Council Minutes 2004

Council Minutes 12/15/04

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VILLAGE OF GRANVILLE
COUNCIL MINUTES
December 15, 2004

CALL TO ORDER (by Mayor Robertson at 7:32 pm)

PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE

ROLL CALL

   Those responding to the roll call were,
Councilmembers Barsky, Hartfield, OKeefe, Herman, Main,
Vice Mayor Lucier, and Mayor Robertson; Manager Hickman
and Law Director Crites. Motion carried.

APPROVAL OF AGENDA (7:32 pm)

   Mayor Robertson moved to amend the agenda and
report on a meeting in regards to Kendal after Citizens
Comments. Councilmember OKeefe moved to discuss
happenings at the Granville Recreation Commissions
meeting under Committee Reports. Councilmember Main
moved to discuss items in regards to the Granville
Foundation under Committee Reports. Vice Mayor Lucier
moved to accept the agenda as amended, seconded by
Councilmember Herman. Motion carried.

CITIZENS COMMENTS (7:35 pm)
Catherine Buxton, 371 Glyn Tawel, stated that she would
like to get more information in regards to the possible
smoking Ordinance. Mayor Robertson stated that the law
directors of Newark and Heath have met, and she hopes
Granvilles Law Director can meet with them sometime
soon. Law Director Crites stated that he has prepared a
draft Ordinance. Councilmember Main stated that Council
will likely talk about this issue soon, but not until the
Law Director has finished his part. Ms. Buxton asked if
Council would be revising Mr. Reeses Ordinance. (It
should be noted that Gib Reese attended an earlier intra-
community meeting including Granville, Heath, and
Newark.) Mayor Robertson indicated that there are some
parts of the Ordinance that they disagree with, and that
Mr. Reeses Ordinance currently states that entities
other than police could enforce. She stated that their
Ordinance would differ from his Ordinance and allow no
other entities to enforce, and that the enforcement date
would be the same for all three communities. Mayor
Robertson stated that the first possible public hearing
for such an Ordinance wouldnt be before the January 19th
Council meeting. Council discussed the Ordinance going to
a committee. An ad hoc committee was formed to discuss
the smoking Ordinance, members included Councilmember
Main, Councilmember OKeefe, and Mayor Robertson.
Councilmember Main added that a public hearing could be
held off until February, depending on the introduction
date of the Ordinance and when the ad hoc committee can
meet to discuss it.

Dan Bellman, 320 North Pearl Street, spoke to Council in
regards to Kendals sewer line construction costs. He
stated that it is his concern to factually set out the
framework on this issue, regardless of what Council
decides to do. Mr. Bellman distributed a handout to
Council.

Mr. Bellman stated that his greatest concern is the idea
of having any money coming from the schools to fund these
kinds of projects, and the precedent that would set. He
stated that a second concern would be how Council would
appear. He stated that by framing this accurately and
correctly this will put you (Council) in the best light.
Mr. Bellman also stated that if the information is framed
correctly Council may find that there isnt a problem for
any government body to figure out. Mr. Bellman stated
that the contract states the Law Director and Manager need
to see the costs incurred by Kendal.

The following is a copy of Mr. Bellmans handout and items
he went over with Council:

When the sewer line construction costs were discussed in
the Village Council meeting of July 10, 2003, four options
for sewer line construction costs were discussed. The
estimated prices for the sewer line ranged from $618.405
to $898,095.

Today, Kendal states that its actual sewer line
construction costs are about $1 million.

Kendal Sewer Line Construction Costs

1.   $400,000 of Sewer Line Construction Costs: Kendal
agrees that it should pay at least $400,000 of the sewer
line costs based on original construction estimates.
2.   $225,000 of Sewer Line Construction Costs: Under
Kendals sewer contract, the Village agreed to reimburse
Kendal $225,000 of Kendals costs via a sewer line
surcharge fee.
3.   $375,000 of Sewer Line Construction Costs:
Regarding the remaining $375,000 in sewer construction
costs:
"   Kendal bears the risk of any construction costs
over $625,000 under its sewer contract with the Village.
"   Nevertheless, if the Township and Kendal so
request, the Village will look at these $375,000 in costs
and provide a position regarding who should bear these
costs. In doing so, the Village will take another look at
the $225,000 in sewer line surcharge fees, as well as what
Kendals share of this additional amount should be.
"   Before the Village Council can review this issue,
Kendal first must provide an accounting of its
construction costs to the Village Manager, as required by
its sewer contract.

Mayor Robertson closed public comments at 7:45 pm.

Report of Kendal Agreement Discussion Sewer Line
Construction Costs

Mayor Robertson stated that she and Manager Hickman met
with Trustee Jim Havens. She stated that the original
question posed to Council was framed to ask if there was a
willingness to renegotiate the over-sizing agreement.
Mayor Robertson stated that she asked Mr. Havens to rename
the agreement a Reimbursement Agreement, and that Mr.
Havens agreed to do this. Mayor Robertson stated that
they didnt talk much about the content, and they didnt
discuss matters brought up by Mr. Bellman during Citizens
Comments. She stated that Mr. Havens indicated that the
Township is in the midst of doing diligence and asking
questions like - Is someone negligent? She stated that
the Township has collected contracts and requested bid
estimates. Mayor Robertson stated that the ultimate
decision made at the meeting was to go back to their
respective groups - make a report - and request authority
from the group to initiate in discussions.

Councilmember OKeefe asked where is the impetus coming
from for us (Council) to be part of this decision. Mayor
Robertson stated that Kendal has asked the school district
and Township to do something, and the request to have
Council listen is coming from the school district and
Township.

Councilmember Herman asked if the school is requesting
that this issue be discussed, and are they taking a
position? Mayor Robertson stated that the school
districts position is that they do not want a TIF.
Councilmember Herman asked what is it that they wish to
contribute to the process or to the discussion beyond the
fact that they do not want a TIF? Mayor Robertson stated
that a lot of the content was not discussed, but rather
should the three mentioned entities enter into some type
of discussion that addresses Kendals request for a TIF.
Councilmember Herman stated that this is a result of their
cost overrun.

Mayor Robertson presented the following timeline to
Council:
January 11 Collection of Data
January 19 Meeting to Review Data with Trustee Havens,
Manager Hickman and
Mayor Robertson
January 25 Meeting with Trustee Havens, Lyn Straker,
Mayor Robertson,
Manager Hickman

Mayor Robertson stated that at one time it was stated that
there was some urgency to have this issue looked at by the
end of December, and that this is no longer the case.

Mayor Robertson stated that the question she would like
answered by Council is if they want to enter into
discussions. She stated that her personal position is
that they should try to understand what happened and
listen to the data. She stated that there is no reason to
rush into a decision, and that there is a good two months
to generate a position by Council. She stated that she
doesnt have a position about what Council ought to do,
just some general ideas about things at this point. She
stated that she is willing to say there is more to learn
and we ought to be learning it. She stated that she also
thinks this is an excellent opportunity to work with the
Township and school district. Mayor Robertson stated that
we (Council) are at times cast as being opposed to working
with the Township and school district, even though she
believes they have never been opposed to this.

Councilmember Herman stated that Council signed an
agreement with Kendal and that the Village signs
agreements like this a lot. He asked what role the
Village would have if there are cost overruns incurred in
other projects, and who picks up the tab? Manager Hickman
stated that mostly the contractor would pick up these
costs, unless there is something extraordinary, and there
could be some consideration with certain types of
situations.

Councilmember Herman asked what would happen if the
Village bought a $24,000 car and the dealership would say
that their costs are now higher, what would happen?
Manager Hickman stated that they wouldnt be buying that
car if more money had to be spent. Mayor Robertson stated
that she understood the point Councilmember Herman was
trying to make.

Councilmember Hartfield stated that she had heard the
word negligent brought up a couple of times, and she
asked if there is any negligence tied to the Village in
any way. Manager Hickman stated no.

Councilmember Main asked Mr. Bellman what he was referring
to when stating Council should have their Law Director
look into the contract about potential negligence. Mr.
Bellman stated that the contract requires Kendal to
disclose all of their costs to the Village Manager and he
then has thirty days to assess. Mr. Bellman stated that
he believed the Village Manager would then ask the Law
Director if he sees any reason for the cost overrun and is
anyone liable, rather than Kendal.

Vice Mayor Lucier stated that what strikes her about this
whole situation is that Kendal has not asked the Village
to look into this matter, and until they do Council
shouldnt be involved. Vice Mayor Lucier stated that as
far as a public relations view its nice to talk with the
school district and Trustees, but in this case we arent
being asked, but still getting involved. She stated that
the specific request came to the Township Trustees, and
that she could see it as being appropriate to have the Law
Director and Manager get involved. Vice Mayor Lucier
stated that she cant see what Councils role would be,
other than appearing to be cooperative. Manager Hickman
acknowledged that he has not been contacted by Kendal.

Councilmember Barsky stated that given the history of the
community and the role that the Council plays and the fact
that we are trying to look at economic development in
addition to residential development here - If we were in a
different position and we wanted to go to the Township
Trustees and there are times perhaps in the past when we
have wanted to have discussions with them and weve been
rebuffed - She stated that she doesnt feel at this time
it would be appropriate to take the position mentioned by
Vice Mayor Lucier.
She stated that there are logical reasons that Council
should not get involved, but this is not a logical
decision.

Vice Mayor Lucier stated that something else that could be
done is to pass a Resolution to support the school board,
stating that we agree with them that it is not appropriate
to have tax reduction that is detrimental to the schools,
and that we hope that Township Trustees will take this
into account. She stated that we are more than willing to
provide any kind of information that will help them.

Councilmember OKeefe asked if Council is being asked to
help pay for the cost overrun. Mayor Robertson stated
that Council has not been asked to do this, and that she
is not prepared to change that agreement. She stated that
it would of coarse take this body (Council) to offer to
pay for the cost overrun or not pay for it. Mayor
Robertson stated that she is only prepared to go and
listen and learn understand and support essentially, and
she feels this is what Council has been asked to do at
this time.

Councilmember OKeefe asked how Council could help. Mayor
Robertson stated that abiding by the agreement is a help
in some way.

Councilmember Herman stated that he feels that if as
Mayor, Mayor Robertson wanted to talk with them about
this, he thinks that would be wonderful. He stated that
it is always nice to be cooperative and listen to people.
He stated that he doesnt feel there is any specific
action Council should take at this point as far as
endorsing or not endorsing.

Mayor Robertson stated that she would like to have
Councils support in regards to entering into a discussion,
and she is not asking for support to argue a certain way.
She stated that her role would be to simply bring back to
Council what is going on.

Councilmember Main stated that he would support this.

Councilmember OKeefe asked if Council would take a
position, and Mayor Robertson stated no. Mayor Robertson
stated that the possibility does exist that there is
relevant data that Council is not aware of. She stated
that she is not saying there is relative data, but the
possibility does exist.

Councilmember Hartfield stated she would be curious to see
what data the Township has.

Councilmember Herman stated that it is his opinion that
listening is fine, but he would be against investing any
Village resources to do anything on this. He went on to
say that he is not convinced this is an issue for
Council.

Councilmember Barsky stated that they arent asking for
that right now.

Vice Mayor Lucier stated that Kendal has a problem before
them and they have decided to go to the Township Trustees
and ask for a TIF.

Mayor Robertson stated that the Township is in a difficult
position and that she would like to see Council support
them. She stated that being supportive can take all kinds
of character.

Mr. Bellman suggested that Council may want to go through
each bulleted item on the handout he provided and see if
they agree or disagree. He stated that this could
gravitate Council into the position they want to take on
this matter.

Mayor Robertson stated that her willingness is to attend
and learn and report back to Council.

PUBLIC HEARING (8:07 pm)
   Ordinance No. 30-04, An Ordinance To Make
Appropriations For Current Expenses And Other Expenditures
Of The Village Of Granville, State Of Ohio, During The
Fiscal Year Ending December 31, 2005.

   No one appeared to speak for or against Ordinance
No. 30-04. Mayor Robertson closed the public hearing.

EXECUTIVE SESSION
Pursuant to ORC 121.22(G)(2) To consider the purchase,
or sale of property&&... (118 South Main Street).

   Councilmember Barsky moved to enter into Executive
Session, Seconded by Councilmember Herman.

Roll call: Hartfield, Herman, Lucier, Barsky, Main,
Robertson, OKeefe, Hartfield (7, 0)

Time in: 8:10 pm.

Councilmember Herman moved exit out of Executive Session
and return to Regular Session. Seconded by Councilmember
Barsky.

Time out: 8:34 pm.

Roll call: OKeefe, Robertson, Main, Barsky, Lucier,
Herman, Hartfield (7, 0)

NEW BUSINESS (8:35 pm)

Ordinance No. 32-04, An Ordinance Authorizing the Village
of Granville to Enter into a Settlement Agreement and
Mutual Release with Sensibilities, Inc., and St.Lukes
Episcopal Church was introduced by Councilmember Main.
Second by Councilmember Hartfield.

Mayor Robertson announced that the public hearing for
Ordinance No. 32-004 will be held on January 5, 2005.

OLD BUSINESS
   Ordinance No. 30-04, An Ordinance To Make
Appropriations For Current Expenses And Other Expenditures
Of The Village Of Granville, State Of Ohio, During The
Fiscal Year Ending December 31, 2005 was re-introduced by
Councilmember Herman. Second by Councilmember OKeefe.

Discussion: Councilmember Herman stated that a few
amendments were sent to Council after discussions in EFP
Committee.

Councilmember Herman stated that the committee is
recommending a new line item called Business Development
Fund to be funded at a level of $12,000, and that a
primary amount of the money would come from the
hotel/motel tax. He stated that this would be monies that
could be used with the Chamber of Commerce relative to
projects promoting business development. Councilmember
Herman stated that Manager Hickman has indicated that this
idea is doable.

Councilmember OKeefe asked if the funds could be used for
directional signs. Councilmember Herman stated yes.
Manager Hickman stated that he believed the budget
specifically depicted the money being spent for
directional signs and a kiosk. Vice Mayor Lucier stated
that she didnt think their committee had fully signed on
to this idea. Councilmember Hartfield indicated that
there were still some questions in regards to directional
signs. Manager Hickman asked if additional monies needed
to be put into the fund to pay for the signage and kiosk
if the committee agrees on the expenditure. Councilmember
Herman stated that this issue would need to be further
discussed in committee and that there is no reason to
create an account that has already been spent.

Councilmember Herman stated that there is also a line item
for Law Enforcement Education Fund. He stated that
previously there have been discussions about alcohol usage
in the schools, and Council may want to consider using
monies from this fund on projects to address alcohol
related issues. He went on to say that the money in this
fund has not been used in the past, and that the money
comes partly from DUI fines.

Councilmember OKeefe inquired on the line item for street
lighting; She asked if any part of this money could be
used for new lighting, or just replacement lighting.
Manager Hickman indicated that he would pull money from
this fund for new lights if need be.

Councilmember OKeefe asked what the Strategic Land
Reserve Fund is used for and she stated that there is no
money in this fund. Manager Hickman stated that this fund
is not used to purchase green space properties, and that
the money comes from the General Revenue Fund. He stated
that an example of land purchased with money from this
fund would be a piece of land by the water plant costing
around $5,000. Councilmember OKeefe asked if land in the
Township could be purchased with money from this fund.
Manager Hickman stated yes if it is considered to be a
strategic land purchase.

Councilmember OKeefe stated that the Granville
Fellowship has received $6,000 each year for a number of
years, and that this year they are looking at a deficit.
Council asked the amount of their rent, and it was stated
that this amount is $1,200 per year. Councilmember OKeefe
stated that she wished to plant a seed now to provide
additional funding in this area for the future. Mayor
Robertson stated that perhaps the board of Granville
Fellowship could meet with some committees.

Roll call vote: Barsky, Hartfield, Herman, Lucier, Main,
OKeefe, Robertson (7-0)

Ordinance No. 28-04 is adopted.

REVIEW OF MINUTES
Regularly Scheduled Meeting of December 1, 2004
Councilmember OKeefe moved to accept the minutes as
amended; seconded by Councilmember Herman. Motion
carried, 7-0.

MAYORS COURT REPORT November
The Mayors Court Report for the month of November was
presented for review.

Discussion: Councilmember Hartfield stated that several
neighbors on Prospect and Elm streets have commented to
her about the parking tickets being issued for parking
inches away from a curb. It was stated that the legal
distance is fifteen inches. Manager Hickman stated that
he would further discuss this with Councilmember
Hartfield.

Vice Mayor Lucier discussed street sweeping, and if there
has ever been discussions to have a schedule to have the
edge of the street open for street sweeping. Manager
Hickman stated that most of the time street sweeping is
done in early morning hours and that it is necessary to
make sure that this is publicized so people are aware.

Councilmember Barsky moved to accept the November reports;
seconded by Councilmember OKeefe. Motion carried 7-0.

Mayor Robertson instructed the report be filed with the
Clerk. A copy of the said report is included as part of
these Minutes.

MANAGERS REPORT November
The Managers Report for the month of November was
presented for review.

Discussion: None.

Councilmember Barsky moved to accept the November report;
seconded by Councilmember OKeefe. Motion carried 7-0.

   Mayor Robertson instructed the report be filed
with the Clerk. A copy of said report is included as part
of these Minutes.

COMMITTEE REPORTS

Economic, Finance, Personnel Committee (EFP) Hartfield,
Herman, Lucier
Councilmember Herman stated that the committee discussed
the budget. Mayor Robertson thanked the committee for the
good job and she stated that the report was good as well.

Councilmember Barsky stated that she had a question that
would entail the budget and LSSU committee in regards to
roundabouts. She stated that there were discussions at
one time about having a workshop/seminar done in regards
to roundabouts and that this workshop/seminar could
possibly help pay for some of the engineering costs
related to them. Manager Hickman stated that this could
be looked at again. It was stated that Trudy Knox
volunteered to help organize the workshop/seminar.
Councilmember Barsky stated that whether or not there is a
workshop or consultant used, she suggests a relatively
short timeframe. It was stated that there is a $30,000
allocation in the budget. Councilmember Herman and
Councilmember OKeefe stated that they would support the
comments of Councilmember Barsky.

Light, Safety, Sts/Sidewalks, Utility Committee (LSSU)
Lucier, Hartfield, Main
Councilmember Hartfield stated that the committee will
meet on Friday, December 17th AM.

Planning Commission OKeefe
Councilmember OKeefe stated that a property on West
Broadway was approved for remodeling, but denied an
occupancy permit due to a mis-communication. She stated
that the Planning Commission met with owner of the
property and decided to grant approval. Council asked what
happened with this situation. Manager Hickman stated that
the work done is a quality improvement to what was there.
He stated that the improvements that were done by the home
owner were not exactly the same as what he told the
Village Planner. Manager Hickman stated that the first
floor windows were shorter than what were approved.
Councilmember Herman acknowledged that he had seen the
windows that were installed, and thought that they werent
what should have been approved according to the Village
code. Manager Hickman stated that the permit and what
actually happened in the remodeling were different. He
stated that later the Planning Commission looked at the
total improvements that were done and decided to approve
the permit. Manager Hickman stated that there was a
communication break down with the Planner thinking one
thing and the home owner doing another. He stated that
the staff has not had the time to keep up on what is
actually happening, and if it matches the approval on the
permit. Manager Hickman stated that a part-time person is
needed to help in this area. Council discussed what
district the home on West Broadway was in; It was stated
that it is in the Transportation Corridor District.
Councilmember Barsky stated that the Village constantly
gets into positions where someone does something that
wasnt approved, and the Planning Commission goes ahead
and approves it. She stated that with the situation on
West Broadway, she is sorry the home owner spent the money
for the improvements that were not approved, and she is
sorry that the Planning Commission gave the ok. Council
stated that they had asked for an Ordinance to move
towards having everything in the Village considered under
the Architectural Review Area guidelines. Manager
Hickman indicated that he would work with Law Director
Crites on this matter. Councilmember Main stated that
there should be two public hearings on a large scale
change like this.

Councilmember OKeefe stated that a sidewalk (sandwich
board) sign for Green Velvet was tabled. She stated that
the Law Director is going to look at legality issues
because the sign advertises two businesses on it, and
there is nothing in the code to address this.
Councilmember OKeefe also stated that she thought that
there were going to be limits put on these types of
signs. Manager Hickman stated that directional signs
could address this issue if they are approved. Law
Director Crites agreed to look at this issue.

Planning & Zoning Committee (P&Z) Barsky, OKeefe,
Robertson
Councilmember Barsky stated that the committee discussed
expanding the historic area boundaries so that
architectural review guidelines extend throughout the
original Village. She stated that it would be beneficial
to do something soon January 5 or 19. She stated that
the committee also discussed permitted and prohibited
businesses for a proposed JEDD, and that Granville
Township zoning prohibits certain uses throughout the
Township. She stated that the committee requested that
Law Director Crites review the zoning pages and determine
whether they apply to the Village as part of the Township
and whether the provisions are suitable. Councilmember
Barsky stated that the committee discussed and passed on
the Thoroughfare Plan, Traffic Impact Study, and Access
Management Plan. She stated that these matters were
passed on to the County Engineer for feedback.
Councilmember Barsky stated that the committee will meet
again on December 21 to review the JEDD document. She
stated that Township zoning regulations are available on
the website if anyone is interested in seeing them.

Senior Committee Robertson
Mayor Robertson stated that the committee met with
National Church Residences and Keith Myers was also at the
meeting. She stated that National Church Residences
looked at several potential sites, and they focused on the
Bryn Du property. She stated that they have since
dissuaded them from looking at this property, one reason
being that Keith Myers felt that it was not an appropriate
location. Mayor Robertson stated that Mr. Myers felt the
proposed buildings would overpower the existing setting,
and that she too was a bit surprised of the scale and size
presented. Mayor Robertson stated that National Church
Residences will continue to look for an alternate
location.

Union Cemetery Main
No Report.

Granville Recreation Commission OKeefe
Councilmember OKeefe stated that the commission has
received approval from the Township to have a 1 mil levy
on the May ballot. She stated that the .5 mil levy will
be discontinued if the 1 mil if approved. Councilmember
OKeefe stated that the members of the Granville Recreation
Commission are a dynamic group of people. She stated that
they held a dinner for 120 senior citizens at St. Edwards
Catholic Church, and that it was a very nice event.

Councilmember OKeefe stated that the commission is working
on planning events for the Bicentennial.

Councilmember OKeefe stated that Granville Rec Commission
is also looking into possibly acquiring space at the Bryn
Du Mansion.

Granville Foundation - Main
Councilmember Main wanted to remind everyone to keep the
Granville Foundation in mind for end of the year
charitable giving.

OTHER COUNCIL MATTERS
Councilmember Barsky stated that Council needs to look at
the direction of Strategic Planning Steve Millett.

Councilmember Barsky stated that she met with Marcia
Phelps, Rob Klinger, and Manager Hickman to discuss
potential uses for the Owens Corning property. She stated
that they are working on a master plan for multi use kinds
of things.   She stated that there was no immediate desire
to disband the property. Councilmember Barsky stated that
the next step would be to meet with ODOT because no one is
clear what route 161 will actually take. She stated that
it was decided that Owens Corning would initially go to
ODOT, with the others on board. Councilmember Barsky
stated that there was also talk of sharing the JEDD
document. Councilmember Barsky stated that some people
were pushing to make the property residential, and that
these people were surprised to see everyone else not
supporting it to be residential. When asked who the
people pushing residential were, Councilmember Barsky
stated mostly consultants from Owens Corning.
Councilmember Barsky stated that Jim Eckerd, from Owens
Corning, is interested in thinking outside the box and he
wants to see something located at the property that is
appreciated by the community.

Vice Mayor Lucier stated that this issue raises the
proposal she and Mayor Robertson had previously mentioned
in regards to having a study done by Randy Gross.
Councilmember Barsky stated that she was glad Vice Mayor
Lucier brought this up, and that she wanted to suggest
that Council bite the bullet and pay to have this study
done. Council had previously asked the school board,
Township, and the Chamber of Commerce if they would be
willing to participate in contributing for such a study.

Councilmember Hartfield stated that an email was sent out
by Pat Moller in regards to this matter.

Councilmember Barsky stated that she understood there to
be limited funds by the Chamber, the Township didnt think
they could spend money in this way, and that there were
initial reservations by the school board.

Council agreed to pay for the expenditure to hire Randy
Gross to compile data and do a study. Mayor Robertson
asked if an Ordinance was needed. Manager Hickman stated
that he can prepare a requisition from the quote provided
by Mr. Gross, and he could have this ready by January 2.
Mayor Robertson asked if there was unanimous agreement
amongst Council. There was no disagreement.
Councilmember Barsky asked to have a copy of the proposal
when complete. Councilmember Hartfield stated that Ms.
Moller, from the Chamber of Commerce, should be contacted
on what Council has decided to do in regards to this
matter. Mayor Robertson agreed to contact Ms. Moller.

Vice Mayor Lucier stated that she will be attending
magistrate training.

ADJOURNMENT (9:36 pm)
   Councilmember Herman moved to adjourn. Second by
Councilmember Main. Motion carried, 7-0. Meeting
adjourned.



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Council Minutes 12/1/04

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VILLAGE OF GRANVILLE
COUNCIL MINUTES
December 1, 2004

CALL TO ORDER (by Mayor Robertson at 7:31 pm)

PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE

ROLL CALL
   Those responding to the roll call were
Councilmembers Hartfield, Herman, Main, OKeefe, Vice
Mayor Lucier and Mayor Robertson. Assistant Law Director
Gorry and Manager Hickman.

   Councilmember Hartfield moved to excuse
Councilmember Barsky. Second by Vice Mayor Lucier.

APPROVAL OF AGENDA (7:32 pm)
   Councilmember Herman moved to accept the agenda.
Second by Councilmember OKeefe.

CITIZENS COMMENTS (7:33 pm)
Dan Bellman, 321 North Pearl Street, stated that he wished
to make sure that the facts and record are set straight in
regards to Kendal and the cost overrun for a sewer
connection. Mr. Bellman stated that regardless of what
part Council intends to take on this matter, he wishes for
them to have all of the information in front of them. Mr.
Bellman distributed minutes from a July 10, 2003 Council
meeting which discuss four options for the sewer
construction costs between Kendal and the Village of
Granville. Mr. Bellman read aloud the following handout,
which was also distributed to Council:

When the sewer line construction costs were discussed in
the Village Council meeting of July 10, 2003, four options
for sewer line construction costs were discussed. The
estimated prices for the sewer line ranged from $618,405
to $898,095.

Today, Kendal states that its actual sewer construction
costs are about $1 million.

1.   $400,000 of Sewer Line Construction Costs: Kendal
agrees that it should pay at least $400,000 of the sewer
line costs based on original construction estimates.
2.   $225,000 of Sewer Line Construction Costs: Under
Kendals sewer contract, the Village agreed to reimburse
Kendal up to $225,000 of Kendals costs via a sewer line
surcharge fee.
3.   $375,000 of Sewer Line Construction Costs:
Regarding the remaining $375,000 in sewer construction
costs:
"   Kendal bears the risk of any construction costs
over $625,000 under its sewer contract with the Village.
"   Before the Village Council can review this issue,
Kendal first must provide an accounting of its
construction costs to the Village Manager, as required by
its sewer contract.

Mr. Bellman asked if Manager Hickman has received any
information in regards to costs. Manager Hickman stated
no. Mr. Bellman stated that it is up to Council if they
choose to look at this issue, and that the contract
requires Kendal to provide costs to Manager Hickman.

Mayor Robertson stated that she has emailed Council that
she will be meeting with the Township Trustees and School
District representatives on Monday in regards to this
issue.

Doug Wagner, 300 Pinehurst Drive, stated that he is a
member of Centenary United Methodist Church, but he is not
there this evening representing them. He stated that he
is speaking as a citizen of Granville. Mr. Wagner stated
that it appears to him that the whole issue with Brews
Café and the liquor licenses has seemed to have lost
perspective. Mr. Wagner stated that the church has asked
Council to take a position at the upcoming liquor
hearing. He stated that the Village really needs to look
at whether or not they want bars one, two, and three in
the downtown area. He stated that he would like to see
Council take a position at this meeting, and not remain
neutral. Mr. Wagner stated that it has not been announced
as to what will go in the old Brews location when they
move to 116 East Broadway. He asked Council What do we
as a Village want to do? Mr. Wagner stated that it is
his belief that there would be a lack in judgment by
Council if they chose not to take a position at the liquor
hearing. He later stated that it seems this is a one
shot deal.

Mayor Robertson stated that Councils original decision to
ask for a hearing was made before Council discussed
anything in regards to what they might speak about at the
hearing. She stated that the request to ask for a hearing
had to be made to give Council standing to say something,
if anything. Mayor Robertson stated that Council will
discuss and decide tonight what position they will take at
the liquor hearing. It was stated that two hearings would
be on December 10th.

Mayor Robertson closed citizens comments at 7:46 pm.

PUBLIC HEARING
2005 Proposed Granville Village Budget

Dan Bellman stated that he hopes to see resolution to the
bike path being connected to Fern Hill. Manager Hickman
stated that this is close to happening.

NEW BUSINESS (7:47 pm)
   Resolution No. 04-66, To Award The Bid For The
Purchase Of Water Treatment Chemicals was introduced by
Councilmember OKeefe. Second by Councilmember Main.

Discussion: None.

Motion Carried. Resolution No. 04-66 is adopted.

   Resolution No. 04-67, A Resolution Authorizing The
Village Manager To Enter Into Lease Negotiations With
Brews & Blues Holdings, LLC And Village Brewing Company,
LTD For The Property Located At 116 East Broadway Street,
Granville, Ohio was introduced by Councilmember Herman.
Second by Councilmember Main.

Discussion: None.

Motion Carried. Resolution No. 04-67 is adopted.

   Resolution No. 04-68, A Resolution Of Support To
Honor The Two Existing Points Of Access Off Of Newark-
Granville Road To The Park National Bank Trust Parcel was
introduced by Vice Mayor Lucier. Second by Councilmember
OKeefe.

Discussion: Council stated that this Resolution relates to
Dan Bellmans comments during the public hearing for the
budget, and it is in regards to connecting the bike path
to Fern Hill. Councilmember Herman asked if the
Resolution speaks to the access point configurations, such
as making them larger or smaller. Manager Hickman
indicated that the access points are part of a PUD. Vice
Mayor Lucier stated that this Resolution honors the fact
that there are two existing access points already on the
property.

Motion Carried. Resolution No. 04-68 is adopted.

   Ordinance No. 30-04, An Ordinance To Make
Appropriations For Current Expenses And Other Expenditures
Of The Village Of Granville, State Of Ohio, During The
Fiscal Year Ending December 31, 2005 was introduced by
Councilmember Herman. Second by Vice Mayor Lucier.

   Mayor Robertson set the public hearing on
Ordinance No. 30-04 for December 15, 2004.

   Ordinance No. 31-04, An Ordinance Providing For
The Issuance Of $1,354,250 Of Notes By The Village Of
Granville, Ohio, In Anticipation Of The Issuance Of Bonds
For The Purpose Of Paying Part Of The Cost Of Acquiring
The Mansion Building Property Located At 537 Jones Road
For Village Purposes, And Declaring An Emergency was
introduced by Councilmember OKeefe. Second by
Councilmember Hartfield.

Discussion: Molly Roberts was present to answer any
questions posed by Council. Ms. Roberts stated that this
is a third renewal. She stated that $145,000 in principle
has been paid. Ms. Roberts stated that this is a one year
issuance until the Village can have a permanent debt
structure in place, which she hopes to be next year. Ms.
Roberts stated that the one year 2.34% interest rate was
through Fifth Third Bank.

Councilmember Main moved to declare Ordinance No. 31-04 as
an Emergency. Second by Councilmember OKeefe.

   Roll call vote on Emergency:   Herman, Main,
OKeefe, Lucier, Robertson, Hartfield. (6-0)

   Roll call vote on Ordinance: Main, OKeefe,
Lucier, Robertson, Hartfield, Herman. (6-0)

Ordinance No. 31-04 is adopted.

OLD BUSINESS
Appeal Hearing Decision (447 W. College Street)

Councilmember Main stated that he wished to recluse
himself from the hearing and decision.

Manager Hickman stated that he previously spoke with Law
Director Crites who indicated that he would like to see a
decision made by Council, and not a Remand. Manager
Hickman stated that Law Director Crites stated that he
would deal with the issue at the level of Common Pleas
Court if Council overturns the BZBA recommendation.

Councilmember Herman asked for Assistant Law Director
Gorry to give an overview. Mr. Gorry stated that Council
(in this matter) is acting as a legislative body. He
stated that the BZBA was bound by Ordinances when making
their decision. Mr. Gorry stated that Council could
Affirm the BZBA decision or Reverse, Revoke, or Remand the
decision for further consideration by the BZBA.

Councilmember OKeefe asked if the variance is asking for
50% of the setback? Mr. Gorry stated that the variance
would not be for all of the setback, just a specific
part. Councilmember OKeefe asked if the existing deck
lies on the setback, and is there any bearing on this?
Mr. Gorry stated that there is no bearing on the issue
before Council in regards to this matter.

Councilmember Herman stated that he had some difficulty
with the logic by the BZBA for determining that Criterion
(a) was not applicable. Criterion (a) stated That
special circumstances or conditions exist which are
peculiar to the land or structure(s) involved and which
are not applicable to other lands or structures in the
same zoning districts.

Councilmember Herman stated that Council received
testimony during the hearing that seemed to be at odds
with Criterion (d). The testimony Councilmember Herman is
referring to is from Pat Davis. Criterion (d)
states That the grant of the variance will not confer on
the applicant any undue privilege that is denied by this
Ordinance to other lands or structures in the same zoning
district.

Councilmember Hartfield stated that if Council is going
to hang a hat on this (pertaining to testimony by the
Daviss for not receiving a variance) they should be sure
what is on file with the Village offices. She asked if
this application request has ever been researched.
Village Planner, Chris Strayer, stated that he would pull
the file.

Mr. Gorry stated that it has been acknowledged that there
is some confusion on the finding of fact for Criterion
(a). Mr. Gorry stated that legally speaking, there are
peculiar circumstances that exist in regards to the
land. Mr. Gorry stated that Mr. Strayer has indicated
that the BZBA may not have addressed this, and it is a
problem and an issue. Mr. Gorry stated that as far as
Criterion (d) and the Daviss testimony; legally speaking
he sees a difference.

Council inquired about the Village regulations for the
setback. Mr. Gorry stated that the zoning code follows 40
foot setbacks, even on a diagonal.

Vice Mayor Lucier stated that if someone were to build a
rectangular house on a slanted lot, it wouldnt work
without a setback. Mr. Gorry agreed.

Mr. Strayer returned with the Daviss file. The Daviss
had submitted an application in 1999 to build a garage in
the exact same footprint as an existing garage at the same
location. Mr. Strayer stated that the application was
approved. Council asked if the Daviss were denied the
chance to make their garage larger. Mr. Strayer stated
that there was no application on file to make the garage
larger.

Mayor Robertson stated that she wondered about item (3) on
the non-exclusive seven point test used to determine
whether a property owner seeking an area variance has
encountered practical difficulties in the use of his
property. Item (3) states: Whether the essential
character of the neighborhood would be substantially
altered or whether adjoining properties would suffer a
substantial detriment as a result of the variance.

Vice Mayor Lucier stated that it is only the variance that
Council can consider.

Mayor Robertson stated that if the variance isnt granted,
then the structure cannot be as big.

It was stated that the applicant has stated on record that
he plans to build the addition with or without the
variance.

Vice Mayor Lucier made a motion to reverse the BZBAs
approval for the variance. Second by Councilmember
OKeefe.

Mayor Robertson stated that the motion is open for
discussion.

Councilmember Hartfield stated that she is concerned with
some of the holes in the process and she hopes that were
not looking for a long way around. She stated that this
would be similar to the Milner Road situation.

Vice Mayor Lucier stated that her motion is not due to
concern for the size of the structure.

It was stated that a majority of the vote was needed to
overturn the BZBA decision.

A roll call vote was taken on Vice Mayor Luciers motion
to overturn the BZBAs approval for a variance:

Roll call: OKeefe (yes), Robertson (yes), Herman (yes),
Hartfield (no), Lucier (yes). (4, 1)

The BZBA decision to approve the variance is Reversed.

Budget Presentation
Manager Hickman, Molly Roberts, Chris Strayer, and Terry
Hopkins were all present to answer any questions in
regards to the budget.

The following items were reviewed and discussed:

Manager Hickman discussed street lighting.

It was stated that line items in the budget would
appropriate the following:
$6,000 to Granville Fellowship
$8,000 to Granville Rec Commission
$8,000 to the Trustees to reimburse for mowing costs
$10,000 to Granville Arts Commission

Councilmember Herman asked what has been expended so far
for the Granville Arts Commission. It was stated that a
minimum request of $1000 was submitted.

It was stated that the Bicentennial Commission requested
$23,000 in 2004, and $15,000 in 2003.

A proposed street project for 2005 at Mt. Parnassus and
East Broadway was discussed. Work would be done for
traffic calming and the tree line would become wider.

Mr. Hopkins indicated that they would like to purchase a
new street sweeper. He stated that the old one if fifteen
years old, and picks up ½ the amount as the newer ones.
When asked, Mr. Hopkins stated that a new sweeper would
cost approximately $155,000.

The Newark Granville Road Pathway was discussed. Council
asked for Richard Salvages daughter to be invited to a
ribbon cutting ceremony when this is finished.

Bryn Du Mansion Keith Myers stated that the committee is
requesting funds for the first floor of the Mansion. He
stated that ADA access, restrooms, and a catering kitchen
would be installed with the $250,000 appropriation. He
stated that the appropriation would entail a note. Mr.
Myers stated that if there are to be uses of the facility,
these things must be done. Mayor Robertson asked if the
idea was to have users of the facility pay rent and those
funds would be used to pay back the note used for
construction. Mr. Myers stated yes.

River Road Annexation Line A175 is an appropriation of
$30,000 for a Master Plan Review for River Road. Mr.
Strayer stated that if the possible 100 acres is annexed
on River Road, what do we want to see there, what kind of
development? He stated that a Master Plan would help
determine some of this, as well as how much water and
sewer extension costs would be.   Mr. Strayer stated that
they are looking at a May timeframe. Councilmember Herman
asked about engineering costs. Manager Hickman stated
that he would have other monies to draw from for this
purpose. Councilmember Herman stated that this initiation
for annexation came from property owners, and that there
are some property owners that are not interested.

Roundabouts Mr. Strayer stated that the idea of
Roundabouts came from the Walkability Study. He stated
that a $30,000 appropriation (consulting services) is in
the budget to address if roundabouts could be used as a
feasible alternative to signalizing intersections and are
they something the Village would want. Mr. Strayer stated
that he got a good feeling from the ODOT central office
that roundabouts would be considered as a possibility.
Some recommended areas in the Walkability Study included
the Granville Market entrance, New Burg and North Pearl
Street, and Newark Granville Road and Cherry Valley Road.

Website Mr. Strayer stated that a web designer has been
hired and a new website was created that allows staff to
do more of the maintenance and updates. Mr. Strayer also
stated that in light of the bicentennial, a new website
was needed. Councilmember Herman asked if email access
was available on the site, and he indicated that he would
like his made available. Manager Hickman stated that the
website would be up and running by December 15th, and he
would check with members of Council to see if they would
like their email addresses made available.

OTHER COUNCIL MATTERS

Mayor Robertson stated that at the intra-community meeting
of Mayor Bain of Newark, and Mayor Dupps of Heath, Council
and staff members, there was a handout in regards to
making all three communities smoke free. Mayor Robertson
stated that Gib Reese was there with representatives from
the Lung Association. She stated that each Mayor agreed
to take the smoke free issue to each of their Councils for
further discussion, and possibly have similar Ordinances
drawn up. Mayor Robertson stated that if one particular
community decides to not go smoke free, the agreement was
that the other two communities would also not be smoke
free. She stated that the idea would be to move along at
the same pace as Newark and Heath, and that perhaps our
law director could meet with the other two law directors.
Mayor Robertson asked Council if they are friendly to the
idea of participating. Councilmember Herman stated that
if Council does choose to pursue this, there needs to be a
substantial amount of community input, and Council will
need to ensure that its not a slam dunk either way.
Councilmember Main stated that he likes the idea of having
the three law directors meet, and he would support having
an Ordinance referred to the appropriate committee for
review. Council was unsure of what committee that would
be. Councilmember OKeefe indicated that she was at the
same meeting, and that the other municipalities were
planning on sending an Ordinance to their appropriate
committee.

Liquor Control Board Hearing
Mayor Robertson asked Council what their thoughts were,
and how they would like to participate in the hearing.

Councilmember OKeefe stated that she would like to see
Council participate in the hearing for Newkirk Design
Studio. Council discussed what type of license this is,
and it was determined to be a carryout license. Mr.
McFarland, counsel for Brews Café, stated that although
Mr. Newkirk is a 1/3 owner in Brews Café, Brews Café and
Newkirk Design Studio are not the same entity. Mr.
McFarland stated that he was unsure what the Newkirks
were using the license for, but he believed it would be
used for pre-packaged wine gifts. Mayor Robertson stated
that a liquor license can be held without using it.

Councilmember Herman suggested that Council should address
the two hearings before them for December 10th, and decide
if they want to have a hearing for the Newkirk license at
a later time. Manager Hickman stated that the request for
a hearing for Newkirk Design Studio would have to be made
by December 3rd. Council agreed to address this later in
the meeting.

Councilmember OKeefe stated that she wanted to make sure
she was clear that the D5 permit is for the Brews that
now exists. Mr. Martin stated yes. He indicated that he
wishes to not publicly disclose what his plans are for
this location, but it will not be a college bar.

Councilmember Main stated that he has a problem with every
place that serves alcohol being called a bar. He stated
that he thinks of Brews Café as a restaurant, and that
Council does not need to look at this as a proliferation
of bars up and down the street. Councilmember Main
stated that he doesnt think life will change if Brews
moves to their new location and it is his opinion that
Council doesnt need to support them or oppose them. He
suggested playing a neutral role at the hearing.

Councilmember Main moved to have Council take a neutral
position at the Liquor Control Board hearing in regards to
the transfer of a liquor license to 116 East Broadway.
Second by Councilmember Herman.

Councilmember Herman stated that it was his belief that
Council would need to find a matter of law that disputes
the transfer of the liquor license. He stated that he has
not seen anything to this fact.

Councilmember Hartfield stated that she has looked over
the law as well. She remarked about the D5 permit. Mayor
Robertson indicated that the only discussion that can take
place at this time (due to the motion by Councilmember
Main) has to be related to the transfer of the permit.

Council voted to have Council take a neutral position at
the Liquor Control Board hearing in regards to the
transfer of a liquor license to 116 East Broadway. (6
Yeas, 0 Nays).

Mayor Robertson asked Councilmember Hartfield to continue
her previous remarks. Councilmember Hartfield stated that
she understands Mr. Martin not wanting to divulge his
plans for the old Brews Café location. She asked how
Council makes a determination without knowing what is
going to be in there?

Mr. Martin stated that he has heard Council discuss that
there is a saturation of permits. He asked how many is
too many, and what is Councils idea of the appropriate
number? He stated that if the population reaches 6001,
there will be six new permits issued by the State Liquor
Board.

Mr. Gorry stated that the Village does not have the
ability to say no to the number of permits allotted by the
State.

Doug Wagner stated that this seems to be counter
intuitive. He asked how certain liquor issues get on the
ballot, such as the Buxton Inn. It was stated that each
precinct is given the option to be dry or wet.

Councilmember Herman stated that Mr. Wagner is right, it
is counter intuitive. He stated that he doesnt like it,
but he didnt make the law the legislature did.

Mayor Robertson stated that she does not view Brews Café
as a college bar.

Mr. Martin affirmed that 66% of Brews Cafés sales come
from the sale of food.

Councilmember OKeefe asked if the applicant has to tell
the Liquor Control Board what they plan to use the
premises for? Mr. Gorry was not clear what the applicant
would have to disclose.

Councilmember Hartfield stated that there was a gentleman
representing Centenary United Methodist Church who
indicated that if a municipality participated in the
hearing this would carry more weight on the Liquor
Control Boards decision.

Mayor Robertson posed that question to Council of What
way would we not be neutral on the D5 permit?

Councilmember Main stated that the bottom line is that
there is going to be a D5 permit issued by the State to
somebody in the Village of Granville.

Mayor Robertson stated that it is her understanding that
Brews Café would have to have a terrible track record in
order for Council to protest them being given the permit.
She stated that they dont have a terrible track record.

Councilmember Herman stated that he agrees with
Councilmember Main and Mayor Robertson.

Councilmember OKeefe asked if Council could be in the
position to say that Brews Café has one liquor license,
and we dont think they should be given two more. Mr.
Gorry stated that the liquor board would ask why two more
in the area would cause adverse effects. Councilmember
OKeefe asked if there was a legal basis to challenge based
on concerns with the alcohol problem in the schools. She
stated that representatives from the community have stated
this as a concern. Mr. Gorry stated that he doesnt feel
this is a legal basis to challenge on. Mayor Robertson
stated that Councilmember OKeefes concerns could carry
weight if it were proven that Brews Café was the reason
underage students were abusing alcohol. She went on to
say that this is not the case, and Brews Café has not
been charged with this.

Mr. Wagner inquired about a statement made earlier by Mr.
Martin. He asked if it were true that if the population
reaches 6001 in Granville, would there be six more liquor
permits issued? He stated that he hears the logic of this
Council being that they can do nothing about six new bars
opening up in the downtown. Councilmember Main stated
that Council still controls the planning and zoning.
Councilmember Hartfield stated that she doesnt believe
Council can do nothing about this.

Vice Mayor Lucier made a motion to have Council remain
neutral at the Liquor Control Board hearing for a D5
permit requested by Brews Café. Second by Councilmember
Main.

Council voted to have Council take a neutral position at
the hearing for a D5 permit for Brews Café. (6 Yeas, 0
Nays).

Council discussed the liquor license request for Newkirk
Design Studio.

Councilmember Main stated that more information is needed
from the Newkirks, and he made a motion to have Council
request a hearing. Second by Councilmember OKeefe.

Council voted to request a hearing for the liquor permit
requested for Newkirk Design Studio. (6 Yeas, 0 Nays).

Mr. Martin stated that he has been an owner of Brews Café
since 1996. He stated that the D5 request actually was
made in 1999. Mr. Martin asked why the Broadway Deli
hasnt been mentioned in their attempts to request a
liquor permit. Vice Mayor Lucier stated that no one from
the community has come before Council in regards to
Broadway Deli. Mayor Robertson went on to say that there
were many people from the church who came to Council. She
stated that Council had to put their request for a hearing
in by a particular date if they wanted to have any
standing at the hearing, and Council has decided this
evening not to use that standing.

Council inquired about the Nihisers appreciation
Resolution. Manager Hickman indicated that he would
invite the Nihisers to a Council meeting.

Councilmember Herman noted the report of Second-Floor
Porches and Balconies in Granville done by Dennis
Cauchon. He asked that Mr. Cauchon be thanked for his
work. He stated that Mr. Cauchon is also a national
reporter for USA Today.

REVIEW OF MINUTES
Regularly Scheduled Meeting of November 17, 2004
Councilmember Main moved to accept the minutes as
amended. Second by Vice Mayor Lucier.

COMMITTEE REPORTS
Economic, Finance, Personnel Committee
Councilmember Herman stated that they are discussing a
Master Plan Process with two property owners and a
consultant for possible annexation of River Road.

Light, Safety, Sts/Sidewalks & Utility Committee
The committee met on November 19th. The committee is
looking into additional street lighting on East College
Street. Councilmember OKeefe stated that she has heard
from some that it is dark before Broadway and College
intersect. Manager Hickman stated that he is aware of
this, but it could be some time before this is looked at.
Councilmember Hartfield stated that the committee reviewed
the Thoroughfare Plan. She stated that Doyle Clear has
indicated that a policy and guidelines need to be
determined before traffic calming devices are installed.
The next meeting is scheduled for December 17th. Council
asked for Manager Hickman to see if this meeting is
necessary. Manager Hickman stated that he would get
copies of the Thoroughfare Plan update, Access Management
Plan, and Dublins traffic calming policy to members of
the LSSU committee.

Planning Commission
Council discussed an informational sign presented by Barb
Hammond during the Planning Commission meeting. Manager
Hickman stated that he doesnt not have the money to fund
this at this time. It was stated that the kiosk was never
agreed to be paid by Council.

Planning & Zoning Committee
It was stated that the committee looked at the
Thoroughfare Plan and that Councilmember Barsky was going
to take the findings to the Trustees. Mayor Robertson
asked where the minutes from the meeting were. It was
stated that they may still be in the computer.

Recreation Commission
No Report.

Senior Committee
No Report.

Union Cemetery
No Report.

ADJOURNMENT
   At 10:25 pm, Councilmember Hartfield moved to
adjourn the meeting. Second by Councilmember Herman.
Motion carried, 6-0. Meeting adjourned.


Submitted by Melanie Schott

Council Minutes 11/17/04

GranvilleVillage — Mon, 23 Jan 2012 21:27:31 +0000

VILLAGE OF GRANVILLE
COUNCIL MINUTES
November 17, 2004

CALL TO ORDER (by Mayor Robertson at 7:32 pm)

PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE

ROLL CALL

   Those responding to the roll call were,
Councilmembers Barsky, Hartfield, OKeefe, Herman, Main,
Vice Mayor Lucier, and Mayor Robertson; Manager Hickman
and Law Director Crites. Motion carried.

APPROVAL OF AGENDA (7:32 pm)

   Vice Mayor Lucier moved to amend the agenda and
have a continuance for the scheduled appeal hearing. It
was stated that all parties have not yet received a copy
of the transcript. Second by Councilmember Herman.
      Councilmember Herman moved to accept the agenda
as amended, seconded by Councilmember Barsky. Motion
carried.

CITIZENS COMMENTS (7:33 pm)
Dan Bellman, 320 North Pearl Street, spoke to Council in
regards to Kendal and a sewer contract. It was stated
that the costs of the sewer have gone over what was
originally estimated. He stated that there was a recent
meeting and Trustee Jim Havens presented the question as
to whether or not Council would be willing to look at this
agreement again. Mr. Bellman distributed a handout and
stated that he would like Council to consider giving
Manager Hickman direction to act as stated in his letter.

Mr. Bellman read aloud the following from his handout:
If the Township and Kendal request Village Council to do
so, the Village Council is willing to reevaluate the
figures in Kendals Sanitary Sewer Agreement for the
purpose of re-establishing Kendals fair share and
Kendals Reimbursable Cost under Paragraph C-2 of the
Agreement in light of the current construction cost
figures.


Liquor Permit Holders

Jerry Martin, 115 Briarwood Drive, co-owner of Brews Café
stated that he wanted to address what their intent is in
regards to the move to 116 East Broadway. Mr. Martin
stated that the new location is larger with a full
basement. He stated that they are in need of a new
kitchen and restrooms. Mr. Martin stated that the second
floor would have seating and a semi-private banquet room.
He stated that the proposed balcony on the second floor
would have four tables on it. Mr. Martin stated that
Brews Too would move to the third floor of the new
building. Mr. Martin spoke about a D5 liquor permit that
he had tried to attain some time back, but it was not
available. He stated that it recently became available,
and that he and his partners would be remissive business
men if they didnt try to get it. He stated that it is a
way for them to control their competition.

Councilmember OKeefe asked if Mr. Martin was applying for
two different permits. Mr. Martin stated that if they
dont use the two permits in two different locations they
would have to be turned back in to the state liquor
board. He stated that if they are turned back in someone
else could apply for them.

Mayor Robertson asked what would happen to the existing
Brews restaurant. Mr. Martin stated that he was not sure
and this decision has not yet been decided. He stated
that the lease is up in October and they will then have
the option to renew for a five year extension.

Councilmember Barsky asked if Mr. Martin would have to get
rid of the other permits if the D5 permit is granted. Mr.
Martin stated yes.

Councilmember Herman stated that someone else is in line
that already has an application on file if these permits
are turned back in.

Mr. Martin stated that the D5 permit is now back in play
due to the population estimation in this area.

Steve Barnes, 120 Brennan Drive, stated that he is a six
year resident of Granville and customer of Brews Café.
He stated that he whole-heartedly supports the new
location. Mr. Barnes stated that prior to living in
Granville, he lived in Alexandria, Virginia and he feels
its the type of place Granville should aspire to be. He
stated that there are many outside balconies that dont
present any problems and the architecture is in good
taste.

Mayor Robertson stated that an issue before this Council
is the proposed balcony and the fact that it is on public
property. She stated that the liquor licenses themselves
are under the control of the State Liquor Board, and not
Council. Councilmember Herman stated that on the same
token, if people want to address in a public hearing how
they are feeling about this, given Councils interests in
having a role relative to the upcoming hearing with the
Liquor Board, that they should have the ability to have
that discussion with Council.   Mayor Robertson agreed and
stated that she wanted to make clear who was responsible
for which decisions. She stated that Council wants to
hear from everyone.

Fran Kelly, 79 Spangler Court, stated that she thought
that the existing porch located at 116 East Broadway was
already on public property. She also stated that the
church is partially located on public property. Mayor
Robertson stated that it was not known that the existing
porch at 116 East Broadway was on public property, but
that is has likely been there for at least 100 years. Ms.
Kelly asked if Council would be abstaining from any
discussions with the liquor board in regards to the
church. She stated that she has heard rumors.
Councilmember Hartfield stated that she is not sure what
has been conveyed, and she explained that the church came
before Council and presented some issues that they had and
asked Council to participate as an interested party. She
stated that this does not mean Council will be testifying
against Brews Café. Councilmember Hartfield stated that
nothing has been determined by Council on this matter.
She went on to say that Council does not have any control
over the liquor permits and they can act in two ways at
the hearing - (1) interested party and (2) abstain from
discussions.   Mayor Robertson added that there has been
very little discussion amongst Council in regards to this
matter and no decisions have been made. Mayor Robertson
stated that Council requested a hearing because the notice
had to be turned in by a particular time, and this then
gave Council the option to speak if they desired. She
stated that what Council would say or if they would even
say anything has not been discussed. Mayor Robertson
stated that it is her desire to abstain from any
discussions.

Joel Spahr, 43 North Street, Newark, stated that he is an
employee at Brews Café. He stated that he spends 50 to
60 hours a week at Brews and feels that it is a family
oriented establishment. Mr. Spar stated that in years
past Brews has experienced an 80% decline in customers
when the Denison students are gone. He stated that last
year this was only a 10-15% decline due to their goal to
become more family oriented. Mr. Spar stated that the
restaurant part of Brews closes at 10:00 on weeknights
and 11:00 on weekends. Mr. Spar stated that Brews has
worked hard at making themselves a part of the community
and if they have done something wrong in the past to let
them know and they will try to correct it.
He stated that there is much support for Brews Café
tonight in this room and they are all taxpayers and
members of the community.

Councilmember OKeefe stated that it seems like everyone
wants to be good neighbors and she wonders if there has
been any dialogue between Brews and Centenary United
Methodist Church. Mayor Robertson stated that she could
offer the Council Chambers as a place to hold such a
discussion. Mr. Spar stated that he has not had any
conversations with the church. He stated that once the
balcony became an issue it was like Mardi Gras. He
stated that they are open to talking with the church. Mr.
Martin stated that the dialogue was open until the
transfer request went in. He stated that he has had
conversations with Connie Westbrook and Steve Cramer. He
stated that they discussed the noise upstairs and the
possibility of hearing it from inside the church. Mayor
Robertson stated that she hopes this dialogue can be
renewed.

Pam Cray, 205 Mill Race, asked Council if they could
address the concerns they have pertaining to the balcony.
She stated that she feels this is a lovely community and
she hopes this doesnt isolate people. She stated that
the goal should be to unite people and not have
bickering. Mayor Robertson stated that she is sorry if
this is perceived as bickering. Mayor Robertson stated
that the issues at hand have to do with serving alcohol on
public property, and that by law this is not allowed. She
stated that there are some options that might exist, and
one of them could be a lease agreement between Brews Café
and the Village. Vice Mayor Lucier stated that she is
concerned about there being a precedence set and having
other property owners express an interest in building
balconies on their buildings. Mayor Robertson stated that
Council needs to be aware of any unintended consequences
that could come out of their decision.

Drew McFarland, 230 East Broadway, stated that he is an
attorney and is Brews legal counsel. Mr. McFarland
stated that he was not acting as Brews legal counsel when
speaking tonight and he was not asked by anyone to speak.
He stated that there is no law in this village that says
its illegal to serve alcohol in a public space.
Moreover, he stated that Brews Café should be given the
same options (lease) as that of the church when they did
their building addition. Mr. McFarland stated that there
are really no special issues to address in this
situation. He stated that the proposed balcony is part of
the liquor premises, and the liquor permit allows liquor
to be served on the liquor premises. Mr. McFarland stated
that the sidewalk cafés are on public property, and he
asked where are the leases for these types of cafés. He
stated that there is a strong analogy that these cafés
are the same as a porch that has been there since at least
1914. Councilmember Barsky stated that the sidewalk
cafés are renewed each year, and that this is something
the committees are looking into. Mr. McFarland stated
that he feels Brews Café would consider this option and
be open to the idea of renewing each year.

Ross Kirk, 5419 Columbus Road, stated that he supports the
move of Brews Café to 116 East Broadway. He stated that
he and his daughter go into Brews and as good business
people he doesnt feel they will allow bad things to
happen at their new location.

Lucy Shaw, 116 Spring Valley Drive, stated that she agrees
with Mr. Kirks statements and wanted to make this a
matter of record.

Barbara Hammond, 123 East Broadway, stated that she is a
local business owner and she is in full support of Brews
Café move to 116 East Broadway. She stated that Brews is
a family establishment and it is not just good for
Granville, but all of Licking County. She stated that
many patrons of Brews park next to her business and this
in return helps her business.

Becky Barnes, 120 Brennan Drive, stated that she could see
Council having a problem with the proposed balcony if the
atmosphere was going to be like Brews Too. She stated
that the balcony would be used for dining purposes, and
she would love to have lunch or dinner on the balcony with
her family. She asked Council to state what their
concerns would be with the proposed balcony. Mayor
Robertson stated that Council has not stated lots of
concerns. She stated that our legal department has
explained issues differently from what Mr. McFarland had
stated. Mayor Robertson stated that Council has taken a
stand on one side or the other. Ms. Barnes asked why
there would be any concern about having a balcony on
Broadway, and was it due to aesthetics. Vice Mayor Lucier
stated that she has no idea if putting balconies on
buildings on Broadway would add to the history of the
community. She stated that in New Orleans balconies make
sense and she is not making the comparison to New Orleans
to be about Mardi Gras, but to compare the architecture.
She stated that Council has not even had this issue before
them. Mayor Robertson stated that Council needs to look
and see - is it a precedent good for the entire
community?

Mr. Martin stated that he has met with the Planning and
Zoning Committee and first they didnt need a lease, then
they did. He stated that they would like to start some
construction before snow, he asked Council if they knew
how long this process might take.
Vice Mayor Lucier suggested that he speak with his
attorney, and Council will speak with their legal
department. Mayor Robertson stated that Council meets
just twice a month, and that members of Council have
fulltime jobs, and so are not fulltime Council members.
She stated that there is a chance that Council might know
something by their next Council meeting.

Brian Newkirk, 77 Clouse Lane, stated that he is co-owner
of Brews Café and he handles the insurance for them. He
stated that it should be noted that 70% of the receipts
from Brews Café are for food, while 30% are for alcohol
mainly beer. Mr. Newkirk stated that he has lived in
Granville for many years and he has a three year old
daughter and an eleven year old daughter. He stated that
he and his family frequent his business. Mr. Newkirk
stated that Granville will remain the same if Brews Café
moves three doors down. He stated that although he wishes
the new location would have been three doors down the
other way away from the church. He stated the property
located at 116 East Broadway was for sale for three
years. He stated that the church had the opportunity to
purchase this property if they wanted to control the real
estate. Mr. Newkirk stated that the letter he received
from Manager Hickman about tonights meeting was in
regards to the transfer of the liquor license. He stated
that the major hang-up seems to be associated with the
proposed balcony. He stated that he wasnt as prepared to
speak to this matter because he thought the purpose of the
meeting was for the license transfer. Councilmember
Herman stated that Brews Café was sent this letter
because of objections the church had with the proposed
balcony (that over time expanded to the church objecting
in total to the transfer) and Council wished to hear from
other members of the community. Mr. Newkirk stated that
he thought it was ironic that Brews Café was asked to
come to the meeting, and not Broadstreet Deli who also
applied for a liquor license and is closer to the church
than Brews current location. He stated that our
interests seem to fight more of an uphill battle. Mr.
Newkirk asked why parking is a concern when it comes to
his building when there is a precedence that says there is
no concern with other buildings. He stated that it seems
some would not like to see a guy succeed. Manager
Hickman stated that in regards to Broadstreet Deli, the
village had not received anything official until
yesterday. He stated that there were rumors that the
deli was going to apply for the liquor license. Mayor
Robertson stated that she will have Manager Hickman look
at the BZBA in regards to Mr. Newkirks statements and
that everyone should be treated fairly. Vice Mayor Lucier
stated that she was on the BZBA and feels things are
handled fairly. Mr. Newkirk stated that Council should be
aware that in regards to the liquor license, Brews Café
are good stewards, and he thinks folks would want us to
have it, rather than someone else. He stated that he had
a conversation with a gentleman from York, PA who was
interested in opening a nite club in Granville. He stated
that he knew this was something that would not be wanted
in the community and if Brews were to ever become just a
bar he would sell his shares because he is not interested
in being in the bar business. Mr. Newkirk stated that if
Brews Café doesnt own these liquor licenses someone else
will.

Mr. Newkirk than spoke about a C2 liquor permit he is
requesting for 226 East Broadway. He stated that his
number one reason for wanting to acquire the permit was
because its available. He stated that if he doesnt
obtain it someone else will. He also stated that the
liquor permit is a valuable thing to own. Mr. Newkirk
stated that he has no plans to open a carryout in the near
future.

Dennis Kushon, 327 East Broadway, stated that he lives
next to two establishments that serve alcohol in downtown
Granville. He stated that he has had a positive
experience and that he loves to hear the wonderful
positive chatter from his porch. Mr. Kushon stated that
he and his son enjoy going to Brews Café.

Steve Cramer, Pastor of Centenary United Methodist Church,
stated that he lives next to the Buxton Inn and at times
has been awakened at 2:00 a.m. due to noise from the
establishment. He stated that it depends on how the
alcohol is managed and that the alcohol can have an
influence. Mr. Cramer stated they are not there to
create a war, and that he has nothing against Jerry
Martin. He stated that we are all neighbors and we want
to live in harmony. He stated that the church has been
called neo prohibitionists and they are not against
alcohol, but the misuse of alcohol. He stated that in
regards to the church not responding too quickly to the
alcohol permits, they were never really told the intent of
the use of the building at 116 East Broadway. Mr. Cramer
stated that he had had earlier conversations with Mr.
Martin, but was never really told what would go in the new
location until he received the liquor license transfer
information from the State Liquor Board. Mr. Cramer
stated that Brews is one place serving alcohol, but we
will now have possibly four places right in the immediate
downtown area. He asked how this will influence the
atmosphere of the town before it crosses over to something
we dont need or want in our community. Mr. Cramer
thanked the Council for listening to both sides.

Councilmember Herman asked if Mr. Cramer could give the
specific objections the church had. Mr. Cramer stated
that some of the issues raised by Centenarys Church
Council include noise, the balcony and noise associated
with the balcony, the third floor music, parking, and
trash. Mr. Cramer stated that he is not trying to say
that laughter is bad. He stated that he hopes Brews Café
would consider heavy duty insulation on the inside of the
building to alleviate any noise issues. Mr. Cramer stated
that another issue would be treating the architecture
equally. He stated that the church had plans for a
stairway on the outside of the building, but they were
asked to move it inside and they would like to see equal
consideration. He stated that it is his understanding
that the proposed sidewalk next to Brews would be five
feet wide in some areas but three feet wide next to the
stairs. Mr. Cramer ended by saying that he would like to
work together.

Councilmember Herman stated that in regards to the
stairs/sidewalk width it is important to point out that
there was a substantial negotiation relative to the thirty
plus feet the church took from green space. He stated
that in terms of an equitable situation, this is something
to bear in mind.

Mayor Robertson stated that it would be her hopes that the
two parties could speak more about these issues. Mr.
Cramer stated that the church would be willing to do
this. Mr. Martin also indicated that he would not be
opposed to meeting.

Sandy Wilson, 33 Bending Oak Drive, stated that she wished
to speak about the issues brought up in regards to trash.
She stated that there is not enough room to put another
dumpster in the rear of Brews Café, and that the trash is
picked up everyday, but she can not control what time of
day the trash hauling company picks it up. She stated
that Brews is currently busting at the seams. Ms.
Wilson stated that she recently took pictures of another
building that seemed to have trash issues. Ms. Wilson
stated that the new Brews location will allow for a new
place to conceal the trash dumpsters. Mr. Newkirk later
stated that there will also be a grease trap installed so
that it wont have to be put in a dumpster.

Frank OBrien Bernini, 338, stated that he would like to
ask Council to not be neutral in this situation, but
support a local business. He stated that he has never
witnessed any boisterous or noisy activity outside of
Brews establishment.

Terry Miller, 36 Hampden Drive, stated that he has been a
township resident for 47 years and that the Village is
way too uptight. He stated that it appears to him that
Brews and the church have the same goals and that they
need to get together to iron things out. Mr. Miller
stated that Brews helps sponsor the 4th of July fireworks
for our community. He stated that he knows Reverend
Cramer well. He stated that some of the stuff that
happens at Council is often talked about at Brews. Mr.
Miller stated that there was a time years ago when Denison
students had to drive to alcohol establishments. He
stated that he feels it is safer to have students (of
legal age) walk down to Brews and then walk back up the
hill.

John DeNune, 234 East Broadway, stated that he is the
skunk at the garden party. Mr. DeNune stated that he
lives close to the proposed liquor license establishments
and he is opposed to them being permitted.

Brian Newkirk stated that Mr. DeNune is his neighbor and
they are friends. He stated that the State determines how
many liquor licenses should be available not him (Brian
Newkirk). He stated that maybe the goal should be to talk
to the Liquor Control Board to see if too many permits
have been issued.

Dave Love, 437 Oak Meadow Drive, Pataskala, stated that
the Liquor Control Board investigates the requesting
permit establishments very thoroughly. He asked Council
to let them do their job. He stated that he sees
Councils support of the church as a small violation
between church and state. Mayor Robertson stated that
Council is not going to the hearing on behalf of the
church, they are going as an interested party.

Tom McCullough, Lay Leader at Centenary United Methodist
Church, stated that he had some additional things hed
like to mention. He stated that in regards to the first
permit from Broadstreet Deli, the church did object, but
did not request a hearing. Mr. McCullough stated that the
church was not aware of any easement requests when they
made their decisions. He stated that the church has a
legal right to say that we believe the character will
change. Mr. McCullough stated that Centenary United
Methodists Church is not against alcohol, but the misuse
of alcohol. He stated that the Council is being prayed
for and that they are praying for wise decisions to be
made by everyone.

Mayor Robertson closed public comments at 8: 50 pm.

There was a ten minute recess.

PUBLIC HEARING (9:02 pm)
   Ordinance No. 28-04, An Ordinance To Establish The
Granville Village Managers Salary For 2005.
   No one appeared to speak for or against Ordinance
No. 28-04. Mayor Robertson closed the public hearing.

NEW BUSINESS (9:03 pm)
   2005 Municipal Budget Vice Mayor Lucier
confirmed receipt of the 2005 Proposed Municipal Budget.
Second by Councilmember OKeefe.

   Resolution No. 04-65, A Resolution To Establish
The Time And Place Of A Public Hearing For The 2005
Municipal Budget As Proposed By The Village Manager, was
introduced by Councilmember Barsky. Second by
Councilmember OKeefe.

Discussion: Councilmember Barsky noted an error in the
Resolution year should be 2004, rather then 2003.
Council stated that the public hearing would be December
1, 2004.

Motion carried.   Resolution No. 04-65 was adopted.

OLD BUSINESS
   Ordinance No. 28-04, An Ordinance To Establish The
Granville Village Managers Salary For 2005 was re-
introduced by Vice Mayor Lucier. Second by Councilmember
Herman.

Discussion: None.

Roll call vote: Barsky, Hartfield, Herman, Lucier, Main,
OKeefe, Robertson (7-0)

Ordinance No. 28-04 is adopted.

REVIEW OF MINUTES
Regularly Scheduled Meeting of October 20, 2004
Councilmember Main moved to accept the minutes as amended;
seconded by Councilmember Herman. Motion carried, 7-0.

Regularly Scheduled Meeting of November 3, 2004
Councilmember Herman moved to accept the minutes as
amended; seconded by Councilmember Barsky. Motion
carried, 7-0.

MAYORS COURT REPORT October
The Mayors Court Report for the month of October was
presented for review.

Discussion: Councilmember Barsky inquired on the increase
in No Parking tickets. She asked if they were issued in
a specific area. Manager Hickman stated that they are
typically given where permit parking has been issued.
Councilmember Barsky asked if it is typically Denison
students who receive these tickets. Manager Hickman
stated yes. Mayor Robertson added that new students come
who arent familiar with these No Parking areas.

Councilmember Barsky moved to accept the October reports;
seconded by Vice Mayor Lucier. Motion carried 7-0.

Mayor Robertson instructed the report be filed with the
Clerk. A copy of the said report is included as part of
these Minutes.

MANAGERS REPORT October
The Managers Report for the month of October was
presented for review.

Discussion: Councilmember Barsky stated that the number of
leaf pickups is ½ that of last year. Manager Hickman
explained that this is the second year the village has
added a second leaf pickup machine. He went on to say
that one crew will continue leaf pickup next week.

Mayor Robertson stated that out of 52 weighed trucks,
there was only one violation issued. She stated that this
shows that the scales are a huge success, at least for
this particular month.

Councilmember OKeefe inquired on a specific truck she saw
on Broadway and asked what types of trucks would and
wouldnt be allowed. Manager Hickman stated that unless
they are doing business on Broadway they shouldnt be
there. He stated that for example, a grain truck making a
stop at the mill would be allowed.

Vice Mayor Lucier inquired on the Income Tax Evasion
investigated by Officer Dawson. She asked if this is
common. Manager Hickman stated that the tax commissioner
will handle cases like this to a certain point, and that
they sometimes need to be turned over to the police He
stated that a citation is typically given.

Councilmember Herman inquired on the Special Detail
Fatal Vision Glasses and asked what this was in regards
to. Councilmember Barsky stated that special thick
glasses are given to individuals by police officers to
show them what might happen when drinking irresponsibly.
She stated that individuals who wear the glasses are asked
to drive a golf cart on an obstacle course and with the
thickness of the glasses, driving impairments are often
shown. This would emulate the effect that alcohol could
have.

Councilmember Hartfield moved to accept the October
report; seconded by Councilmember Barsky. Motion carried
7-0.

   Mayor Robertson instructed the report be filed
with the Clerk. A copy of said report is included as part
of these Minutes.

COMMITTEE REPORTS

Economic, Finance, Personnel Committee (EFP) Hartfield,
Herman, Lucier
Councilmember Herman stated that a letter went out to
participants of the last River Road meeting. He stated
that the letter said that the Village is working on
calculations of different scenarios in regards to costs
for sewer extension. Councilmember Herman stated that
Manager Hickman would meet with the property owners to see
what their contribution levels would be. Manager Hickman
stated that this meeting will likely take place on
November 24th at 4:30 p.m., and he will confirm with
everyone. Councilmember Herman stated that the committee
will likely meet after the budget presentation on December
1, but before the December 15th Council meeting. This
date is yet to be determined.

Light, Safety, Sts/Sidewalks, Utility Committee (LSSU)
Lucier, Hartfield, Main
Councilmember Hartfield asked for the agenda for the next
meeting to not include the Walkability study. She stated
that the committee will have some odds and ends to discuss
as well as the Thoroughfare Plan, which she anticipates to
be lengthy.

Planning Commission OKeefe
Councilmember OKeefe stated that awnings for Green Velvet
were approved. She stated that the committee addressed
some wall sign modifications, and that a house east of the
Buxton Inn was approved to get a new porch.

Senior Committee Robertson
No Report.

Union Cemetery Main
Councilmember Main stated that the committee is working on
the application process to include Old Colony Cemetery to
be listed in the National Registrar of Historic Places.
The Granville Foundation supplied the original funds for
this, and they will be applying again for more funds. He
stated that 550 stones have been restored, and there are
150 restorable stones. He stated that by the Bicentennial
year, the plan is to move the burial grounds from
restoration mode to more of a maintenance mode.

Councilmember Main stated that the committee has accepted
resignations and recognized two individuals who have had
outstanding commitment to Old Colony Cemetery. The couple
is Ken and Sandi Nihiser. He stated that he wasnt sure
if they would agree (due to a previous conversation he had
with Ms. Hoffman), but it would be nice to recognize the
Nihisers in some way for their work and dedication.
Mayor Robertson asked for a Resolution to be made up and
for the Nihisers to be invited when it is presented.

Planning & Zoning Committee (P&Z) Barsky, OKeefe,
Robertson
Councilmember Barsky stated that the committee received
feedback from the Trustees in regards to a proposed JEDD.
She stated that the largest areas of contention include
the zoning and the makeup of the JEDD board. She stated
that the Trustees would also like their zoning rules to be
in place in the JEDD area. Councilmember Barsky stated
that Trustees would like to see the JEDD Board made up as
follows:

2 Members appointed by Council
3 Members appointed by the Trustees
1 Member elected by the above four.

She stated that the proposed arrangement would allow the
Trustees to appoint three of the five members, rather than
two of the five. Councilmember Barsky stated that the
Trustees have proposed including land along Route 16 to
the Dow plant that includes Spring Valley land on both
sides of the road. She stated that they would like this
area to also be considered as possibility for the JEDD, as
well as the Dow Chemical Plant. Councilmember Barsky
stated that other issues raised were not real deal
breakers. Vice Mayor Lucier asked what the rational was
for the appointment increasement. Councilmember Barsky
stated that Trustee Havens stated that they would be more
qualified because of their business friendliness.

Councilmember Barsky stated that the current set up would
have approvals would come before the Village Planning
Commission, and if these go before a Township Planning
Commission do they have the same clout that the
municipality has in terms of enforcement.

Law Director Crites stated that our counter to this is
that the Village has broader powers in general than the
Township Trustees. He stated that there will be more
discussion on this.

Councilmember Barsky stated that they will discuss LSSUs
thoughts in regards to the Thoroughfare Plan at their next
meeting.

OTHER COUNCIL MATTERS
Councilmember Barsky stated that Ryan Hilberts should be
the contact person on having some Denison students accept
a Resolution for community service. She did not have a
phone number for Mr. Hilberts, but suggested calling
Denisons main number 587-0810. She stated that the
only meeting this could take place would be December 1st
(depending on their availability) and that the students
are gone after that. Councilmember Barsky stated that
some of the students have indicated that they dont feel
the work they did could be considered a community
service. She stated that perhaps this could be addressed
when presenting the Resolution.

Councilmember Herman stated that the Granville Education
Foundation Grants committee is working on four or five
projects to help kids with special needs.

Councilmember Herman stated that Community Connections
Commercial Development Committee will take input from
earlier meetings and create a template. It was stated
that the meeting tomorrow night will be a full meeting at
the Board of Education room.

Brews Café 116 East Broadway

Council discussed how to proceed with Brews Café. Law
Director Crites stated that three weeks ago he submitted a
lease that was rejected. He stated that Brews would like
a ground lease similar to what Centenary United Methodist
Church received. He asked Council if they would like a
lease negotiated.

Councilmember Hartfield stated that she would like to
review what precedent is being set. She stated that she
had some concerns over Mr. Martins email which
stated share and share alike.

Councilmember Herman asked if the question is that if
Council says yes now, do they have the ability to say no
later.

Law Director Crites stated that criteria listed in the
lease were set by the Planning and Zoning Committee. He
stated that Mr. McFarland appreciated the effort, but
wished to have a lease similar to that of the church,
which he believed to be a long term - 99 year type lease.
Law Director Crites stated that Brews Café indicated
tonight that they would be open to a lease similar to that
of an outside café.

Councilmember Herman asked if the lease would include the
balcony, porch, and side area all in one lease, and he
asked if these should be separated into separate lease
agreements.

Councilmember Barsky stated that she would like to have a
better understanding of how the church was handled in
regards to their proposed stairwell. She asked if Brews
stairwell is for general access, or just emergencies. She
stated that she thought the only thing that should be
looked at for an annual review would be the balcony.

Councilmember OKeefe stated that applications for Whits
and Victorias outside cafés are reviewed each year, and
that noise and nuisance issues are something that can be
controlled because of this.

Law Director Crites stated that as legal counsel, he does
not view the balcony as being the same as an outside café
simply due to the alcohol.

Councilmember Barsky asked What if later Victorias wants
an outside balcony, can Council be capricious in their
decision? She also asked if architecture issues can be
taken into account on any building.

Councilmember Hartfield asked if Council has the authority
to not allow alcohol on the balcony.

Law Director Crites stated that it has been his position
that the balcony is considered public property.

Mayor Robertson asked if Law Director Crites could prepare
a lease agreement as a starting point. Law Director
Crites stated yes, and he agreed that a December 1
timeframe was feasible.

Councilmember Hartfield stated that she would like to see
a draft document on December 1, but not have it
introduced.

Councilmember OKeefe stated that the balcony and stairwell
have been approved by the Planning Commission.

Vice Mayor Lucier stated that this is now known to be
public property, and it wasnt at the time of the Planning
Commissions decision.

Councilmember Barsky inquired on the structural issues.
She stated that she would suggest going beyond the
building code and pushing the envelope to the limit. It
was stated that a building permit would be needed from the
State. Councilmember Barsky stated that Council needs
verification that this has been done and she indicated
that she has dealt with too many buildings where problems
have arisen.

Councilmember Herman asked if the lease agreement
indicated that if there is a change in ownership, the
negotiations would have to start all over again fair
game all over again. Law Director Crites stated that
there is a clause in regards to change of use.

Mayor Robertson stated that the draft document would not
be considered an offer by
Council. Councilmember Hartfield stated that she would
have concerns that it would be perceived as one.

Law Director Crites stated that there needs to be time
taken to protect the Village and do everything right, just
as was done in regards to the church.

Manager Hickman stated that it should be noted that some
opportunities were presented back in October.

Mayor Robertson stated that the lease document will be
reviewed by Council before it is sent out. She stated
that it will be a two part lease agreement, and that
Councils intention is to have it for December 1st or
December 15th.

Law Director Crites stated that he will have a Resolution
drawn up for the December 1 meeting instructing him to
continue negotiating a lease agreement with Brews Café,
and if Council wishes they can pass this Resolution.

Councilmember Main stated that in regards to the
precedence that is being set, there are no other buildings
in the area with an existing porch. He stated that this
precedence has in some way already been set, and it
wouldnt necessarily show that a balcony could be
transferred to another building. He stated that he
is not quite as concerned about balcony proliferation.

Councilmember Barsky asked if Council has filed to be an
interested party for just the one license.

Mayor Robertson stated that the C2 transfer to 116 East
Broadway is the hearing Council requested to attend as an
interested party. She stated that Mr. Martin has not
stated any plans for the old Brews location and that a D5
permit is also being requested. She stated that some
people do hold these permits without using them.

Councilmember OKeefe stated that Mr. Martin has the option
to extend the lease at the old Brews for five more
years.

It was stated that Mr. Martin indicated that he wished to
have the D5 permit to control competition.

Councilmember Main stated that he feels why not them over
someone else to hold the liquor permits.

Councilmember Barsky added that it would be better than an
absentee landlord holding the permits.

Vice Mayor Lucier inquired on why the additional liquor
permits were being issued.

Councilmember Barsky stated that she has asked Manager
Hickman to look into this.

Kendal Sewer

Manager Hickman stated that he was not present at the last
meeting Mr. Bellman spoke of. Council asked if
information was given out that would lead Kendal to
believe the costs would be a great deal less. Manager
Hickman stated that they had their own estimates and own
engineers.

Councilmember Barsky stated that she was at the meeting
and that Kendal is requesting a TIF which is a reduction
in their property taxes. She stated that this request
comes as a result of cost overruns due to the sewer line
installation. She stated that with the TIF, there would
be an $89,000 reduction per year in taxes, and there is
concern over what this would do to the schools.

Councilmember Barsky explained that Kendal originally
planned to pay $400,000 to install the lines, but the
actual estimation jumped to $650,000 after discussing
larger gravity lines with the village. She stated that
with the gap, Kendal spoke with Council and it was agreed
that Kendal would pay the $650,000 and if any other
community customers tapped into the line than those fees
would be turned over to Kendal up to $225,000. She
stated that the actual cost to put in the sewer lines was
closer to one million dollars and Kendal is now trying to
resolve issues associated with this cost overrun. Council
discussed the cost overrun and it was stated that there
were many issues that contributed, such as water issues,
gravity lines, and the general costs to install the
lines.

Councilmember Herman asked if the Village had Kendall
install larger lines. Manager Hickman stated not
totally. Councilmember Herman asked if they agreed to
the larger lines. Manager Hickman stated yes.

Councilmember Barsky stated that the question is whether
Council would consider listening to what happened and
consider alternating the cost sharing.

Mayor Robertson stated that businesses cannot tap in to
the sewer lines unless they are annexed in or they want to
be part of a JEDD.

Councilmember Herman asked if the Township had taken a
position on this.

Councilmember Barsky stated that they know they need to
take a position. She stated that during the meeting she
stated that she thought Council might listen if Manager
Hickman was presented with all of the data. She later
stated that she put Council in the position to listen to
the reasons for the cost overrun, if the data was
presented, but she was not sure they wanted to show the
data.

Councilmember Herman asked if there was any part of the
arrangement where the Village didnt do what they said
they were going to do.   Manager Hickman stated no.

Vice Mayor Lucier stated that there is an emphasis on what
dollars the schools will lose, but it actually will affect
all abatements if the TIF is put in place.

Councilmember OKeefe stated that she didnt think Council
should get involved.

Councilmember Main stated that if we adjust the cost
sharing, they could redo the money and have less money in
the TIF.

Mayor Robertson stated that if Council would allow more
allotment with the $225,000 this could put more pressure
on them for more development. She stated that they need
to look at what pressures could come to bare down on
Council.

Manager Hickman stated that he would hate to lose the
capital improvement fund for their (Kendal) sewer.

Councilmember Hartfield stated that she doesnt mind
listening to what they have to say, but it doesnt
necessarily mean Council would need to act in some way.

Mayor Robertson stated that she is hearing a majority of
Council saying to let the process work. She stated that
Council at this point chooses to not get involved, and it
will be something for the Township to take up.

Fiscal Impact Study Randall Gross MORPC

Mayor Robertson stated that Clark Berdan, Vice Mayor
Lucier, and herself met and discussed Randall Grosss
proposal to do a Fiscal Impact Study for the Village of
Granville. She distributed a copy of information to
Council. Mayor Robertson stated that this study could be
beneficial for many things Council is working on such as
the Community Connections process and the work being done
by Mr. Steve Millett. She stated that they are proposing
that the costs be covered by asking the school board to
contribute $2000, and maybe $1000 from the Township, and
the remaining $6500 from Council. Mayor Robertson stated
that the study looks at many different things and it would
address the fiscal impacts for the governmental entity.
She stated that similar studies have been done for
Delaware, Newark, and Worthington. Vice Mayor Lucier
added that the study is easy to read.

Councilmember Herman stated that he would like to see
broad support from the Community Connections group for
this study.

Councilmember Hartfield stated that it appears to be a
statistical analysis. She asked if other sub committees
from Community Connections should speak with Mr. Gross as
well.

It was asked who approached who. Vice Mayor Lucier stated
that the committee approached Mr. Gross after seeing some
of his work. She stated that he will look at the entire
school district when doing his report. She stated that he
was suggested by a MORPC employee.

Councilmember Main stated that he was disturbed by a
comment made by Mayor Robertson in regards to Mr. Gross
being interested in preserving other communities. Mayor
Robertson stated that he wont make the data biased.
Councilmember Main stated that he would feel much better
if Mr. Gross went into the collecting of data without a
care of either side. Councilmember Main stated that the
price/fee is reasonable.

Mayor Robertson stated that they would like to present
this at the meeting tomorrow night and asked for someone
to move to approve the expenditure, and Council could be
responsible for up to $6500 of the $8000 cost.

Councilmember Main moved to approve the expenditure for
the fiscal study done by Mr. Gross. Second by Vice Mayor
Lucier. (6 Yeas, 1 Nay).

Mayor Robertson stated that there will be an
Intergovernmental Meeting on November 29th.

EXECUTIVE SESSION
Pursuant to ORC 121.22(G)(2) To consider the purchase,
or sale of property&&... (118 South Main Street).

Councilmember Main moved to enter into Executive Session,
Seconded by Councilmember Barsky.

Roll call: Hartfield, Herman, Lucier, Barsky, Main,
Robertson, OKeefe, Hartfield (7, 0)

Time in: 11:00 pm.

Councilmember Hartfield moved exit out of Executive
Session and return to Regular Session. Seconded by
Councilmember Main.

Time out: 11:11 pm.

Roll call: OKeefe, Robertson, Main, Barsky, Lucier,
Herman, Hartfield (7, 0)

ADJOURNMENT (11:12 pm)
   Councilmember Main moved to adjourn. Second by
Hartfield.
    Motion carried, 7-0. Meeting adjourned.



Submitted by Melanie Schott

Council Minutes 11/3/04

GranvilleVillage — Mon, 23 Jan 2012 21:27:12 +0000

VILLAGE OF GRANVILLE
COUNCIL MINUTES
November 3, 2004

CALL TO ORDER (by Mayor Robertson at 7:31 pm)

PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE

ROLL CALL
   Those responding to the roll call were
Councilmembers Barsky, Hartfield, Herman, OKeefe, Vice
Mayor Lucier and Mayor Robertson. Assistant Law Director
Gorry and Manager Hickman.

   Councilmember Hartfield moved to excuse
Councilmember Main. Second by Councilmember Barsky.

APPROVAL OF AGENDA (7:33 pm)
   Councilmember Hartfield moved to amend the agenda
and hold the Executive Session between Items 7 and 8.
Vice Mayor Lucier also moved to amend the agenda and move
to New Business (Item 15) to the beginning of New
Business (Item 9). She also asked to move Other Council
Matters after New Business.
   Vice Mayor Lucier moved to accept the agenda as
amended . Second by Councilmember OKeefe.

CITIZENS COMMENTS (7:34 pm)
Tom McCullough, 102 East Broadway, Lay Leader for
Centenary United Methodists Church. Mr. McCullough stated
that several individuals from Centenarys congregation
have sent letters to Council in regards to various
concerns they have with the proposed liquor license
transfer for Brews Café.   He stated that the main
concerns stem from alcohol being served on a proposed
balcony. He stated that there are also concerns with
trash, noise, and parking. Mr. McCullough stated that the
church would like to continue allowing public parking in
their parking lot. He went on to say that they hope the
parking lot will be available for church use since the
church has programs and activities going on during most
days of the week. Mr. McCullough stated that some
additional issues relate to the entire community. He
stated that the character of the village should be
considered when looking at the approval of the liquor
permits. He stated that the benches in the downtown area
are often a gathering place for youth, and that this area
could be less safe being next to an establishment where
alcohol is served. Mr. McCullough stated that this could
also make the community less attractive to families.

Mayor Robertson asked if the church was going to request a
hearing, and were they before Council to ask them to join
in their request. Mr. McCullough stated yes.

Councilmember Barsky asked if the church was objecting to
the transfer of the liquor license from the current Brews
Café. Mr. McCullough stated yes.

Councilmember Herman asked if the proposed balcony was the
main issue that the church objected to? Mr. McCullough
stated that the balcony is a large part of it, as well as
the concerns over the use of the parking lot. Mr.
McCullough provided an example of two cars parked in the
church parking lot and stated that he witnessed
individuals from one of the cars walking into Brews
Café.

Debbie Link, 2567 North Street, stated that she has lived
in Granville her entire life. She asked Council to
consider a parents perspective when making their
decisions in regards to Brews Café. She stated that
Granville High School is looking at forming a focus group
for alcoholism. She stated that although parents do hold
a huge responsibility in raising their children, the
community plays a part as well. She stated that the high
school is working hard to address these kinds of concerns,
and she would like to see the community stand behind
them. Ms. Link stated that there are several family
oriented activities in the downtown area such as the
Candlelight Walking Tour, Kiwanis 4th of July, Concerts on
the Green, and the Bike Tour. She stated that all of
these events are family oriented. Ms. Link stated that
she has concerns that the environment in the downtown area
would go from family oriented to adult oriented. She
stated that she agrees with Mr. McCullough and that the
youth do hang out in the downtown area near the benches.
She stated that the library has just passed a levy, and
she can see even more kids wanting to hangout in the
downtown area. Ms. Link stated that Granville is about
being family and she asked the Council to keep this in
mind when making their decisions.

Mayor Robertson asked Manager Hickman to clarify the
procedures/process Council plays with all liquor license
requests. Manager Hickman stated that the decision lies
with the Liquor Control Board. He stated that in regards
to this matter (with Brews Café) Council has one decision
before them and that is the use of the property within the
right of way. Manager Hickman stated that it was
mentioned that a deli downtown has requested a liquor
license, and this is not the case. He stated that there
is a request for a liquor license transfer to D5 status
and a new C2 request for 226 East Broadway Newkirk
Design Studio.

Assistant Law Director Gorry stated that a municipality
has no authority to control alcohol consumption on a
licensed premises.

Mayor Robertson stated that Councils chance to do
anything in regards to this matter is to request a
hearing.

Assistant Law Director Gorry stated that Council can
determine the zoning classification.

Councilmember Hartfield stated that if Council requested a
hearing along with the church, Council can appeal to the
Liquor Board to deny the request.

Councilmember Barsky asked what criteria the Liquor Board
uses when making their decision?

Law Director Gorry read aloud the following criteria
provided by the Liquor Board:

   (c) Is so located with respect to the neighborhood
that substantial interference with public decency,
sobriety, peace, or good order would result from the
issuance, renewal, transfer of location, or transfer of
ownership of the permit and operation under it by the
applicant; or
   (1) That the place for which the permit is sought
is so situated with respect to any school, church,
library, public playground, or hospital that he operation
of the liquor establishment will substantially and
adversely affect or interfere with the normal, orderly
conduct of the affairs of those facilities or institutions;
(2) That the number of permits already existent in the
neighborhood is such that the issuance or transfer of
location of a permit would be detrimental to and
substantially interfere with the morals, safety, or
welfare of the public. In reaching a conclusion in this
respect, the division shall consider, in light of the
purposes of this chapter and Chapters 4301. and 4399. of
the Revised Code, the character and population of the
neighborhood, the number and location of similar permits
in the neighborhood, the number and location of all other
permits in the neighborhood, and the effect the issuance
or transfer of location of a permit would have on the
neighborhood.

Assistant Law Director Gorry stated that the board will
not accept general objections for the request, and that
the evidence must deal with adverse consequences to the
adjacent properties.

Councilmember OKeefe asked if Council were to request a
hearing, would their request be considered more seriously
than say that of another entity? She asked if Council
would have to testify?

Mayor Robertson and Assistant Law Director Gorry indicated
that Council should testify if they make the request to
have a hearing.

Mr. McCullough stated that he was told by the Liquor Board
that a legislative body would have more influence on their
decision than say that of another entity.

Steve Herb, 113 Trempell Lane, stated that he would
encourage this Council to remain neutral in this matter as
long as no laws are being broken. In regards to a
different matter, Mr. Herb stated that he would like to
see the leaf pickup schedule suspended for Election Day in
the future. Mr. Herb also stated that the deer population
needs to be addressed.

Doug Wagner, 300 Pinehurst Drive, stated that he frequents
Brews Café, but feels that the proposed three story
structure would change the complexion of the village. He
stated that the proposed balcony would not display a
wholesome atmosphere with people drinking and smoking.
Mr. Wagner stated that Council needs to look at what moral
direction is the community is going. He stated that this
hearing is a huge position for Council to act in some
way.

Mayor Robertson asked how many people were in attendance
on the churchs behalf. A formal count was not taken.
Approximately, 12-15 individuals raised their hand. Mayor
Robertson asked if anyone present was there in opposition
to the churchs concerns. No one raised their hand.

John DeNune, 234 East Broadway, stated that he was not
aware of a request for a liquor license permit for 226
East Broadway until tonight. Vice Mayor Lucier stated
that Council was also just made aware of this request.

Terry Link, 2567 North Street, stated that he reads the
papers and guesses that 80% of the police reports are due
to the consumption of alcohol. He stated that by having
more alcohol in the downtown area, it causes more work for
the police force and opens a bigger can of worms.

Mayor Robertson closed citizens comments at 8:05 pm.

APPEAL HEARING 447 W. College Street
Court Reporter Marilyn Houck was present to transcribe the
appeal hearing. A copy of the appeal hearing is attached
as part of these minutes.

Mayor Robertson asked Assistant Law Director Gorry if this
matter could be discussed outside of Council? Assistant
Law Director Gorry stated yes, and in this matter
Council's role is part of a quasi judicial proceeding.

BRYN DU COMMISSION PRESENTATION/DISCUSSION
Reed Fraley, 257 Clouse Lane, stated that Council should
have received a copy of Bryn Du Commissions report.
Council acknowledged that they had received the report.
He thanked Manager Hickman and his staff for the work that
they do. Mr. Fraley stated that the facility has been
used by Granville Boosters, High School athletics,
Granville Rec Commission, Columbus Polo, and a wedding.
He stated that the commission is currently working with
the Bicentennial Commission to host a Thanksgiving Ball.
Mr. Fraley stated that the commission is currently looking
at the gutted portion in the rear of the mansion. He
stated that they are looking at refurbishing this
particular area with a catering kitchen and bathrooms. He
stated that the approximate cost would be $210,000. Mr.
Fraley stated that with Councils appropriation of this
money, the job could be completed by September of next
year, or late October. Mr. Fraley stated that the
commission has approached State Senator Jay Hottinger and
State Representative Dave Evans for their support in
approaching the Ohio Arts Commission. He stated that the
commission is also looking at initiating requests for
federal funds, as well as philanthropic donations. Mr.
Fraley stated that the capital and operating budget will
be available for Council later in this month. Mayor
Robertson recognized members of the commission who were
present at the Council meeting and thanked them for their
work.

Vice Mayor Lucier asked if any revenue has been
generated? Mr. Fraley stated that some in-kind donations
have come in. He stated that Columbus Polo does pay a
fee. He also stated that at this point they dont believe
the facility can be self sustaining. Mr. Fraley stated
that revenue could develop over time, but it wont be
instantaneous.

EXECUTIVE SESSION
Pursuant to ORC 121.22(G)(2) To consider the purchase,
or sale of property&&... (118 South Main Street).

Pursuant to ORC 121.22(G)(1) To consider the
compensation of a public employee.

Councilmember Hartfield moved to enter into Executive
Session, Seconded by Vice Mayor Lucier.

Roll call: Herman, Lucier, Barsky, Hartfield, Robertson,
OKeefe, (6, 0)

Time in: 9:50 pm.

Councilmember OKeefe moved exit out of Executive Session
and return to Regular Session. Seconded by Councilmember
Hartfield.

Time out: 10:10 pm.

Roll call: Hartfield, OKeefe, Robertson, Barsky, Lucier,
Herman (6, 0)

PUBLIC HEARING
   None Scheduled

NEW BUSINESS (10:12 pm)

   Ordinance No. 28-04, An Ordinance To Establish The
Granville Village Managers Salary For 2005 was introduced
by Vice Mayor Lucier. Second by Councilmember Hartfield.

Discussion: Councilmember Hartfield stated that Manager
Hickman does a fine job and thanked him for his work.

Mayor Robertson set the public hearing for Ordinance No.
28-04 on November 17, 04.

   Ordinance No. 29-04 An Ordinance To Authorize The
Village Manager To Execute A Lease Agreement For The
Property Located At 118 South Main Street For A Sixty Two
Day Period And To Declare An Emergency was introduced by
Councilmember Hartfield. Second by Vice Mayor Lucier.

Discussion: None.

Roll call on Emergency Clause: Robertson, Barsky, Lucier,
Herman, Hartfield, OKeefe (6-0)

   Councilmember Hartfield moved to adopt Ordinance
No. 29-04. Second by Vice Mayor Lucier.

Roll call vote on Ordinance No. 29-04: Barsky, Lucier,
Herman, Hartfield, OKeefe, Robertson (6-0)

Ordinance No. 28-04 is adopted.

   Resolution No. 04-62, A Resolution To Establish
The Maximum Annual Compensation Adjustment For Fiscal Year
2005 was introduced by Councilmember Herman. Second by
Vice Mayor Lucier.

Discussion: None.

Motion Carried. Resolution No. 04-62 is adopted.

   Resolution No. 04-63, A Resolution To Authorize
The Village Manager To Advertise For Bids For The Purchase
Of Water Treatment Chemicals was introduced by
Councilmember OKeefe. Second by Councilmember Barsky.

Discussion: None.

Motion Carried. Resolution No. 04-63 is adopted.

   Resolution No. 04-64, A Resolution Of Appreciation
To The Denison University Panhellenic Council was
introduced by Councilmember Barsky. Second by Vice Mayor
Lucier.

Discussion: Mayor Robertson asked Manager Hickman to
explain some of what had been done by the students.
Manager Hickman stated that the students did an excellent
job pulling and raking leaves, washing windows, installing
storm windows, and hanging garland. He stated that there
was a terrific group of young women who completed these
tasks last weekend. He estimated that about 100 women
helped out. Councilmember Barsky stated that the students
had a good time, and when asked if the students might be
willing to do another service day, she thought that they
would. Mayor Robertson asked about having members from
the group present at a future Council meeting to be
recognized. Manager Hickman stated that a representative
was not able to be there tonight, but he would check on a
future date.

Motion Carried. Resolution No. 04-64 is adopted.

OTHER COUNCIL MATTERS
Liquor License Transfer 116 E. Broadway
Mayor Robertson stated that the question before Council is
the request by the church for Council to also request a
hearing.

Chris Strayer, Village Planner, stated that he might be
able to shed some light on the permit requests. He stated
that Brews Café had previously requested a D5 permit, but
one was not available. After Brews Café requested the
current permit, a D5 permit became available. He stated
that it his understanding that Brews Café would like to
have the D5 permit used where Brews Café is now located.
Council asked if the old Brews Café would still be a
restaurant. Mr. Strayer stated that he was not sure.
Councilmember Hartfield asked if the D5 request makes it
six liquor license requests total. Mr. Strayer stated
yes. She asked if they could use all of them if they
bought five different buildings. Mr. Strayer stated yes
if the permission to transfer is made and granted.
Manager Hickman stated that they are researching who has
the liquor license and where they are for. He stated
that more information will come before Council soon.
Mayor Robertson asked when is the deadline to request a
hearing? Manager Hickman stated in few days. Mayor
Robertson stated that this matter needs to be addressed
tonight. Councilmember OKeefe asked what C2 status is?
Mr. Strayer stated that one classification is for beer,
one is for carryout, and one is for the consumption of
beer and wine.

Mr. McCullough provided a list of the permit classes and
fees. They are attached as part of these minutes.

Councilmember OKeefe stated that she heard strong comments
from people about changing the characteristics of the
village from family centered to adult centered
activities.

Councilmember Barsky stated that as far as the Liquor
Board it seems that if Council were to request a
hearing part of the argument needs to include that there
would be adverse effects to adjacent properties.

Assistant Law Director Gorry stated that Council can
attend the hearing in opposition of the permit.

Councilmember Herman stated that if Council takes the
opposition stand, they need to have a clear idea on what
the adverse effects are to the adjacent properties.

Councilmember Hartfield stated that she thinks the church
has shown some adverse effects.

Councilmember Herman asked if Council has the option to go
to the hearing as an interested party?

Assistant Law Director Gorry stated that Council needs to
make a decision whether or not they want to request a
hearing, and they dont necessarily have to formulate a
policy.

Councilmember OKeefe mentioned the churchs concerns of
trash, safety, character, and parking.

Councilmember Herman asked if the church had requested a
hearing. It was stated yes.

Manager Hickman stated that Assistant Law Director Gorry
has stated that Council can request a hearing, but they
dont necessarily need to decide on what their concerns
are tonight.

Councilmember Hartfield made a motion to join the church
in a request for a hearing. Seconded by Councilmember
OKeefe. Councilmember Hartfield indicated that this
motion would include the transfer for a permit, as well as
the new request for a permit both hearings.

Mayor Robertson stated that with this request Council will
have the option to speak and they can decide on their
stance with the matter, but it doesnt have to be
tonight.

Councilmember Herman stated that an offer to extend an
invitation to the applicant (Brews Café) should be made
for the next Council meeting to discuss issues relative to
the concerns made tonight.   Manager Hickman stated that
he would contact them.

Granville Solvents
Councilmember Hartfield stated that the LSSU Committee has
been made aware that the cleanup effort is finished. She
stated that a request came in to have Council provide
something formally written that supports the redevelopment
of the site. Councilmember OKeefe asked how Council could
say the site is cleaned up? Vice Mayor Lucier stated that
they wouldnt need to state that the area is cleaned up,
but that the request simply asked Council to support
redevelopment on the land. Councilmember Herman stated
that he is not sure he sees the public benefit of this
recommendation by Council. Councilmember Hartfield stated
that the EPA spokesman (Jerry Myers) feels that any
funding is more likely with Councils support. It was
stated that the site has been mentioned as a possible area
for senior citizen housing. Mayor Robertson asked for the
individual requesting Councils support to be invited to
speak at a future meeting.

1956 ODOT Oil Spill
Manager Hickman stated that 50,000 gallons of crude oil
spilled during road construction across from Raccoon
Valley Golf Coarse in 1956. He stated that if the EPA is
approached, they may be willing to work with Marathon and
ODOT to start an investigative procedure. Vice Mayor
Lucier stated that the Ohio EPA has a desire to
investigate this. Council agreed to have the matter
looked at.

Crosswalks @ S. Main & Newark-Granville Road
Manager Hickman stated that if new signs are installed on
South Main Street and Newark Granville Road it might give
a false sense of security to a point that it might be
best to not have any signs. Manager Hickman stated that
he is looking for Councils suggestions.    Councilmember
Hartfield stated that the crosswalk on South Main is very
unpredictable and dangerous. Manager Hickman stated that
it is younger children who tend to walk, thinking that
traffic will stop. Mayor Robertson asked if we could
investigate going under or over the road. Manager Hickman
stated that they have looked at this, and under the road
is not do-able because of sewer lines. He stated that if
they went over the road, the bridge would need to be
really high. Council discussed the crosswalk lights.
Councilmember Hartfield stated that the South Main
crosswalk is unique. She stated that it looks like an
intersection in many places, but it is not. Mr. Strayer
stated that design things could be done to slow down
traffic. Council discussed the fines associated with the
crosswalk and whether or not they work. Vice Mayor Lucier
stated that if someone were caught and fined and this was
publicized it might allow the fines to work. Mr. Strayer
stated that Mr. Berdan had suggested a small median to be
installed. Council agreed to further look at this idea in
the future.

Council Planning Projected Issues/Dates
Council had a general discussion in regards to charting
topics that are in committee and when they will be coming
out of committee. Mayor Robertson stated that there needs
to be a better lay out of things that Council is working
on. She stated that she has designated a steering
committee to include Manager Hickman, Vice Mayor Lucier,
and herself. She stated that when a committee has
something that they think will be coming out of committee
to let her know. She stated that better projecting will
make it so not everything is on one agenda. Mayor
Robertson indicated that this was something she wished to
try and if it works great if not something else could
be tried. Mayor Robertson stated that the dates reflected
on the chart are dates that where any information is
gathered it could be distributed to the committees.
Councilmember Hartfield stated that some of the items
listed for the committees to discuss are lengthy topics.
She stated that the committees shouldnt be over burdened
with lengthy topics plus the regular housekeeping things
that come about. Mayor Robertson stated that any changes
in the dates can be sent to her. She stated that the
purpose of projecting the issues is so that Council is not
in a position that they cant pass legislation because
its not done in a particular committee. Councilmember
Herman stated that he wished to know what was driving the
need for this chart, and he indicated that he had an issue
with calling it a steering committee. Mayor Robertson
indicated that it doesnt need to be called a steering
committee. Mayor Robertson stated that it is a
flowchart, and it is not an attempt to assign work to
committees. She stated that the chart simply coordinates
the work with other committees, as well as the staff.
Councilmember Barsky stated that for example she asked
Manager Hickman to provide her with a list of priorities
that the staff saw for the Planning and Zoning Committee.
She stated that this way the committee can push the stuff
through set up stuff to talk about finish it and get
it out of their committee to the next committee.
Councilmember Hartfield stated that its seems like the
chart is like the critical path, and she doesnt quite
understand it. Mayor Robertson stated that this is not an
exhaustive list. She stated that the staff is strained
and that this list is a way for Manager Hickman, Vice
Mayor Lucier, and herself to decide on what the agenda
will be, and not just Manager Hickman. She stated that
until now, Manager Hickman has been preparing what should
and should not be on the agenda, and by having all three
of them involved it will lessen some burden off of Manager
Hickman. Mayor Robertson went on to say that this Council
has worked very hard and that no other Council has worked
as hard as this Council. Councilmember Hartfield asked if
this chart is due to a strain on staff. Mayor Robertson
stated that this strain needs to be recognized.



OLD BUSINESS
   None Scheduled


REVIEW OF MINUTES (Tabled)
Regularly Scheduled Meeting of October 20, 2004

COMMITTEE REPORTS (Tabled)
Economic, Finance, Personnel Committee

Light, Safety, Sts/Sidewalks & Utility Committee

Planning Commission

Planning & Zoning Committee

Recreation Commission

Senior Committee

Union Cemetery

ADJOURNMENT
   At 11:15 pm, Councilmember Hartfield moved to
adjourn the meeting. Second by Vice Mayor Lucier. Motion
carried, 6-0. Meeting adjourned.


    Submitted by Melanie Schott

Council Minutes 10/20/04

GranvilleVillage — Mon, 23 Jan 2012 21:22:26 +0000

VILLAGE OF GRANVILLE
COUNCIL MINUTES
October 20, 2004

CALL TO ORDER (by Mayor Robertson at 7:30 pm)

PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE (Led by Cub Scouts Pack 3)

ROLL CALL

   Those responding to the roll call were,
Councilmembers Barsky, Hartfield, OKeefe, Herman, Main,
Vice Mayor Lucier, and Mayor Robertson; Manager Hickman
and Law Director Crites. Motion carried.

APPROVAL OF AGENDA (7:32 pm)
      Councilmember Herman moved to accept the agenda
as presented, seconded by Councilmember Main. Motion
carried.

CITIZENS COMMENTS (7:33 pm)

Brad Betts, leader of Cub Scouts Pack 3 and Weeblos 2 Den
1, spoke to Council to thank them for the opportunity to
have the Scouts lead in the Pledge of Allegiance. He
stated that by attending the Council meeting the Scouts
will have partly fulfilled their Citizenship requirement.

Mayor Robertson closed public comments at 7:34 pm.

PUBLIC HEARING (7:34 pm)
   None scheduled

NEW BUSINESS (7:35 pm)
   Resolution No. 04-60, A Resolution To Accept Phase
V Of The Bryn Du Woods Subdivision was introduced by
Councilmember Main. Second by Councilmember
Barsky.

Discussion: Manager Hickman explained that this was a
typical housekeeping Resolution to accept Phase V of the
Bryn Du subdivision. He stated that there is a one year
warranty period with the passage of this Resolution.
Councilmember OKeefe stated that she had spoke with an
individual in regards to a sidewalk and wondered if this
Resolution would address the situation she had previously
explained to Manager Hickman. Manager Hickman stated that
this Resolution does not pertain to the situation
Councilmember OKeefe is referring to because its location
is in the Colony. He stated that he has not forgotten
about this situation, and he is still watching
it.

   Motion carried (7-0). Resolution No. 04-60 is
adopted.

   Ordinance No. 27-04, An Ordinance Providing For
The Issuance Of $145,000 Of Notes In Anticipation Of The
Issuance Of Bonds For The Purpose Of Paying Part Of The
Costs Of Refunding The Outstanding Principal Amount Of The
Villages Sewer System Mortgage Revenue Refunding Bonds
Dated As Of May 1, 1991 And Constructing Improvements To
The Municipal Sanitary Sewer System, And Matters Related
Thereto, And Declaring An Emergency, was introduced by
Councilmember Barsky. Second by Councilmember OKeefe.

Discussion: Councilmember OKeefe stated that there was a
typo on Page 1 eleven years. Molly Roberts, Finance
Director, took note of the error. Ms. Roberts also stated
that this is the final year for this note. She stated
that the Village saved roughly $100,000 in interest
costs. Vice Mayor Lucier asked for further explanation on
the refund for the bond. Ms. Roberts stated that this is
our final refund for a one year term. Councilmember
Hartfield asked if the debt for sewer service will totally
go away next year. Manager Hickman stated that it will be
substantially decreased, but not totally go away.
Councilmember OKeefe asked for clarification on the bottom
of the first page. Ms. Roberts stated that this
particular area is the legal language needed to legalize
the note. She stated that it needs to be tied to an
actual bond. Ms. Roberts also stated that the one year
note is at 2.25% interest.

Vice Mayor Lucier moved to pass Ordinance No. 27-04 as an
emergency. Seconded by Councilmember Herman.

Roll Call Vote on Emergency Clause: Lucier, Herman,
Barsky, Hartfield, Main, Robertson, OKeefe. Motion
carried (7,0).

Councilmember Barsky moved to adopt Ordinance No. 27-04.
Seconded by Councilmember OKeefe.

Roll Call Vote on Ordinance No. 27-04. OKeefe, Robertson,
Main, Hartfield, Barsky, Herman, Lucier. Motion carried
(7,0).

Ordinance No. 27-04 is adopted.

OLD BUSINESS
   None scheduled

Strategic Workshop
Steve Millett spoke to Council in regards to strategic
planning. Mr. Millett stated that he had met with the
Village staff earlier that day. He stated that they
discussed the concepts of strategic planning and compiled
a list of trends to gather additional data on. He stated
that they also discussed short term plan objectives. Mr.
Millett stated that he was struck by what little content
there appears to be in the comprehensive plan in regards
to Denison University. He stated that it is his belief
that the stability of Granville rests on the stability of
Denison University, and he advocates that they be included
in the strategic plan. Mr. Millett stated that if the
university population falls off or surges, it will affect
the Village of Granville. Mr. Millett stated that his
approach to strategic planning includes being more
proactive and less reactive. He stated that the first
theme the staff discussed was Denison University in terms
of employment, resources, salaries, and the spending power
of the student body. He stated that the stability of
Granville will depend of many of these factors. Mr.
Millett stated that the Village of Granville is in the
process of being squished by Newark to the east and
Columbus to the west. He went on to say that there is a
unique ambiance in this town. Mr. Millett stated that
with the States plan to bring 161 (two lanes) to
Granville it is clear that they need to start laying a
foundation to preserve the quality of life, while
accommodating the coming growth. Mr. Millett stated that
there is much more diversity in central Ohio in areas of
race, religion, and ethnicity and that the strategic plan
needs to include this diversity. Mr. Millett stated that
it is his view that the problem is that the quality of
life is a self-defeating dilemma. He stated that as
people move to Granville there will not only be an
increase in people, but traffic and crime. He stated that
the Village needs to be proactive and admit that there are
changes and to study what the changes are. He stated that
there is a process with futuring and visioning, and if you
do futuring without visioning you have wishful
thinking. Mr. Millett stated that there needs to be team
building and the township, county, university, and
possibly Newark need to be included. Mr. Millett also
stated that he sees the process and product as being
equally important.

Councilmember Herman stated that Mr. Millett discussed the
process, and he wondered if he could envision a timeframe
or agenda to strategic planning. Mr. Millett stated that
he would think that this coming Spring would be a good
time to do this. He stated that, ideally, it is done
parallel to the operational plan in January or February.
He stated that it is still ok to do the long term planning
after the operational in March or April. Mr. Millett
suggested doing the normal operational planning and then
go back to the long term plan Council has from 2001. He
stated that they should also gather the data of trends in
a spreadsheet. He stated that Council should start with a
simple economic plan, and not an elaborate one.

Mayor Robertson stated that she wanted to propose to
Council about asking MORPC to do an economic plan as they
have for other areas. She asked Mr. Millett how he would
see this plan fitting into his suggestions. Mr. Millett
stated that he has not ever worked with MORPC.

Councilmember Barsky stated that by collecting the data it
will allow Council to see linear trends, and she asked how
Council could look at what happens under different
conditions. Mr. Millett stated that he could conduct a
one day workshop that looks at different scenarios using
software. He stated that Council should be aware that a
trend analysis will not count in discontinuities, and that
expert judgment analysis is needed to catch this.

Councilmember Herman stated that he has been looking at
ways to tie the budgeting process in with the planning
process. Mr. Millett stated that he sees budgeting as
planning, and that a lot of politics go into the budget.
He stated that a three year plan is generally considered
to be operational. Mr. Millett emphasized the value of
futuring and stated that it helps you look at the external
environment. Councilmember Herman stated that the Village
tends to do a lot of incremental budgeting. He asked Mr.
Millett how they can move away from that. He asked, for
example, how Council should look at whether or not they
should be funding sidewalks, streets, or helping the
business environment. Mr. Millett stated that there will
always be some element to reactive and you can never be
100% proactive. He also suggested incorporating
preventative maintenance into the budget. Councilmember
Herman stated that he believes about one half of the
budget is fungible. He stated the importance of long term
thinking.

Mayor Robertson asked Mr. Millett about the one day
workshop he spoke about. Mr. Millett stated that this
could be an analysis scenario approach after the trend
data has been gathered and put together. He stated that
scenarios could be run to see the alternatives and what
the future might look like. Mr. Millett discussed a
similar workshop he held at Dension University.

Councilmember OKeefe inquired on where the data comes
from. Mr. Millett stated that future data is zero, and
that the current data Council has is not arrayed.

Councilmember Barsky asked if Mr. Millett is aware of any
other municipalities doing the same kind of strategic
planning he is suggesting. Mr. Millett stated no.

Mr. Millett recommended that the next step should be for
the Village staff to type out the list of trends discussed
at todays workshop and distribute it to Council. Manager
Hickman stated that they discussed putting the strategic
plan on the calendar for January or February.

Councilmember Barsky stated that Mr. Millett has mentioned
that the Village needs to think regionally beyond the
Village. She stated that one way to engage the other
stakeholders is to have Mr. Millett speak to them at a
Community Connections meeting in the future. She stated
that this would be a chance for all of the entities to
work together. Mayor Robertson stated that we are at that
point. Councilmember Herman stated that the next
Community Connection meeting will be November 18th. Mayor
Robertson stated that the staff will work on the trend
list and that Council will be talking with Mr. Millett in
the near future. Council thanked Mr. Millett for his
comments and suggestions.

Mayor Robertson stated that it appears that many of the
people at the Council meeting might be there in regards to
the Liquor License Transfer. She stated that this topic
would be next on the agenda, and she reopened Citizens
Comments.

OTHER COUNCIL MATTERS
Liquor License Transfer Request
Re-open Citizens Comments

John Minsker, Centenary United Methodists Church, spoke to
Council in regards to some concerns they had with church
parking and possible noise from the Brews Too
establishments new location. Mr. Minsker asked if a
letter written by representatives of the church was
distributed to Council. Council acknowledged receipt of
the letter. Mr. Minsker stated that they would like
Council to consider the endless stream of adults and
children that use the church facility not only on Sunday
morning, but every other night of the week. He stated
that the parking lot behind the church is fuller and that
they are concerned that this parking lot would have even
less availability due to the proximity of Brews Cafés
entrance to their lot. He stated that they also have a
concern with noise from the establishment, and there are
concerns about the sidewalk along the building with a
proposed outside stairwell. Mr. Minsker stated that an
agreement was made in the 1950s between the church and
Village to share the parking lot and allow public
parking.

Dale Knobel, 204 West Broadway, stated that he wanted to
voice some concerns about the proposed open balcony and
the use of alcohol. He stated that he feels the business
could operate without this particular feature.

Vice Mayor Lucier asked if Mr. Knobels concerns were
about the liquor license transfer or the open balcony and
parking. Mr. Knobel stated that the church is not happy
with the liquor license being within twenty feet of the
church.

Councilmember Barsky asked if the concerns are in regards
to the balcony or because of the use of alcohol in a
public space, and what if the alcohol is kept in a private
space?

Mr. Knobel stated as a resident of Broadway and the areas
family friendliness atmosphere, he feels that particular
location is not an appropriate outdoor location to serve
alcohol and that there could be a better one.

Councilmember Herman asked about the church parking lot
and when it is typically used. Mr. Knobel stated that any
night of week and not just on Sunday mornings.

Vice Mayor Lucier asked if there was a current problem
with the parking lot and is the church afraid that Brews
Cafés new location will worsen the problem? Mr. Knobel
stated that parking is dodgy.

Mayor Robertson asked for more information about the
agreement between the church and Village in regards to
public parking on the lot. Mr. Minsker stated that he was
not around for these conversations, but Buck Sargeant
was. He stated that he was told by Mr. Sargeant that
there was nothing written down in regards to this
agreement, but it was an oral agreement. He stated that
there was a land swap when the church built their
educational building. He stated that the church agreed to
allow public parking on the lot.

Mayor Robertson closed Citizens Comments at 8:50 pm.

Councils Discussion of Liquor License Transfer
Councilmember Barsky stated that she sees all of the
concerns raised not pertaining to the serving of liquor
itself, but concerns with neighbors.

Vice Mayor Lucier stated that the Village has the
authority to say yea or nay on the serving of alcohol on
public spaces, but no control on alcohol being sold within
the establishment. She stated that this is handled by the
State.

Mayor Robertson stated that no alcohol can be served in a
public space, and therefore it is being discussed in
committee to propose a lease agreement between Brews Café
and the Village for the use of the public space. Mayor
Robertson stated that the Planning and Zoning Committee
has discussed a possible lease agreement that would need
to be approved by Council. She stated that no such
recommendation has come before Council.

Councilmember Hartfield stated that things seem to be out
of sequence. She stated that better overview is needed.
She stated that the Planning and Zoning Committee
shouldnt be better informed than Council in regards to
any kind of lease agreement.

Law Director Crites stated that there are two different
issues here. He stated that the matter before Council
entails an existing liquor license and its transfer from
one location to another. He stated that the letter sent
by the Liquor Control Board allows Council to ask for a
hearing either at the Liquor Control Board or at the
County seat. He stated that with all liquor license
transfers, the municipality is given the right to request
a hearing. He stated that neighboring establishments
within so many feet of the requested liquor establishment
are also given the chance to ask for a hearing. Law
Director Crites explained that if Council wished to
testify at a hearing, they would need to indicate this to
the Liquor Board. Law Director Crites stated that the
other issue is the usage of the liquor license. He stated
that the transfer of the liquor license has nothing to do
with how it will be used.

Mayor Robertson responded to Councilmember Hartfields
concerns and stated that although this situation seems
murky, it is not. She stated that Law Director Crites has
explained two separate issues before Council.

Councilmember Hartfield stated that it is murky when you
consider the community input. She stated one is linked to
the other regardless of how you break it up.

Mayor Robertson stated that the question before Council is
whether or not they would like a hearing with the Liquor
Control Board and the involved parties.

Law Director Crites stated that Council has until November
8th to consider this issue. He stated that there will be
another Council meeting on November 3rd.

Councilmember Main stated that when separating out the two
issues he doesnt have a problem with the liquor license
transfer and he sees no reason why Council would need to
request a hearing, especially if the church has the
opportunity to request one on their own. Councilmember
Main stated that the other issue at hand can be separated
out from this and be further discussed at a later time.

Vice Mayor Lucier stated that she agrees completely with
Councilmember Main.

Councilmember Herman stated that many of the
comments/issues brought up tonight relate to Councils
approval of the usage issues, and not in regards to the
liquor license transfer.

Councilmember OKeefe stated that she would prefer not to
make a decision on asking for a hearing at this time and
would like to hear from the community.

Councilmember Hartfield stated that she doesnt feel
Council should file for a hearing, but as good stewards of
the community, if the church has concerns, she stated
Council should be concerned as well.

Councilmember Barsky stated that she agreed with
Councilmember Hartfield and Councilmember Main. She
stated that if Council waits to decide about the hearing
until the November 3rd meeting they could see if the
church wants to request a hearing, and if Council feels it
is important to be a witness at the hearing.

Mayor Robertson asked if everyone on Council could live
with tabling the issue until November 3rd. There were no
objections by Council.

Jerry Martin stated that his experience with Liquor
Control is that they are looking for any legal reasons why
a transfer should be denied. He stated that if anyone
believes they have a legal reason that the transfer should
be denied, then to request a hearing.

Councilmember Barsky asked the representatives from
Centenary United Methodists Church to get back to Council
by November 3rd in regards to whether or not they plan on
requesting a hearing with Liquor Control.

EXECUTIVE SESSION
Pursuant to ORC 121.22(G)(2) To consider the purchase,
or sale of property&&... (118 South Main Street).

Pursuant to ORC 121.22(G)(3) To conference with an
attorney for the public body concerning disputes involving
the public body that are the subject of pending or
imminent court action (118 South Main Street).

Councilmember OKeefe moved to enter into Executive
Session, Seconded by Councilmember Herman.

Roll call: Herman, Lucier, Barsky, Main, Robertson,
OKeefe, Hartfield (7, 0)

Time in: 9:16 pm.

Councilmember Main moved exit out of Executive Session and
return to Regular Session. Seconded by Councilmember
OKeefe.

Time out: 9:35 pm.

Roll call: Hartfield, OKeefe, Robertson, Main, Barsky,
Lucier, Herman (7, 0)

REVIEW OF MINUTES
Regularly Scheduled Meeting of October 6, 2004
Councilmember Barsky moved to accept the minutes as
amended; seconded by Councilmember OKeefe. Motion
carried, 7-0.

MAYORS COURT REPORT September
The Mayors Court Report for the month of September was
presented for review.

Discussion: Councilmember Barsky noted an increase in
underage consumption. Mayor Robertson stated that many of
these offenders are planting bulbs as part of their
community service.

Councilmember Barsky also noted an increase in parking
ticket violations. She asked if this is due to the
Denison students being back? Chief Cartnal stated that a
large number of the violations are a result of complaints
that are called in from residents on Burg Street.

Councilmember Herman moved to accept the September
reports; seconded by Councilmember OKeefe. Motion carried
7-0.

Mayor Robertson instructed the report be filed with the
Clerk. A copy of the said report is included as part of
these Minutes.

MANAGERS REPORT September
The Managers Report for the month of September was
presented for review.

Discussion: Councilmember Barsky asked Manager Hickman if
everything in the report appeared to be normal from his
perspective. Manager Hickman stated yes.

Vice Mayor Lucier inquired on when the State freeze is
expected to kick in. Manager Hickman stated that this is
expected for next year, but it is not yet a for sure thing
that is going to happen. Manager Hickman stated that
State monies are all in the general fund. He stated that
this year they projected to have $200,000, and next year
the projection is for $190,000 as revenue.

Councilmember Main moved to accept the August report;
seconded by Councilmember                    Barsky.
Motion carried 7-0.

   Mayor Robertson instructed the report be filed
with the Clerk. A copy of said report is included as part
of these Minutes.

COMMITTEE REPORTS

Economic, Finance, Personnel Committee (EFP) Hartfield,
Herman, Lucier
Councilmember Herman stated that the committee discussed
pay for village staff. He stated that the pay Ordinance
will be proposed for introduction at the next Council
meeting. He stated that the committee looked at cost of
living raises (2.7%) and merit raises (1.3% - 2.3%). He
stated that due to the excellent job done by Molly Roberts
on health care coverage, the committee felt the healthcare
savings could help offset the costs for pay increases that
the committee is recommending. Councilmember Herman
stated that the merit raises will be given at the
discretion of Manager Hickman and department heads.

Light, Safety, Sts/Sidewalks, Utility Committee (LSSU)
Lucier, Hartfield, Main
Committee will meet October 29th at 9:00 am.

Planning Commission OKeefe
Councilmember OKeefe stated that it was a short meeting.
She stated that plans for an addition for a house on
Summit Street was denied. She stated that the committee
felt the proposed addition would detract from the
character of the home. Councilmember OKeefe stated that a
request for a Remax building sign will revert back to red,
white, and blue. She stated that various fences were also
approved. Councilmember OKeefe stated that a request made
by Green Velvet (formally Mom and Me) was tabled.

Senior Committee Robertson
Mayor Robertson stated that the committee met with
representatives from National Church Residences and that
they are very interested in preparing a proposal. She
stated that their next step will be to present an artists
rendering of possible proposals. Mayor Robertson stated
that the committee is grateful to Keith Myers for his eye
and help in this matter.

Union Cemetery Main
Councilmember Main stated that the annual Halloween tour
will take place on October 28th. He stated that there is
always a need for volunteers to be stationed at different
locations to watch for vandalism and such.

Planning & Zoning Committee (P&Z) Barsky, OKeefe,
Robertson
Councilmember Barsky asked if the LSSU committee received
the Thoroughfare Plan. Committee members stated that they
had received it the day before.

Vice Mayor Lucier asked if Council could take a minute to
discuss the potential proposals for 116 East Broadway,
since they were discussing issues relating to the Planning
and Zoning Committee. She asked if it is necessary to
have the committee (and others) do all of the work in
preparing the lease if this Council were to decide that
they wouldnt want to make public property available for
the usage being proposed.

Councilmember Barsky stated that this was a good question

Councilmember OKeefe asked how we arrived at the current
timeline?

Councilmember Barsky stated that she believes the village
staff suggested that the applicant come to the Planning
and Zoning Committee to talk about what the concerns were
and what their plans were. She stated that it then became
an issue of whether or not the existing structure and
proposed structure were on public property. Councilmember
Barsky stated that a survey was done, and if she recalls
some of the conversations correctly, she believes the
applicants attorney disputes that it is considered public
property. It was stated that the survey showed the
structure to be on public property. She stated that the
idea of a lease agreement between the Village and the
applicant was then derived.

Vice Mayor Lucier stated that she understood how the
situation came to this, but she wondered if Council were
to make a decision on whether or not they want to make
public property available, it could change some of the
circumstances. She stated that if Council were to decide
to not make public property available, then the committee
would not need to go through the work of negotiating a
lease.

Councilmember OKeefe asked Councilmember Hartfield if her
question earlier was why this went to the Planning
Commission and then the BZBA?

Councilmember Hartfield stated that it seemed that we
have the cart in front of the horse, so to speak. She
asked why the applicant is before the Planning Commission
with an architectural design for use of public property
that has not been approved by Council. She stated that
this is presumptuous, and a lease is presumptuous. She
stated that it is her opinion that the transfer of a
liquor license is presumptuous. She stated that she
believes there should have been approval for use of the
public property before anything else.

Mayor Robertson stated that she has seen situations like
this in years past, where you wonder how did we get here
with this situation. She stated that this situation is
certainly muddled. Mayor Robertson also stated that she
doesnt believe the involved parties were aware that there
was even an issue with part of the structure being on
public property.

Councilmember Barsky stated that this situation shows that
this is certainly not a clear orderly process.

Vice Mayor Lucier stated that she would like to propose
that Council figure out a mechanism to figure out if
Council wants to authorize the use of public space to
build on.

Mayor Robertson stated she sees this as reasonable.

Councilmember Main stated that in this case it is overly
simplistic. He stated that the reality is that the public
space is already being used. Councilmember Main stated
that its hard to say you cant do something when its
already being done.

Vice Mayor Lucier stated that there is a structure there
(on public property), but its not being used for business
purposes.

Councilmember OKeefe stated that an existing porch is
being referred to, but they are actually proposing to put
a new structure up a balcony that could also be
considered to be on public property.

Councilmember Main stated that if Council decides to say
no to this proposal, he thinks that having the legal
issues researched is something that needs to be done.

Mayor Robertson stated that the difficulty here is that no
one knew this was public property, the survey told us that
it was.

Councilmember OKeefe stated that she would be for
authorizing the use of the public space, but the other
decision Council needs to make is if it should be
authorized to use when there is alcohol served.

Mayor Robertson stated that the space cannot be used to
serve alcohol, unless Council agrees to lease the land to
the owner.

Councilmember Main inquired if it is illegal to serve
alcohol on public property. He asked how it is served in
student unions. It was unclear if alcohol is permitted at
state university student unions. It was suggested by
Mayor Robertson that the use of alcohol in a public space
might be something that Law Director Crites could further
research.

Councilmember Barsky stated that the lease agreement was
on the Council agenda and then taken off. She stated that
she would prefer that the committees know when any matter
will be on the agenda.

Councilmember Herman stated that he doesnt mind this
matter being looked at in committee before it comes before
Council.   He stated that this is what the committees are
for.

Councilmember OKeefe stated that these are the kinds of
situations Council is unable to predict. She stated that
the applicant has also had to go through a lot of hoops.

Mayor Robertson stated that when the process is working
fine, Council doesnt notice. She stated that most of
the time the process does work just fine. Mayor
Robertson asked if Mr. Martin was aware that the lease
went on the agenda. Manager Hickman stated yes he was at
the meeting both times the issue went on the agenda.

Mayor Robertson moved on to other Council matters.

OTHER COUNCIL MATTERS
Ohio Veterans Association Mayor Robertson stated that
there will be a dinner and dance on October 30th where
volunteers are needed to help work. Councilmember Main
asked if this pertained to the group being deployed?
Mayor Robertson stated yes, and that the letter explains
there will be a farewell gathering on October 31st. She
stated that the dinner will be First Baptist Church in
Heath and the dance will be at the Advantage Club. She
asked for anyone able to help to contact Bev Adzic.
Councilmember OKeefe added that it might be good to have
this advertised to the community in the newspaper.

Other
Councilmember Barsky stated that the Tree and Landscape
Committee would like to designate a tree for the
Bicentennial. She stated that they have chosen the tree
closest to the corner of Prospect St. and Broadway St.
(next to the post office. She stated that the tree is not
100 years old, but they want to dedicate it on Arbor Day
in the Spring. Mayor Robertson asked if they would like a
proclamation, and Councilmember Barsky believed they
would.

Mayor Robertson stated that she would like to have a
mailing in regards to Issues 15 and 16 on the ballot. She
stated that the mailing would go to members of the
community who receive a water bill. She stated that
Council is permitted to send out factual information, as
long as it is not persuasive to one side or the other.
She suggested putting the actual ballot language on a
postcard with a paraphrase explaining the legal language.
She stated that all but two members were supportive of
Issue 15, and all seven members of Council supported Issue
16. Mayor Robertson stated that they could list the names
of the members of Council who supported the issues.
Councilmember Hartfield stated that even though this is
permitted, it seems political. Mayor Robertson stated
that not bringing the issues to the peoples attention
could also be perceived as being political. Councilmember
Herman suggested that if there is any paraphrasing done it
should be done by a neutral organization without political
ties, such as the Women League of Voters. Councilmember
Main stated that he questions if there is enough time for
such a mailing, and who would do it, and how much would it
cost? It was stated that the mailing would go to anyone
who receives a water bill; Manager Hickman estimated that
number to be approximately 1100. Councilmember Hartfield
suggested removing any endorsements and just having the
language. She stated that she understands that the ballot
language can be unclear. Councilmember Barsky clarified
if Councils decision was to have Law Director Crites (and
his wife whom is a member of the Women League of Voters)
take care of the paraphrasing with the ballot language.
Council agreed and asked Manager Hickman to have the
mailing sent out as soon as possible.

Councilmember Barsky stated that she had the opportunity
to ride with 3 Granville officers while patrolling their
late night shift. She stated that it was good experience
for her, and she encouraged other members of Council to
do the same.

ADJOURNMENT (10:30 pm)
   Councilmember Barsky moved to adjourn. Second by
Hartfield.
    Motion carried, 7-0. Meeting adjourned.


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VILLAGE OF GRANVILLE
COUNCIL MINUTES
October 6, 2004

CALL TO ORDER (by Vice Mayor Lucier at 7:32 pm)

PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE

ROLL CALL
   Those responding to the roll call were
Councilmembers Barsky, Hartfield, Main, OKeefe, and Vice
Mayor Lucier. Law Director Crites and Manager Hickman.

It was stated that Mayor Robertson would be late.

Councilmember Barsky moved to excuse Councilmember Herman
and Mayor Robertson. Second by Councilmember Main.

APPROVAL OF AGENDA (7:35 pm)
   Vice Mayor Lucier moved to amend the agenda by
eliminating Item 7C (Ordinance No. 26-04) because she was
advised by Manager Hickman to do so. Second by
Councilmember Hartfield.

   Councilmember Main moved to accept the agenda as
amended. Second by Councilmember Hartfield.

CITIZENS COMMENTS (7:35 pm)

No one appeared to speak.

Vice Mayor Lucier closed citizens comments at 7:36 pm.

PUBLIC HEARING
   Ordinance No. 24-04, An Ordinance Approving And
Adopting The Bail Bond And Guilty Waivers Schedule For The
Village Of Granville, Licking County, Ohio.

   No one appeared to speak for or against Ordinance
No. 24-04. Vice Mayor Lucier closed the public hearing at
7:37 pm.

   Ordinance No. 25-04, An Ordinance To Amend
Ordinance No. 26-03 Providing For Adjustments Of The
Annual Budget For The Fiscal Year 2004 And Revising Sums
For Operating Expenses.

   No one appeared to speak for or against Ordinance
No. 25-04. Vice Mayor Lucier closed the public hearing at
7:37 pm.

NEW BUSINESS (7:37 pm)

   Resolution No. 04-58, A Resolution Accepting The
Amounts And Rates As Determined By The Budget Commission
And Authorizing The Necessary Tax Levies And Certifying
Them To The County Auditor was introduced by Councilmember
Barsky.
Second by Councilmember OKeefe.

Discussion: Molly Roberts, Finance Director, was present
to address any concerns/questions Council had. She stated
that the Resolution was annual housekeeping required by
the Ohio Revised Code. Councilmember Barsky inquired if
the Resolution speaks of the tax budget passed in July of
2004. Ms. Roberts stated yes. Councilmember Barsky also
noticed a grammatical error/typo in the Resolution.
Manager Hickman stated that the Resolution comes from the
County in this form, and they do not have the capability
of correcting it.

Roll Call Vote: Hartfield, Barsky, Lucier, OKeefe, Main (5-
0).

Resolution No. 04-58 is adopted.

   Resolution No. 04-59, A Resolution Opposing The
Cutting OR Freezing Of The Local Government Fund And Local
Government Revenue Assistance Fund was introduced by
Councilmember OKeefe. Second by Councilmember Barsky.

Discussion: Councilmember OKeefe asked does this
Resolution have any teeth? Ms. Roberts stated that the
Resolution is an attempt to move in that direction.
Councilmember OKeefe then asked if the Resolution would go
to the state legislature. Ms. Roberts stated yes.
Councilmember Barsky stated that the Ohio Municipal League
has also discussed the issues associated with Resolution
No. 04-59. Vice Mayor Lucier added that action on this
Resolution is appropriate, especially after receiving the
recent letter from a state senator regarding local funds.

Roll Call Vote: Lucier, Main, Barsky, Hartfield, OKeefe (5-
0).

Resolution No. 04-59 is adopted.

   Schedule Appeal An appeal on BZBA Application
No. 04-096 was scheduled for November 3, 2004.

OLD BUSINESS

   Ordinance No. 23-04, An Ordinance Granting A Non-
Exclusive Franchise To FrontierVision Operating Partners,
L.P. D/B/A Adelphia Cable Communications (The Grantee( To
Construct, Operate, And Maintain A Cable System In The
Village Of Granville, Ohio (The Grantor); Setting Forth
The Terms And Conditions Accompanying The Grant Of The
Franchise; And Providing For Regulation And Use Of The
System was removed from the table by Councilmember
Hartfield. Second by Councilmember Barsky.

Discussion: Councilmember Hartfield moved to Withdraw
Ordinance No. 23-04. Second by Councilmember Barsky.

   Ordinance No. 24-04, An Ordinance Approving And
Adopting The Bail Bond And Guilty Waivers Schedule For The
Village Of Granville, Licking County, Ohio was
reintroduced and moved for adoption by Councilmember
OKeefe. Second by Councilmember Barsky.

Discussion: Law Director Crites stated that he was asked
to look at the Bail Bond and Guilty Waiver schedule. He
stated that Chief Cartnal had also looked at the
schedule. Law Director Crites went on to say that he
pulled bond schedules for all of central Ohio and that
this Ordinance is well within reason. Law Director Crites
stated that the bond schedule needs to be updated on a
more regular basis. He stated that there was some
question as to whether or not the Mayor alone had the
authority to accept the schedule.    He stated that Mayor
Robertson thought that it would be appropriate to bring
the matter before Council, and that he concurred with her
thoughts. Councilmember OKeefe asked if the fees in the
Ordinance are similar to other municipality fees. Law
Director Crites stated yes.

Councilmember Barsky asked how the patrolmen would get
this information, and would a copy of the Ordinance go to
each officer. Manager Hickman stated that he can talk
with Chief Cartnal, but he believes information like this
gets transmitted during periodic training sessions. He
stated that Law Director Crites also attends the training
sessions. Law Director Crites and Manager Hickman
indicated that copies of the Ordinance could be passed out
to each officer if this is what Councilmember Barsky would
like to see happen. It was decided to distribute a copy
of Ordinance No. 24-04 to each officer.

Roll Call: Hartfield, Main, Lucier, Barsky, OKeefe (5-0).

Ordinance No. 24-04 is adopted.

   Ordinance No. 25-04, An Ordinance To Amend
Ordinance No. 26-03 Providing For Adjustments Of The
Annual Budget For The Fiscal Year 2004 And Revising Sums
For Operating Expenses was reintroduced and moved for
adoption by Councilmember OKeefe. Second by
Councilmember Hartfield.

Discussion: Molly Roberts, Finance Director, stated that
this should be the last adjustment unless something
unforeseen were to come up.

Roll Call Vote: OKeefe, Barsky, Lucier, Main, Hartfield (5-
0).

Ordinance No. 25-04 is adopted.

REVIEW OF MINUTES
Regularly Scheduled Meeting of September 15, 2004
Councilmember Main moved to accept the minutes as
amended. Second by Councilmember Barsky. Motion carried,
5-0.

COMMITTEE REPORTS
Economic, Finance, Personnel Committee
Vice Mayor Lucier updated Council on a meeting that took
place in regards to discussions of the benefits and costs
of an annexation of property located on River Road that
would include water and sewer extension   She stated that
it was a good discussion, there were a lot of good
questions. Vice Mayor Lucier stated that the property
owners wanted to know how much it would cost to pay for
the extension of water and sewer. She stated that the
staff is now going to work on different models to see how
the finances could be worked out between the village and
property owners. She stated that these models would be
looked at and discussed at the next meeting, and all of
the property owners would be invited.   Manager Hickman
stated that he would have a written report from the
meeting for Council. It was stated that the next meeting
date has not yet been determined.

Light, Safety, Sts/Sidewalks & Utility Committee
Councilmember Hartfield stated that several letters in
regards to traffic calming, noise, speed bumps, and safety
were discussed. Some of the areas mentioned included E.
College Street, Samson Place, and Sunset Street.
Councilmember Hartfield stated that Captain Bob Otter was
at the meeting and stated that the fire department feels
that speed bumps would hinder the response time for
emergency vehicles, as well as damage the emergency
equipment. Councilmember Barsky asked what some
alternatives might be. Councilmember Hartfield stated
that staggered parking and/or better enforcement could be
an alternative. Councilmember OKeefe asked if the speed
bumps will affect the response time. Councilmember Main
stated that it would because the emergency vehicle has to
come to a complete stop before going over the speed bump.
Councilmember OKeefe stated that she had never thought of
this being an issue. Manger Hickman stated that the
volume of traffic on these streets does seem to help in
regards to the speed issue and traffic calming. Council
discussed Chief Cartnals knowledge of these concerns.
Manager Hickman stated that he is aware of most of these
concerns, and he will be at the October 20th Council
meeting if Council has further comments/questions for
him.

Councilmember Hartfield stated that the LSSU committee
also approved the banner designs, color, etc. for the
Bicentennial Commission. She stated that removable
brackets will be installed to hold the banner, when the
hangers are removed the brackets are not intrusive.

Councilmember Hartfield stated that the committee also
discussed a crosswalk on Newark-Granville Road. She
stated that many have commented on the danger of the
crosswalk and that additional signage will be installed to
warn pedestrians that traffic may not stop while they are
crossing. It was stated that the crosswalk is an attempt
to connect one bike path to another.

Planning Commission
Councilmember OKeefe stated that the committee discussed
the 116 East Broadway property. She stated that Pastor
Steve Cramer (Centenary United Methodist Church) and Ben
Rader attended the meeting to voice their concerns with
the proposed balcony. She stated that both gentlemen
stated that they want to be a good neighbor, but they have
concerns with parking, trash, and other things associated
with having a balcony. Councilmember OKeefe stated that
the balcony would be non-smoking. Councilmember OKeefe
stated that the architecture for the balcony was approved
with a screen on the east side. She stated that issue now
goes to the BZBA Board to address parking.

Councilmember OKeefe stated that there was much discussion
in regards to the Summit Street addition. She stated that
this matter was tabled.

Councilmember OKeefe stated that the committee discussed
the JEDD document. She stated that the committee
suggestions included seeking out light manufacturing
businesses that are non-polluting and low in noise. She
stated that some suggestions included a machine shop,
baker, growers, or any small business. She stated that
the committee stressed that service type businesses
shouldnt be the only types of businesses targeted.
Councilmember OKeefe stated that the committee would also
like to see the development to be a little more dense.
Councilmember OKeefe ended by saying that Chris Strayer,
Village Planner, would be emailing out minutes from the
meeting.

Planning & Zoning Committee
Councilmember Barsky stated that the committee discussed
the 1st Federal/116 E. Broadway property. She stated that
the committee has determined that the village does own the
land and that some type of lease agreement needs to be
created. She stated that Law Director Crites is working
with the property owner on this lease agreement.

Councilmember Hartfield asked if the committee has decided
to allow this. Councilmember Barsky stated yes. She
stated that the recommendation by the Planning and Zoning
Committee would come before Council. She stated that
Council would need to determine whether or not to approve
the lease agreement.

Councilmember Barsky stated that the committee is still
discussing sub division regulations.

Recreation Commission
Councilmember OKeefe stated that she did not attend the
last meeting, but does have the minutes. She stated that
the committee is considering a levy for 2005.
Councilmember OKeefe also updated Council on a previous
meeting where concerns were raised about the need to have
water and sewer at the Raccoon Valley playing field.
Councilmember OKeefe ended by saying that there has been
much growth with the Recreation Commission.

Mayor Robertson arrived at 8:14 pm.

Senior Committee
No Report.

Union Cemetery
Councilmember Main mentioned that there will be the annual
Halloween Walk-thru on October 28th.

OTHER COUNCIL MATTERS
Licking County Convention & Visitors Bureau
Mayor Robertson stated that she would serve as the liaison
to the Bureau.

Community Connection Meeting
Councilmember Barsky stated that there were four
developers represented at the last meeting (one on tape.)
She stated that there were discussions by these developers
that historically it has been difficult to develop in
Granville. She stated that the developers presented some
of their own histories. Councilmember Barsky stated that
some of the thoughts included Granville not being able to
ignore commercial development.

Councilmember Barsky stated that there were a number of
suggestions in regards to alleviating these types of
concerns, and they might be worth looking at. She went on
to say that there was a facilitator present at the meeting
who basically watched the time when each party spoke.
Councilmember Barsky stated that the meeting ended early
because two people who were supposed to be there, were
unable to attend. She stated that in her conversations
with Pat Moller, they both believed that they should have
had conversations with the chairs of the other sub-
committees. Councilmember Barsky stated that on October
18th there will be another meeting in a similar forum as
the last meeting. She stated that Keith Myers, Stephen
Fowler (Newark Economic Development), and Kimberly Gibson
(Mid-Ohio Regional Planning Commission) would be invited.
She stated that she and Ms. Moller will be structuring
questions for the October 18th meeting. Councilmember
Barsky stated that she will be meeting with the
facilitator on October 7th. She stated that as for the
$150 appropriation for the facilitator, Council agreed to
approve the expenditure if there was an agenda. She
stated that without an agenda, it would not be clear what
Council would be approving the funds for. Councilmember
Barsky stated that she still doesnt have an agenda.
Councilmember Barsky stated that Ms. Moller has contacted
Jerry Griffin and Clark Berdan in regards to having a
meeting so they could present some of their data. She
stated that she could envision the cost for the
facilitator to increase, if Mr. Griffin and Mr. Berdan
would like the facilitator present at the meeting for
forums that their sub committees plan. She stated that
she needs to talk with Ms. Moller to confirm this.
Councilmember Barsky stated that the rationale for having
a facilitator is due to a previous heated discussion where
the conversations went in different ways. She stated that
the facilitator does provide structure to the meetings.

Councilmember Main stated that he would favor paying for
the facilitator. He stated that it is not much money and
a facilitator would allow the meetings to be controlled
where you can avoid the kind of conversations
Councilmember Barsky was alluding to.

Councilmember OKeefe asked Councilmember Barsky if she was
saying that the facilitator allowed the meeting to be more
productive. Councilmember Barsky agreed.

Mayor Robertson stated that by the end of the meeting she
was surprised at some of the comments made by two of the
developers. She stated that she asked to speak with them
further, but neither one has moved to contact her. Mayor
Robertson stated that she was asked (at the last Council
meeting) to have a conversation with Pat Moller about the
facilitator fee. She stated that she sent several email
messages to Ms. Moller, but never received an email back
concerning the fee. Councilmember Hartfield asked if
Mayor Robertson received an email from Ms. Moller
indicating that she had personal plans to tend to. Mayor
Robertson stated that she did receive an email, but that
they never were able to discuss Council paying for a
facilitator.

Councilmember Main asked if there were minutes taken at
the meeting. Councilmember Barksy stated yes, but she
hadnt yet had a chance to get them to Council. She
stated that she would talk with Ms. Moller because she
believed that the facilitator has also gathered some
information she could pass on to Council.

Other
Councilmember Hartfield asked Manager Hickman if an EFP
meeting should be scheduled to discuss wage issues.
Manager Hickman stated yes, and that he would send out an
email to arrange a meeting.

Councilmember OKeefe noted the following meeting time:
Planning Commission October 11th

Councilmember Hartfield noted the following meeting time:
LSSU Committee October 29th 9:00 am.

ADJOURNMENT
   At 8:27 pm, Councilmember Main moved to adjourn
the meeting. Second by Councilmember OKeefe. Motion
carried, 6-0. Meeting adjourned.


Submitted by Melanie Schott

Council Minutes 9/15/04

GranvilleVillage — Mon, 23 Jan 2012 21:14:35 +0000

VILLAGE OF GRANVILLE
COUNCIL MINUTES
September 15, 2004

CALL TO ORDER (by Mayor Robertson at 7:30 pm)

PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE

ROLL CALL

   Those responding to the roll call were,
Councilmembers Hartfield, OKeefe, Herman, Vice Mayor
Lucier, and Mayor Robertson; Manager Hickman and Law
Director Crites. Motion carried.

Vice Mayor Lucier moved to excuse Councilmembers Barsky
and Main. Seconded by Councilmember OKeefe.

APPROVAL OF AGENDA (7:34 pm)
      Councilmember Herman moved to accept the agenda
as presented, seconded by Councilmember OKeefe. Motion
carried.

CITIZENS COMMENTS (7:34 pm)
   Mayor Robertson and Vice Mayor Lucier reported on
their recent trip to Granville, Massachusetts. They
passed out samples of cheese that was made there. Mayor
Robertson stated that there was a historic pageant that
Granville, Ohio was featured in. Vice Mayor Lucier stated
that the pageant showed reenactments of people from
Granville, Massachusetts saying goodbye to the people
migrating westward to Granville, Ohio. Mayor Robertson
stated that they were given a grand tour of Granville,
Massachusetts, which is quite large geographically, with
77 miles of road. Vice Mayor Lucier stated that apples
are a major crop there, and Mayor Robertson stated that
Granville, Massachusetts is a farming community of about
1500 people.

   No one else appeared to speak under Citizens
Comments.

   Mayor Robertson closed public comments at 7:43 pm.

PUBLIC HEARING (7:44 pm)
   Ordinance No. 22-04, An Ordinance To Amend Section
1189.10 Of The Codified Ordinances Of The Village Of
Granville, Ohio, To Create Uniform Regulations In the
Village Sign Code For Temporary Signs.

   Discussion: No one appeared to speak.

   Ordinance No. 23-04, An Ordinance Granting A Non-
Exclusive Franchise To Frontier Vision Operating Partners,
L.P. D/B/A Adelphia Cable Communications (The Grantee) To
Construct, Operate, And Maintain A Cable System In The
Village Of Granville, Ohio (The Grantor); Setting Forth
The Terms And Conditions Accompanying The Grant Of The
Franchise; And Providing For Regulation And Use Of The
System.

   Discussion: Jim Prentice, 211 Wicklow Drive, spoke
to Council in regards to cable television. Mr. Prentice
stated that cable television used to have safe television
shows for children to watch. He stated that he doesnt
believe this to be the case anymore. Mr. Prentice stated
that he believes Nickelodeon television is owned by
Viacom, who also owns MTV. He stated that he believes
Nickelodeon is attempting to graduate their audience to
watch MTV. He stated that he thinks it is a mistake to
call MTV music television because there is very little
music, but instead more reality type television shows.
Mr. Prentice stated that he and his wife feel there are
inappropriate promos and commercials during childrens
programs on cable television. He stated that page 9 of
the cable franchise agreement states that the cable
company must provide parental control options at a
reasonable cost to the consumer. He stated that he
purchased this option with his digital cable, but it does
not block out promos and commercials. He stated that it
does block out services like MTV, rated R or PG13
programming. Mr. Prentice stated that he has also heard
four letter words on CSPAN, and he remarked about an
incident that happened during the Superbowl half-time show
this year. Mr. Prentice stated that he has downgraded his
cable service to basic cable which costs $18.00 per
month. He stated he only turns on the weather and traffic
stations. He stated that he needs basic cable because the
neighborhood that he lives in doesnt allow a television
antenna. Mr. Prentice stated that he is going to work
with Village Planner, Chris Strayer, on where he might be
able to place a television antenna, and he hopes his
neighbors wont object. Mr. Prentice stated that it is
his gut instinct that the majority of people in Granville
want cable service. He stated that he just wanted to
voice in a public forum that not 100% of the people living
in Granville view cable television in a positive light.

Mr. Prentice inquired on the timeframe for the next
franchise agreement with Adelphia Cable. Law Director
Crites stated that the agreement being looked at does not
automatically renew, and it will be looked at again in
five years.

Councilmember OKeefe asked if Mr. Prentice knew of any
alternative cable companies. She stated that she does not
have cable service.   Mr. Prentice stated that he is not
aware of any, but believed any other choices would involve
a satellite or dish setup.

Eleanor Collin, East Broadway, spoke to Council in regards
to the Adelphia Cable franchise agreement. She first
asked what Mr. Prentice was proposing. She asked if he
was before Council to address whether or not he should be
allowed to have an antenna, and what did he want Council
to do. She asked if he was suggesting that Council not
renew the franchise agreement? Mr. Prentice stated that
the antenna permission would be a side issue and he would
see Mr. Strayer about that. Mayor Robertson asked Ms.
Collin and Mr. Prentice to address Council, rather than
each other. Ms. Collin inquired on Frontier Cable Company
and asked if they are buying Adelphia Cable. She stated
that she doesnt have children, but she also doesnt
understand Mr. Prentices statements. Ms. Collin stated
that she is interested in the franchise continuing because
she enjoys the music channels available with digital
television.

Mr. Prentice stated that he expects the franchise
agreement between Adelphia Cable and the Village of
Granville to continue. He stated that he wanted to say
that he is one person in the village who does not like
cable television. He stated that this is his best chance
to say something in a public forum.

Mayor Robertson stated that later on when the
representative from Adelphia Cable speaks, Mr. Prentice
and Ms. Collins questions/comments could be addressed.

NEW BUSINESS (7:58 pm)
   Resolution No. 04-57, A Resolution Adopting The
Council Decision And Findings And Conclusions Of Fact In
The Matter Of The Appeal Of Joan E. And Gilbert L. Krone
From The Decision Of The Planning Commission Of The
Village Of Granville was introduced by Councilmember
OKeefe. Second by Councilmember Herman.

Discussion: None.

   Motion carried (5-0). Resolution No. 04-57 is
adopted.

   Ordinance No. 24-04, An Ordinance Approving And
Adopting The Bail Bond And Guilty Waivers Schedule For The
Village Of Granville, Licking County, Ohio, was introduced
by Councilmember Herman. Second by Councilmember OKeefe.

Vice Mayor Lucier indicated that she had not received
Exhibit A in her packet. Other members of Council stated
that they too did not receive Exhibit A. Manager Hickman
stated that he would take care of getting Exhibit A to all
of Council.

Mayor Robertson scheduled the public hearing for October
6, 2004.

   Ordinance No. 25-04, An Ordinance To Amend
Ordinance No. 26-03 Providing For Adjustments Of The
Annual Budget For The Fiscal Year 2004 And Revising Sums
For Operating Expenses, was introduced by Councilmember
OKeefe. Second by Councilmember
Herman.

Mayor Robertson scheduled the public hearing for October
6, 2004.

OLD BUSINESS
   Ordinance No. 22-04, An Ordinance To Amend Section
1189.10 Of The Codified Ordinances Of The Village Of
Granville, Ohio, To Create Uniform Regulations In the
Village Sign Code For Temporary Signs was reintroduced by
Vice Mayor Lucier. Second by Councilmember OKeefe.

Discussion: Councilmember OKeefe stated that there is a
typo on the second page four lines from the bottom. She
stated that it should read shall be placed within fifteen
feet.

Vice Mayor Lucier stated that the old sign Ordinance had a
distinction between political signs and election signs.
She stated that the new Ordinance seems to put these types
of signs in the same category. Vice Mayor Lucier asked if
there are any limits on how long a sign, not connected to
an election, can stay up? Law Director Crites stated that
election signs would need to come down within ten days of
an election. He stated that the other types of political
signs Vice Mayor Lucier is referring to would fall in the
thirty day category.

She asked if a sign placed in front of a home that is
being painted is considered a temporary sign. Law
Director Crites read aloud Section 1189.03 in regards to
temporary signs. The section stated that temporary signs
are signs that are used temporarily and are not
permanently mounted. Law Director Crites stated that he
believes it would be considered a temporary sign, but he
would need to further investigate this information for
Vice Mayor Lucier.

Vice Mayor Lucier asked what time restrictions there are
on signs advertising commercial services? Law Director
Crites stated that if we assume these types of signs are
temporary, it can be left up for thirty days unless
damaged or deteriorated. Vice Mayor Lucier asked what
would happen if the sign is not damaged or deteriorated
can the sign stay up longer? She asked if there were any
restrictions on the amount of time this kind of sign can
be permitted. Manager Hickman asked Vice Mayor Lucier if
she was asking that temporary signs for commercial
services should have a time restriction? He later
suggested that Council might want to look at making a
restriction.

Vice Mayor Lucier stated that signs advertising for
commercial services, such as a house getting painted, are
not approved by the Planning Commission. She stated that
the code does not specify time restrictions for these
types of signs. Councilmember Hartfield stated that it
would be ridiculous to get approval for placing a sign in
front of someones house when it is getting painted. Vice
Mayor Lucier stated that she was not saying that people
should get approval, but there is nothing in the code
suggesting how long this type of sign can stay up.

Manager Hickman stated that the code could state that
contractor signs should not be up no more than thirty
days. Councilmember Hartfield asked what if someone is
working on a house for six months? She stated that many
people use these signs for advertising what kind of work
they do.

Law Director Crites stated that the areas being discussed
by Council were not reviewed. He stated that his purpose
(for Ordinance 22-04) was to look at the election signs
and their constitutionality. He stated that he would be
happy to further look into these comments made in regards
to temporary signs. He urged Council to pass the
Ordinance and stated he would further research the
questions raised by Vice Mayor Lucier.

Mayor Robertson stated that realtor signs needs to be
approved by the Planning Commission one time, and then
they are free to place all of their signs wherever. She
stated that perhaps this type of situation (commercial
service signs) would fall under the same category.

Vice Mayor Lucier stated that she appreciated Law Director
Crites looking at the free speech issue and preparing
Ordinance 22-04, and she whole-heartedly agrees with the
conclusion.

Roll call vote: Lucier, OKeefe, Robertson, Hartfield,
Herman. (5-0)

Ordinance No. 22-04 is adopted.

Mayor Robertson stated that with the adoption of Ordinance
No. 22-04, the Village is now considered to
be Constitutional in this area.

   Ordinance No. 23-04, An Ordinance Granting A Non-
Exclusive Franchise To Frontier Vision Operating Partners,
L.P. D/B/A Adelphia Cable Communications (The Grantee) To
Construct, Operate, And Maintain A Cable System In The
Village Of Granville, Ohio (The Grantor); Setting Forth
The Terms And Conditions Accompanying The Grant Of The
Franchise; And Providing For Regulation And Use Of The
System.

Discussion: Rick Whaley, General Manager for Adelphia
Cable, spoke to Council in regards to the franchise
agreement. He stated that Adelphia Cable bought Frontier
Vision five years ago, and they do business as Adelphia
Cable. Mr. Whaley stated that the legal entity name
is Frontier Vision Cable. Mr. Whaley stated that it is
up to all of us to monitor what our children see on cable
television. He suggested that Mr. Prentice should write
to the FCC about his concerns. Mr. Whaley stated that
cable companies are required to provide parental control
devices, and that these devices do not allow you to block
out promos or commercials. He stated that commercials pay
for the programming and this is up to the owner of the
program, not the cable company. Mr. Whaley stated that
there really is no such thing as live television since
the Superbowl incident earlier this year. He stated that
all live television is required by the FCC to have a six
second delay. Vice Mayor Lucier inquired on the
technology to block out programming.   Mr. Whaley stated
that it is only available with digital cable and it will
block out PG 13 and R rated programming. He stated that
it can also block out an entire program, but not
commercials or promos.

Mayor Robertson inquired on the franchise fee, and asked
if Granville was receiving money? Manager Hickman stated
that Granville does not charge a franchise fee. Mr.
Whaley stated that there is an option to have 5% of the
money come back to the village. Vice Mayor Lucier asked
if there is a 5% reduction to customers since Granville is
waiving this 5% fee. Mr. Whaley stated that if Granville
wanted the fee, it would be an additional 5% on the cable
bill, and it would range from $.95 to $1.25 per customer.
Councilmember OKeefe asked if it was customary for
municipalities to waive the fee. Mr. Whaley stated that
about 25% - 30% of the municipalities charge a 5% fee. He
stated that most of these areas have always charged a fee,
and they rarely see new fees instituted.

Mr. Whaley commended Law Director Crites on his
negotiating skills and work on this franchise agreement.
Vice Mayor Lucier inquired on what successes Law Director
Crites had in negotiations. Law Director Crites explained
that he is still in negotiations with Adelphia Cable, and
he would be happy to share more information after they
have closed the agreement. Mr. Whaley stated that the
agreement began as a twenty year agreement, but after
negotiations with Mr. Crites, it is now a five year
agreement. He stated that another change includes
Adelphia Cable providing notification to the Village if
they plan to do any tree trimming. Mr. Whaley stated that
90% of cable line trimming is done by the power companies,
and not by Adelphia Cable. Mr. Whaley stated that a new
section will be added to the agreement which will allow
for periodic annual reviews to be reported back to
Council.

Mayor Robertson inquired on whether or not public
buildings receive free cable service. Mr. Whaley stated
that all public buildings can receive free cable service,
including township buildings, schools, and the Village
fire and police. Councilmember OKeefe asked if the free
cable service is the same service received in homes. Mr.
Whaley stated yes. It was stated that Mr. Prentices
concerns in regards to cable programming could pertain to
the cable being shown at the schools, and that he could
contact the Board of Education in this matter.

Councilmember Herman inquired on what lines of business
the cable companies support. Mr. Whaley stated cable
television service, digital cable service, hi-definition
cable service, and high speed internet. Councilmember
Herman asked if they foresee any additional types of
services being offered. Mr. Whaley stated video on demand
and DVR (similar to Tivo) will be available in the
future.

Vice Mayor Lucier asked if you need to subscribe to the
free services offered into public buildings. Mr. Whaley
stated that high speed internet service is not included at
a free charge, but basic cable service is.

Councilmember Herman made a motion to table Ordinance No.
23-04 pending further review and the attendance of
tonights absent Councilmembers. Seconded by
Councilmember OKeefe.

Ordinance No. 23-04 is tabled.

REVIEW OF MINUTES
Regularly Scheduled Meeting of September 1, 2004
Councilmember Herman moved to accept the minutes as
amended; seconded by Councilmember OKeefe. Motion
carried, 5-0.

MAYORS COURT REPORT June
The Mayors Court Report for the month of June was
presented for review for a second time. Council had asked
for further explanation on an area with blank
information. Manager Hickman stated that these blank
areas should contain zeros.

Council unanimously voted to accept the Mayors Court
Report for the month of June.

Mayor Robertson instructed the report be filed with the
Clerk. A copy of the said report is included as part of
these Minutes.

MAYORS COURT REPORT July and August
The Mayors Court Reports for the months of July and
August were presented for review.

Discussion: Chief Cartnal was in attendance to address any
comments/concerns Council might have.

Vice Mayor Lucier thanked Chief Cartnal for enforcing
the no parking on a sidewalk/curb lawn. She stated that
she noticed an increase in citations for the month of
August.

Councilmember OKeefe inquired in the increase in drug use
and drug paraphernalia charges. She asked if this was a
result of Denison being back in session. Chief Cartnal
stated that these are not related to Denison and they are
unfortunately periodic occurrences.

Councilmember Hartfield moved to accept the July and
August reports; seconded by Councilmember Herman. Motion
carried 5-0.

   Mayor Robertson instructed that the reports be
filed with the Clerk. A copy of the said reports are
included as part of these Minutes.

MANAGERS REPORT August
The Managers Report for the month of August was presented
for review.

Discussion: Chief Cartnal stated that he was made aware
by Manager Hickman that Council was concerned about
increases in crime and how this information is tracked and
reported back to Council. He stated that the FBI requires
him to turn in a Uniform Crime Report, which he provided
for Council. He stated that this report tracks
burglaries, robberies, rapes, and murders. He stated that
it does not include traffic type incidents, or underage
consumption of alcohol.

Chief Cartnal stated that there is an error in the
Managers Report. He stated that the mileage for the
Taurus should not read 4000 miles, but instead zero
miles. He stated this would also change the total mileage
for the month of August.

Vice Mayor Lucier stated that about ten years ago
universities were told that their crime statistics needed
to be publicized. She asked if Chief Cartnals numbers
include the Denison University statistics. Chief Cartnal
stated that Denison is required to report any felonies
back to them.

Councilmember Herman stated that he has noticed a decrease
in the number of home burglaries. Chief Cartnal stated
that this is true, but he has however noticed an increase
in car break-ins. Mayor Robertson stated that all of the
numbers (all incidences) in Chief Cartnals report are
under ten for the entire year. It was stated that many
incidences show a zero.

Chief Cartnal distributed a sheet depicting the types of
calls coming into the police department. He indicated
that several things like road rage incidents and reckless
motorist calls are rising and this was not the case five
or six years ago. He stated that the availability of cell
phones may be a reason why more of these types of calls
are coming in.

Chief Cartnal also stated that domestic disputes on the
graph depict a sharp increase for 2002. He stated there
were 41 incidents, and that this is double any other
year. He wondered if this rise can be attributed to the
economy at that time and 9/11.

Mayor Robertson inquired on the increase in parking
complaints from 1999 to 2000. Chief Cartnal stated that
parking permits were distributed at that time for
particular residents on Burg Street. He stated that the
police did not enforce the parking permits, unless asked
to by the residents. Chief Cartnal stated that this
increase is a result of calls coming from those
residents.

Councilmember Hartfield inquired on the parking lot
phenomenon near Napa Auto Parts. Chief Cartnal stated
that he was contacted by the property owner and was aware
that this has become a gathering place for young people.
He stated that the property owner did talk to people
gathering at his business, and explained that he didnt
have a problem with them being there if they would not
leave trash on the premises. Chief Cartnal stated that
after three days, the trash problem was not cleaned up,
and actually got worse. He stated that at the request of
the property owner, the police are asking people not to
gather in this location.

Vice Mayor Lucier stated that this information is very
helpful and she thanked Chief Cartnal for his work.

Vice Mayor Lucier moved to accept the August report;
seconded by Councilmember Hartfield. Motion carried 5-0.

   Mayor Robertson instructed the report be filed
with the Clerk. A copy of said report is included as part
of these Minutes.

COMMITTEE REPORTS

Economic, Finance, Personnel Committee (EFP) Hartfield,
Herman, Lucier
Councilmember Herman stated that the committee is looking
at some personnel issues in regards to raises, and the
administration has been asked to run some different
scenarios and report back as soon as possible. He went on
to say that they are also looking at some possible
provisions in the managers contract.

Councilmember Herman commended Molly Roberts for being
extraordinary successful in her ability to acquire health
care coverage for village employees at the same premium
rate of last year with the same coverage benefits and
providers.

Councilmember Herman stated that there will be some
upcoming discussions with Adelphia Cable.

Councilmember Herman reminded Council that there will be a
September 29th meeting with River Road property owners in
regards to a possible annexation. The meeting will be at
Earl Shurtz business on Main Street.

Light, Safety, Sts/Sidewalks, Utility Committee (LSSU)
Lucier, Hartfield, Main
No Report

Planning Commission OKeefe
Councilmember OKeefe stated that discussions on 116 East
Broadway were tabled until the boundaries are further
discussed/researched. She stated that the issue of part
of the changes being located on village property will be
discussed in the Planning and Zoning Committee on
September 23, 04. Vice Mayor Lucier asked if this issue
will come before Council. Councilmember OKeefe stated
that it will eventually come before Council, but will
first go to the Planning and Zoning Committee.

Councilmember OKeefe stated that the Planning Commission
will have discussions concerning the JEDD at their next
meeting.

Planning & Zoning Committee (P&Z) Barsky, OKeefe,
Robertson
No Report

Senior Committee Robertson
No Report

Union Cemetery Main
No Report

OTHER COUNCIL MATTERS

Licking County Convention & Visitors Bureau
Mayor Robertson stated that the bureau is seeking a member
of Council to serve on the committee. She asked for
anyone interested to let her know. She stated that the
committee will meet one time per month and when
Councilmember OKeefe asked what time she stated she
believed it would be around 9:30am. Mayor Robertson
stated that the letter of request asked to have
nominations in by September 15th, but she was sure they
would be happy to get any nominations, even late ones.
Councilmember Herman stated that he thought (by the sound
of the letter) that the bureau was seeking individuals
from certain areas. Mayor Robertson stated that through
her conversations with Marcia Phelps, she felt that a
member of Council would be appropriate. It was stated
that the Mayors from Heath and Newark attend the
meetings. Mayor Robertson asked for this issue to be
placed on the agenda for the next Council meeting.

Community Connections Facilitator
It was stated that the meeting will be September 27th,
04. Councilmember OKeefe stated that the Planning
Commission also meets on the 27th, so she will not be able
to make the meeting. Councilmember Herman stated that he
would not be able to make the meeting, but he thought
Councilmember Barsky could. Councilmember Herman stated
that the Village, Township, Chamber of Commerce, and
Schools were all asked to be represented at the Community
Connection meeting. Councilmember OKeefe asked if there
were minutes from the meeting. Councilmember Herman
stated that he did not have any detailed information. He
stated that he was unsure what the agenda of the next
upcoming meeting would be. He stated that he had not had
an opportunity to check his email that evening, and there
could be an email pertaining to the meeting agenda.
Councilmember Herman stated that he was not sure if this
meeting was going to be a follow-up to a previous meeting
that Councilmember Barsky had attended. He stated that he
was not able to be there, but he was told that several
people with interests in areas of development were asked
to attend. He stated that there has been some discussion
about forming panels, but he is not sure what roles they
would play, or who would be asked to serve on them.

Mayor Robertson stated that she too was not aware of the
content of the September 27th meeting, and that she did
had a conversation with Pat Moller. Council referred to a
$600 fee for a facilitator at the meeting, and that
Council was being asked to contribute $150 as their
contribution for the facilitator. She stated that she was
told by Ms. Moller that the $600 fee used to pay the
facilitator would be for six hours of work, and that this
work would not just include the meeting time. She stated
that she was told that there would also need to be some
preparation work done. Mayor Robertson stated that she
feels it would be wise for the facilitator to meet with
each of the four entities (Village, Township, Chamber of
Commerce, and School District).

Councilmember OKeefe asked if there was a formal request
for the village to make a contribution for the
facilitator. Councilmember Herman stated that he and
Councilmember Barsky were emailed.

Councilmember Hartfield stated that she could ask Pat
Moller to send an outline to all Council members.

Councilmember Herman stated that he saw two issues. The
first was the payment for the facilitator, and the second
was what will be taking place at the meeting.

Vice Mayor Lucier stated that she does have concerns with
what will happen at the meeting. She stated that she did
attend the second big meeting, where three committees were
formed. The first was Commercial Development, the second
was Residential Control/Development, and the third Data.
She stated that she would have some reservations paying
for a facilitator if the input from these three committees
is not included. She stated that the committee she was on
did a good deal of work on commercial development and some
of the difficulties associated with commercial
development, and she didnt want to see this aspect not be
included. Councilmember OKeefe stated that she agreed
with Vice Mayor Lucier, and that the facilitator should
contact all four entities, as well as each of the three
sub-committees.

Mayor Robertson suggested that perhaps Council could
approve the expenditure pending further explanation of the
concerns raised by Council. She stated that she would not
have a problem appropriating more money if it meant the
facilitator would meet with representatives from Council,
as well as the other groups and sub-committees.

Councilmember OKeefe asked if there was a title to the
meeting. Councilmember Herman stated that she has seen
all of the information he has, and to his knowledge there
isnt a title. Mayor Robertson stated that all of the
information received by Council isnt really an
explanation of the meeting. Councilmember OKeefe asked if
someone could go back to Ms. Moller and get further
information on these concerns raised by Council.
Councilmember Herman stated that there could be an agenda,
that he just hasnt received. Mayor Robertson stated that
she has been copied on emails coming from Councilmember
Herman, but she has not received any emails from Pat
Moller.

Councilmember Herman stated that he was not sure what the
goal of the facilitator is. He stated that he wants to be
supportive, but he senses some process concerns and
wonders what exactly Council would be buying. He
suggested approving the expenditure as long as an agenda
is provided and some ground work is done before the
meeting on the 27th. He stated that it appears Council is
in agreement that they would like the facilitator to meet
with a representative from Council, as well as have
discussion/input from someone that was on each of the sub-
committees before the September 27th meeting.
Councilmember Herman stated that he would be willing to
contact Ms. Moller the following day with the concerns
raised by Council.

Vice Mayor Lucier stated that she would not be supportive
of this because she fears the September 27th meeting could
be an attempt to move the commercial development issue
forward, while excluding input from other sub-committees.
She stated that there is not enough time for the
facilitator to do a thorough job and meet with all of the
entities and sub-committees. Councilmember OKeefe
agreed.

Councilmember Hartfield stated that it would be wise to
not jump to conclusions. She stated that Council is not
sure what the agenda for the meeting is.

Mayor Robertson agreed with Councilmember Hartifield. She
stated that Council needs to go into this with a positive
attitude about what is being planned, but they do need to
be aware of what it is that is being planned. She stated
that she would be satisfied, personally, if the
facilitator does his homework and we have an agenda before
the meeting.

Councilmember Herman stated that he would be less
comfortable contacting Pat Moller with no consensus from
Council. He suggested that Mayor Robertson should do the
contacting. Mayor Robertson stated that she would have a
conversation with Ms. Moller and let her know of Councils
concerns, but she would still need the authority from
Council to appropriate the money. Manager Hickman stated
that the funds are available and a requisition could be
made out at any time. He stated that he is not worried
about the appropriation, but more that Council is in
agreement. Mayor Robertson stated that she could contact
Ms. Moller and let her know that a majority of Council
would be supportive of appropriating the money if the said
list of things happen, and Council would not be supportive
of spending the money for the facilitator if these things
dont happen. Mayor Robertson stated that when she
contacts Ms. Moller, she needs to know she is backed by
this Council.

Councilmember Herman stated that he would like to see an
agenda and what the goals for the meeting are, and he
would then support spending the fee for the facilitator.

Vice Mayor Lucier stated that she would support the
contribution to hire a facilitator if the meeting would
include information from all three sub-committees, and not
just focus on commercial development.

Councilmember Hartfield stated that she felt people were
jumping to conclusions and it is important to remember why
the Community Connection Committee was started. She
stated that Council should stay in the spirit that this
started for the good will of the community.

Mayor Robertson stated that she will make Pat Moller aware
of several concerns she is hearing from this Council. The
first is an agenda with a goal stated, representation from
all three sub-committees, and having the facilitator do
some preliminary work with these sub-committees.

Councilmember OKeefe stated that Council doesnt want to
give ultimatums, but to make their concerns heard.

Vice Mayor Lucier stated that there is no point is having
these other sub-committees if their input isnt counted.

Manager Hickman ended by saying the money is available in
an account and a requisition could be made out.

ADJOURNMENT (9:26 pm)
   Councilmember OKeefe moved to adjourn. Second by
Hartfield.    Motion carried, 5-0. Meeting adjourned.



Submitted by Melanie Schott

Council Minutes 9/1/04

GranvilleVillage — Mon, 23 Jan 2012 20:42:27 +0000

VILLAGE OF GRANVILLE
COUNCIL MINUTES
September 1, 2004

CALL TO ORDER (by Mayor Robertson at 7:33 pm)

PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE

ROLL CALL
   Those responding to the roll call were
Councilmembers Barsky, Hartfield, Herman, Main, OKeefe,
Vice Mayor Lucier and Mayor Robertson. Law Director
Crites and Manager Hickman.

APPROVAL OF AGENDA (7:34 pm)
   Mayor Robertson moved to add Senior Committee
(Item 11) under Committee Reports (Item 11G) on the
agenda. Councilmember Herman moved to accept the agenda
as amended. Seconded by Councilmember Hartfield.

CITIZENS COMMENTS (7:35 pm)
Jodi Weaver-Chiles, 2591 North Street, Bicentennial
Commission spoke in regards to banners the Bicentennial
Commission proposes to place on light posts in Granville.
She stated that she has been working with Village Planner,
Chris Strayer, and they would like to put the banners on
two light posts at the corner of Broadway and Prospect, as
well as two posts on Main and Broadway. Ms. Chiles stated
that each light post within those two perimeters would
also have a banner. Ms. Chiles stated that the banner
would be held up by removable brackets attached to the
light posts, and it would be possible to put various other
banners on the same brackets. She stated that the
brackets would remain on the posts, but they are also
removable. Councilmember Barsky inquired on the cost of
the banners. Ms. Chiles stated that it depends on several
variables. She stated that it would depend if the banners
are printed on both sides, and if they are made of nylon
or polyester. Ms. Chiles estimated the cost to be
somewhere around $100 - $150 for double-sided banners.
Vice Mayor Lucier stated that she was aware of several
businesses off of Prospect and Main streets that would
like to have banners placed on light posts near their
businesses. Ms. Chiles stated that Mr. Strayer had
suggested a more even look since some of the light posts
in these areas seemed to be sporadic. She stated that
some of the trees on Main street may hinder the visibility
of the banner. Ms. Chiles agreed that she would be
willing to look into the possibility of placing banners on
Prospect and Main streets. When Ms. Chiles was asked what
her timeframe was, she stated that she would like to have
the banners up for the Christmas season; She estimated six
weeks. Vice Mayor Lucier stated that she really liked the
Bicentennial Commissions proposal. Other members of
Council agreed. Council agreed to send the proposal to
the LSSU committee for review at their October 1st
meeting. Ms. Chiles stated that if any member of Council
has suggestions for a particular background color, please
let her know. Council recommended something that is
consistent with the rest of the architecture in the
Village.

Mayor Robertson moved to temporarily close citizens
comments at 7:46 pm.

PUBLIC HEARING
   Ordinance No. 20-04, An Ordinance To Amend
Sections 331.12 Of The Codified Ordinances Of The Village
Of Granville.

   No one appeared to speak for or against Ordinance
No. 20-04. Mayor Robertson closed the public hearing at
7:47 pm.

NEW BUSINESS (7:48 pm)

Ordinance No. 22-04, An Ordinance To Amend Section 1189.10
Of The Codified Ordinances Of The Village of Granville,
Ohio, To Create Uniform Regulations In the Village Sign
Code for Temporary Signs was introduced by Vice Mayor
Lucier. Second by Councilmember OKeefe.

Mayor Robertson set the public hearing on Ordinance No. 22-
04 for September 15, 2004.

   Ordinance No. 23-04, An Ordinance Granting A Non-
Exclusive Franchise To FrontierVision Operating Partners,
L.P. D/B/A Adelphia Cable Communications (The Grantee( To
Construct, Operate, And Maintain A Cable System In The
Village Of Granville, Ohio (The Grantor); Setting Forth
The Terms And Conditions Accompanying The Grant Of The
Franchise; And Providing For Regulation And Use Of The
System was introduced by Councilmember Hartfield.
Seconded by Councilmember Main.

Discussion: Law Director Crites stated that this is
a redline version. He stated that a member from
Adelphia Cable will be present at the next Council meeting
to further discuss this issue.

Mayor Robertson set the public hearing on Ordinance No. 23-
04 for September 15, 2004.

RETURN TO CITIZENS COMMENTS (7:53 pm)

Bicentennial Clock Douglas Barno, 2635 Old Columbus
Road, spoke to Council in regards to a proposed civic
improvement project. Mr. Barno stated that the Rotary
Club would like to donate a pedestal clock to the Village
of Granville for the upcoming Bicentennial celebrations.
He stated that the clock would be nothing short of
magnificent, and would stand eleven feet tall and be in
the colonial style. He stated that the clock would have
etchings saying Village of Granville and Est. 1805.
Mr. Barno stated that the clock would be double-sided and
also would be illuminated. He stated that the clock would
go with the architecture of the Village and be a forest
green color with gold highlights. Mr. Barno stated that
the clock would have a quiet, but noticeable chime. He
went on to say that the clock would be capable of
resetting itself in the case of a power outage, and it
would be electrically controlled. Mr. Barno stated that
the Rotary Club proposes to donate the clock, while the
Village would be responsible for the maintenance and some
preparation for installation.

James Opeka, 293 Fern Hill, helped to answer some
questions by Council. He stated that the clock would be
two sided and look exactly the same on both sides.
Councilmember Herman asked if the chimes could be turned
off. Mr. Opeka stated yes. Mr. Opeka stated that the
location for the clock was partially selected because the
Chamber of Commerce has previously discussed locating a
kiosk in Alltel Park. Manager Hickman stated that any
kiosk approval would need to come from Alltel. Mr. Barno
stated that the clocks mechanisms have a one year
warranty. He stated that an extended warranty is
available, and the Rotary would be willing to pay for
this. Councilmember Herman asked what might happen if the
clock breaks ten years from now; He asked who would be
responsible for fixing the clock. Mr. Barno stated that
the Rotary would stand behind that type of situation. Mr.
Opeka stated that the approval by Council is needed ASAP
since they would like to have the clock in place by New
Years Eve, and the order lead-time is 90 days. Council
discussed the location of the clock. Councilmember Barsky
asked if the awning would interfere. Manager Hickman
checked and stated no. Manager Hickman stated that after
discussions with Mr. Barno and Mr. Opeka he is convinced
this is the best location for the clock. Mayor Robertson
asked members of Council if they would have any objections
to voting on this matter tonight. Council had no
objection.

Councilmember OKeefe moved to accept the donation of a
clock by the Rotary Club. Second by Councilmember
Hartfield. Council unanimously voted to accept the
donation of the clock by the Rotary Club.

Mr. Barno and Mr. Opeka thanked Council and stated that
they would be ordering the clock the following day. Mr.
Barnum also stated that if the Rotary Club can help with
various projects in the community, to please let him
know. He stated that they are also working on another
project for Granvilles Bicentennial to place two softball
diamonds at Raccoon Valley Park at a cost of $40,000.
Council thanked Mr. Barno for his offer.

Mayor Robertson moved to close citizens comments at 8:06
pm.

EXECUTIVE SESSION

                       Councilmember Main moved to enter
into Executive Session, Pursuant to Ohio Revised Code
Section 121.22 (G)(3), for the purpose of conferencing
with an attorney for the public body concerning disputes
involving the public body that are the subject of imminent
court action (118 S. Main Street). Second by Vice Mayor
Lucier.

Roll Call vote: Hartfield, Herman, Lucier, Main, OKeefe,
Robertson, Barsky (7-0).

Time In: 8:07 pm.

Councilmember Herman moved to adjourn Executive Session.
Seconded by Councilmember Barsky.

Roll Call vote: Lucier, Robertson, Main, OKeefe, Herman,
Hartfield, Barsky (7-0).

Time Out: 8:36 pm.

RETURN TO REMAINING NEW BUSINESS (8:37 pm)
   Ordinance No. 21-04, An Ordinance To Authorize The
Village Manager To Execute A Lease Agreement For The
Property Located At 118 South Main Street For A Sixty
Three Day Period And To Declare An Emergency was
introduced by Councilmember Main. Second by Councilmember
Hartfield.

Councilmember Main moved to declare Ordinance No. 21-04 as
an emergency. Second by Councilmember Herman.

Roll call vote on Emergency for Ordinance No. 21-04:
Herman, Lucier (no), Main, OKeefe, Robertson, Barsky,
Hartfield (6-1).

Roll call vote on Ordinance No. 21-04: Hartfield, Barsky,
Robertson, OKeefe, Main, Lucier (no), Herman (6-1).

Ordinance No. 21-04 is adopted.


OLD BUSINESS
   Ordinance No. 20-04, An Ordinance To Amend
Sections 331.12 Of The Codified Ordinances Of The Village
Of Granville was reintroduced by Councilmember Barsky.
Second by Vice Mayor Lucier.

Discussion: Councilmember OKeefe asked if Ordinance No.
20-04 should be publicized. Manager Hickman agreed.
Mayor Robertson asked if there has been any discussion on
signs saying No U-Turn. Manager Hickman stated that
additional signage could be used, however it would be his
preference to not clutter the downtown area with
additional signs. Council stated that the double yellow
lines should indicate that no u-turns are allowed.

Roll Call: Hartfield, Main, Lucier, Robertson, Barsky,
Herman, OKeefe (7-0).

REVIEW OF MINUTES
Regularly Scheduled Meeting of August 18, 2004
Councilmember Barsky moved to accept the minutes as
amended. Second by Councilmember Herman. Motion carried,
7-0.

COMMITTEE REPORTS
Economic, Finance, Personnel Committee
Councilmember Herman made several grammatical changes to
the committee meeting minutes. Councilmember Herman
stated that there has been discussions to gauge interest
by landowners on River Road of a possible annexation by
the Village. He stated that the game plan is to send
invitations to the landowners to attend a September 29th
discussion at 7:30 pm. Councilmember Herman stated that
he would like members of Council to attend, including
Mayor Robertson. The meeting will be held at Earl
Shurtzs building. Council asked if Mr. Shurtz is aware
that this would be a public meeting. Manager Hickman
stated yes.

Councilmember Herman stated that Molly Roberts has made
him aware of several personnel issues that need to be
discussed at their next meeting.

Light, Safety, Sts/Sidewalks & Utility Committee
Councilmember Hartfield stated that the next meeting will
be October 1, 04.

Planning Commission
Councilmember OKeefe stated that several sidewalk signs
were approved.

Councilmember OKeefe stated that directional signs were
also discussed. She stated that the committee viewed
examples of directional signs at Easton. Councilmember
OKeefe stated that the Chamber of Commerce would like for
the village to fund directional signs, and they would then
support an Ordinance to ban sandwich signs.

Councilmember OKeefe stated Nick and Melanie Schott had a
work session with the committee to discuss the possibility
of rezoning an area currently zoned Residential on South
Main Street/Munson Street for the purposes of installing
an automatic carwash. She stated that the committee had
concerns with spot zoning, as well as concerns with
traffic and neighbors. She stated that the committee
members indicated that they might be more supportive of
the idea if there was positive feedback and support from
neighbors in that area.

Councilmember OKeefe stated that the committee wants to
further discuss the JEDD document at their next meeting.
She stated that the committee wanted to know the vision of
the JEDD in terms of types of businesses sought. She
stated that they asked about light manufacturing and
whether or not it would be permitted. Councilmember
Barsky (who was also at the meeting) stated that she urged
the committee to write down their questions, as well as
provide any feedback. She added that the Township
Trustees are reviewing the JEDD document in their planning
committee and they should have comments back to her
sometime this month.

Planning & Zoning Committee
Councilmember Barsky stated that a survey was requested
for 116 East Broadway to reaffirm where the boundaries
are. She stated that the committee is reviewing sub-
division regulation changes proposed by Village Planner,
Chris Strayer. Councilmember Barsky asked Manager Hickman
to check with Doyle Clear and make sure he is aware of
future meeting times.

Recreation Commission
No Report.

Union Cemetery
No Report.

Senior Committee
Mayor Robertson stated that she met with a representative
from National Church Residences, Trudy Knox, and Bill
Wernet. She stated that it has been the Senior
Committees intent to help alleviate the problem of older
people feeling as though they have to move out of
Granville due to inadequate housing options. She stated
that they looked at several possible areas that could have
buildings on them, including the back area of the Bryn Du
property. Vice Mayor Lucier asked if this is a religious
organization. Mayor Robertson stated that they are non-
denominational, and the types of facilities they build are
not considered to be assisted living. Mayor Robertson
stated that National Church Residences builds all types of
housing with various options. She stated that they have
done some recent projects in the Columbus area. Mayor
Robertson stated that they have also built nursing homes.
Vice Mayor Lucier asked if they have looked at the
Granville Solvents Plant. Mayor Robertson stated that
they did not look at that particular area.

OTHER COUNCIL MATTERS
Senior Foundation
Law Director Crites stated that a proposal to fund the
start up costs for a 501C3 to establish a Senior
Foundation came in from Trudy Knox. He stated that he was
asked to research whether or not it would be permissible
to use public funds for this expenditure. He stated that
it is his opinion that this particular matter would not be
permissible because it does not extend services, but
instead the funds apply to the start up costs.

Granville Solvents Update
Manager Hickman stated that the area has been named clean
and safe by the Ohio EPA. He stated that there are eight
entities that own the property zoned in the Commercial
Service District. Manager Hickman stated that due to the
high costs to alleviate the problems, there are several
liens on the property and back taxes are due. Manager
Hickman stated that he was contacted (by letter) on issues
involving the redevelopment of the property. Council was
unclear as to what role they might play. Manager Hickman
stated that it might be possible to use US EPA and Clean
Ohio funds, as long as the funds are used for beneficial
improvements of the property. Council discussed rezoning
possibilities associated with the property. Vice Mayor
Lucier stated that it would not be permissible to rezone
the property and make it less valuable. Councilmember
Hartfield stated that she didnt feel Council should have
anything to do with the property due to the liens and
legal issues. She wondered if the liens would carry over
if the property were acquired by the Village. Manager
Hickman agreed to check on the liens associated with the
property, as well as have the Granville Solvents
representative speak to Council at a future Council
meeting.

Trick or Treat
Thursday, October 28th from 5:30-7:00. It was noted that
Heath City Trick or Treat will be held on the same night.

Other
Vice Mayor Lucier asked to have minutes from the Planning
Commission and BZBA meetings emailed to Council after each
meeting. Manager Hickman stated he would take care of the
minutes getting emailed.

Councilmember OKeefe stated that there will be a meeting
with Lyn Straker, Jim Havens, and Jay Hottinger attending
to discuss issues facing our schools regarding municipal
and school boundaries.

Mayor Robertson stated that she attended the Community
Meeting at the Davis-Shai house. She stated that the city
of Heath was quite cordial, and much can be learned on the
restoration project they did at the Davis-Shai house in
regards to the Bryn Du Mansion. She stated that Granville
will host the next Community Meeting on November 29, 04.

Mayor Robertson stated that she attended the Newark
Planning Commission meeting by invitation of Mayor Bain.
She distributed copies of a letter she read aloud at the
meeting regarding the Thornwood rezoning issue. Mayor
Robertson stated that the Newark service director argued
against the changing of zoning in this area.

Mayor Robertson stated that she and Manager Hickman met
with a colleague of Councilmember Barskys, Steve Millet,
to discuss strategic planning. Councilmember Barsky also
attended the meeting. Mayor Robertson stated that Mr.
Millet will be conducting a ½ day workshop with some of
the village staff to further address strategic planning
and budgeting. The workshop will be on October 20, 04.
She stated that Mr. Millet will be paid the Battelle
consulting rate for a half day of work, and he is then
willing to work pro bono with the Council in the evening
hours. Councilmember Herman inquired on the content and
process of the October 20th meeting. He stated that it
was his understanding that there would be some strategic
indicators. Councilmember Barsky stated that they would
be building on the comprehensive plan review and not
redoing work that has already been done. She stated that
they will analyze what type of data is needed to make
decisions. Councilmember Barsky asked Manager Hickman to
gather the needed information for Mr. Millet. She
suggested the MORPC report, budget, and comprehensive plan
update. Councilmember Herman stated that he may also want
to look at the summary information he provided from eleven
years ago.

Mayor Robertson and Vice Mayor Lucier stated they will be
leaving over Labor Day weekend to attend the Granville,
Massachusetts celebration. Mayor Robertson read aloud a
proclamation they will present at the celebration. It was
stated that the trip will be funded with personal funds.

Councilmember Barsky inquired on the Economic, Finance,
and Personnel Committee looking at the Fair Labor Act
updates in regards to the Municipal League. Manager
Hickman stated that this issue could be added to their
agenda.

Councilmember Barsky stated that the next three Planning
and Zoning meetings will be held at 2:00.

Council reminded Manager Hickman that they still need to
approve the Mayors Reports for June and July. Manager
Hickman stated that he would have these on the agenda for
the next Council meeting. Manager Hickman stated that the
numbers Council inquired on for the reports are indeed
zero. He stated that Council also inquired if charges
were filed in a particular incident. Manager Hickman
stated that charges were filed. Councilmember Barsky
asked if there could be some type of running list with
requests Council makes for Manager Hickman to serve as
reminders. Manager Hickman stated yes.

ADJOURNMENT
   At 9:34 pm, Councilmember Barsky moved to adjourn
the meeting. Second by Councilmember Hartfield. Motion
carried, 7-0. Meeting adjourned.


Submitted by Melanie Schott

Council Minutes 8/18/04

GranvilleVillage — Mon, 23 Jan 2012 20:42:05 +0000

VILLAGE OF GRANVILLE
COUNCIL MINUTES
August 18, 2004

CALL TO ORDER (by Mayor Robertson at 7:32 pm)

PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE

ROLL CALL

   Those responding to the roll call were,
Councilmembers Barsky, Hartfield, Herman, Main, OKeefe,
and Mayor Robertson; Manager Hickman and Law Director
Crites. Motion carried.

Councilmember Herman moved to excuse Vice Mayor Lucier for
the time that she would not be present. Seconded by
Councilmember Hartfield.

Vice Mayor Lucier arrived at 7:34 pm.

APPROVAL OF AGENDA (7:35 pm)
      Councilmember Main moved to accept the agenda as
presented, seconded by Councilmember Barsky. Motion
carried.

CITIZENS COMMENTS (7:35 pm)
No one appeared to speak.

Mayor Robertson closed public comments at 7:35 pm.

PUBLIC HEARING
None scheduled

NEW BUSINESS (7:37 pm)
   Resolution No. 04-55, A Resolution To Authorize
The Village Manager To Submit A Grant Application For 2004-
2005 Capital Improvement Projects To District 17, Ohio
Public Works Commission, For Funding was introduced by
Councilmember OKeefe. Second by Councilmember Main.

Discussion: Manager Hickman stated that the Resolution
would allow the village to apply for grant funding from
the Ohio Public Works Commission. He stated that if the
grant is received they would be looking at extending water
service to the Service Department (behind Granville
Market) and from Pinehurst to the corporation limit on
Welsh Hills Road. Councilmember OKeefe asked if the
residents would be responsible for any portion of the
water extension. Manager Hickman stated that there is no
cost to the residents.   He stated that 80% would be
funded by the grant, while the remaining 20% would be
local funding. Councilmember Herman asked what the 20%
contribution is estimated to be. Manager Hickman
estimated somewhere around $50,000. Councilmember OKeefe
asked what would happen if the grant money didnt get
awarded. Manager Hickman stated that they would reapply
for the grant the following year and perhaps local funding
could be used. Manager Hickman stated that the Service
Department is in need of the water extension for fire
protection.

Councilmember Herman offered the following friendly
amendment:
Change the year 2000 to 2004.

   Motion carried (7-0). Resolution No. 04-55 is
adopted.

   Ordinance No. 20-04, An Ordinance To Amend
Sections 331.12 Of The Codified Ordinances Of The Village
Of Granville was introduced by Councilmember Barsky.
Second by Vice Mayor Lucier.

Discussion: None.

Mayor Robertson scheduled the public hearing for September
1, 2004.

OLD BUSINESS
None scheduled

REVIEW OF MINUTES
Regularly Scheduled Meeting of August 4, 2004
Councilmember Barsky moved to accept the minutes as
amended; seconded by Councilmember OKeefe. Motion
carried, 7-0.

MAYORS COURT REPORT June and July
The Mayors Court Reports for the months of June and July
were presented for review.

Discussion: Council asked for additional information where
blank spaces were not filled in. Manager Hickman stated
he would get this information to Council. Council agreed
to review and accept the reports at a future Council
meeting.

MANAGERS REPORT June
The Managers Report for the month of June was presented
for review.

Discussion: Councilmember Barsky inquired on an assault of
a student by another student   at Granville high school.
She asked if there was any resolution to the matter, and
did the incident occur. Mayor Robertson asked if charges
were filed in this incident. Manager Hickman stated he
didnt think so, but he would further look into this.
Council discussed how this one incident showed a spike
when depicted on a graph.

Council further discussed the way the information is
reported. Vice Mayor Lucier stated that she didnt find
the graphs to be of more value, but rather excessive.
Councilmember Barsky stated that from her perspective it
is easier to follow the charts with graphs than look at
all of the numbers, especially when you are looking for
trends over time. Mayor Robertson stated that she found
the graphs to be useful, but it might be nice to have more
graphs on one page to save paper. Council also discussed
having a Category Report. After further discussion,
Council stated that there is a Category of Assault in
the Report. Mayor Robertson stated that when incidents
like the assault at Granville high school occur Council
needs to be aware of them. Manager Hickman stated that he
would talk with Chief Cartnal on how violent crimes are
recorded and see if better explanations can be given to
Council. He stated that he would have Chief Cartnal
review the tape so he can hear the comments made by
Council on this matter.


MANAGERS REPORT July
The Managers Report for the month of July was presented
for review.

Discussion: Mayor Robertson made reference to number
fourteen in the report, she stated that she thought it was
good that Chief Cartnal had spoken with the parents of
juveniles throwing rocks.

Vice Mayor Lucier stated that she noticed in the June and
July reports, there are zero incidents under Parking on a
Sidewalk/Curb Lawn. She stated that she knows of many
times when she encounters a blocked area. Vice Mayor
Lucier stated that she would like to see better
enforcement of this, especially with the energy the
community is investing in Walkability. Manager Hickman
stated that this may be a case where tickets were not
issues, but friendly warnings. Vice Mayor Lucier stated
that she wouldnt care if tickets were issued, as long as
this occurrence stops. She stated that if an officer
reminding people works, that is fine too.

Councilmember Barsky stated that she has noticed that the
stop sign at Elm and Prospect Street is often violated.
Vice Mayor Lucier added that the stop sign on Pearl and
Elm is also often violated. Councilmember OKeefe stated
that she had recently received a complaint about cars not
stopping at the stop sign at Burg and Samson Street.
Councilmember Main added that this stop sign is often
ignored, and people dont even slow down. Mayor Robertson
stated that the Pearl and College Street intersection has
improved. Manager Hickman stated that he would pass all
of these comments on to Chief Cartnal. He went on to say
that this could be looked at in the LSSU committee.

    Councilmember Hartfield moved to accept the June
and July reports; seconded by Councilmember OKeefe.
Motion carried 7-0.

   Mayor Robertson instructed the reports be filed
with the Clerk. A copy of said reports are included as
part of these Minutes.

COMMITTEE REPORTS

Economic, Finance, Personnel Committee (EFP) Hartfield,
Herman, Lucier
Councilmember Herman stated that they are awaiting
information that is to be provided by Village Planner,
Chris Strayer. He asked Manager Hickman to check into
this. Manager Hickman agreed.

Light, Safety, Sts/Sidewalks, Utility Committee (LSSU)
Lucier, Hartfield, Main
Next meeting will be October 1st at 9:00 am.
Councilmember OKeefe asked if the neighbors on East
Broadway have been contacted in regards to a discussed
project (narrowing roads, adding trees, widening the
sidewalk, and traffic calming). Manager Hickman stated
yes, although no date has been set.

Planning Commission OKeefe
Councilmember OKeefe stated that Norm Ingle and Jim Siegel
attended to discuss a proposed gazebo on Opera Park. She
stated that the Kiwanis will scrap the idea of the gazebo
and look at other options as their legacy project for the
Granville Bicentennial. She stated that directional signs
and sandwich board signs were discussed. Councilmember
Barsky asked Councilmember Hartfield to make the Chamber
of Commerce aware of the discussions on signage. Mayor
Robertson added that the businesses need to be aware of
these meetings. She asked Manager Hickman to contact
Barbara Hammond in regards to the next meeting. It was
stated that Ms. Hammond has previously attended several
meetings where signage issues were discussed. Lastly,
Councilmember OKeefe stated that the village will be
getting a knitting store.

Planning & Zoning Committee (P&Z) Barsky, OKeefe,
Robertson
Councilmember Barsky stated that the committee met to set
some deadlines. She stated that the JEDD document was
passed on to the Planning Commission, as well as the
Township Trustees. She stated that the Trustees were
having their zoning board review the document.
Councilmember Barsky stated that it was her hope to set up
a meeting date in October to get the Trustees feedback.
Councilmember Barsky stated that the committee was updated
on the Speedway situation. Councilmember Barsky stated
that there will be a meeting on August 20th and September
20th. The September meeting will include access
management discussions with Doyle Clear. She stated that
some of these issues should also be looked at in the LSSU
committee. She stated that she would further discuss this
with Councilmember Hartfield.

Union Cemetery Main
No Report.

OTHER COUNCIL MATTERS

   Senior Foundation Manager Hickman stated that he
would get this information to Council in their packets,
and this could be discussed at the next Council meeting.

   Biketoberfest Manager Hickman stated that this
is an intergovernmental cooperation with Newark-Heath-
Granville. He stated that Granvilles participation in
Biketoberfest will take place at the Bryn Du Mansion. He
stated that the event will be a bi-athalon (bike race and
run), as well as a safety program. Manager Hickman stated
that Biketoberfest will be October 2nd from 9:00-6:00. He
asked for any interested Councilmembers to contact him on
participating for this event. Manager Hickman also stated
that the Kiwanis would be participating. Councilmember
OKeefe asked if a list of areas where help is needed could
be emailed to her. Manager Hickman stated yes. Mayor
Robertson stated that it might be a good idea to have t-
shirts for Councilmembers to wear so area residents could
know who their Councilmembers are. Vice Mayor Lucier
added that the t-shirts could be turned in and re-used for
other purposes.

   Other Mayor Robertson stated that she would be
meeting with the Our Town publication on Friday, August
20th. She stated that any member of Council wishing to
discuss various topics that they are working on in
committees, etc. is welcome to attend. Councilmember
OKeefe stated that she would be willing to attend the
Friday meeting.

Vice Mayor Lucier asked Law Director Crites for an update
on the sign ordinance and information on the Sentinel
article. Law Director Crites stated that he will give the
proposed amendments to committee on Friday. He stated
that this issue should come before Council in early fall.
Councilmember Main added that he believed the Sentinel
article was good and he agreed with the
unconstitutionality of our Ordinance. He stated that
many people put signs up and they are not aware of the
right of way. Mayor Robertson stated that she has noticed
many signs located in the right of way. She asked what
happens to those signs. Manager Hickman stated that the
signs in the right of way are pulled and left at the
village offices for anyone wishing to pick them up. Mayor
Robertson stated that perhaps the location of any pulled
signs could be announced in the newspaper. Mayor
Robertson clarified that signs located on residential
property are not pulled. Manager Hickman stated that the
village does contact political parties to remind them that
signs are not permitted in the right of way.

Mayor Robertson stated that a joint meeting with
Granville/Newark/Heath will be on August 30th. She stated
that she hopes all of Council can attend and that it is
always good for Granville to have a good showing at these
kinds of events.

Mayor Robertson and Vice Mayor Lucier stated that they
will be attending the Granville Massachusetts 250th
anniversary celebration over Labor Day.

EXECUTIVE SESSION
   Pursuant to ORC 121.22(G)(3) To conference with
an attorney for the public body concerning disputes
involving the public body that are the subject of pending
or imminent court action (118 South Main Street).

Councilmember OKeefe moved to enter into Executive
Session, Seconded by Councilmember Main.

Roll call: Herman, Lucier, Barsky, Main, Robertson,
OKeefe, Hartfield (7, 0)

Time in: 8:32 pm.

Vice Mayor Lucier moved exit out of Executive Session and
return to Regular Session. Seconded by Councilmember
Barsky.

Time out: 8:43 pm.

Roll call: Hartfield, OKeefe, Robertson, Main, Barsky,
Lucier, Herman (7, 0)

ADJOURNMENT (8:45 pm)
   Councilmember Main moved to adjourn. Second by
Vice Mayor Lucier.    Motion carried, 7-0. Meeting
adjourned.


Submitted by Melanie Schott

Council Minutes 8/4/04

GranvilleVillage — Mon, 23 Jan 2012 20:41:45 +0000

VILLAGE OF GRANVILLE
COUNCIL MINUTES
August 4, 2004

CALL TO ORDER (by Mayor Robertson at 7:35 pm)

PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE

ROLL CALL
   Those responding to the roll call were
Councilmembers Herman, Main, OKeefe, Vice Mayor Lucier
and Mayor Robertson. Law Director Crites and Chief
Cartnal.

Councilmember Main moved to excuse Councilmember Barsky.
Seconded by Councilmember OKeefe. It was noted that
Councilmember Hartfield would be late. Councilmember
Herman moved to excuse Councilmember Hartfield for the
duration that she would not be present. Seconded by
Councilmember OKeefe.

APPROVAL OF AGENDA (7:37 pm)
Mayor Robertson moved to amend the agenda to hold an
Executive Session after Citizens Comments, and move the
Krone Appeal (Item 7B) after the Executive Session.
Seconded by Councilmember Main. Motion carried.

CITIZENS COMMENTS (7:38 pm)
Bicentennial Commission Richard Daly, President of the
Bicentennial Commission, 2776 Burg Street. Mr. Daly
updated Council on the progress made by the Bicentennial
Commission. He stated that there are Bicentennial
products for sale in the village offices. He stated that
soon these products will be available in local
businesses. Mr. Daly went on to say that the final
community planning meeting will be on September 18th from
9:00 11:00. He stated that the public is welcome to
attend and that this meeting will give information on how
people can participate. Mr. Daly stated that a newsletter
will be going out, and anyone wishing to be on the
newsletter mailing list should contact Jody Chiles at 321-
1155. Mr. Daly stated that the Bicentennial Commission
has gotten their first corporate sponsor. He stated that
Park National Bank would be sponsoring the ball. Mr. Daly
also stated that various organizations are working on
their legacy projects to be given to Granville. He stated
that the Rotary Club will sponsor a New Years Eve party
and donate a clock to be placed outside the village
offices as their legacy project. Mr. Daly stated that the
township Trustees are working on what their legacy project
will be. Mr. Daly stated that the Kiwanis Club would like
to gift a gazebo to be placed at Opera Park to the
village. He stated that he was there to ask for Council
to accept the concept of this proposal by the Kiwanis
Club. Mr. Daly stated that it was thought that the gazebo
could be used for public speaking, bands, craft stand,
meetings, and Christmas caroling. He went on to say that
the size, shape, and architecture would still need to be
determined, and it would be their intent to go through the
Planning Commission. Mr. Daly stated that it wouldnt
make sense for them to do the work of going through the
Planning Commission if Council did not accept the concept
of the Kiwanis gifting the gazebo to that location. He
stated that if the concept is accepted, than a formal
proposal by the Kiwanis Club would come before Council at
a later time. Mayor Robertson asked when they needed
Councils feedback. Mr. Daly stated as soon as
possible. Councilmember OKeefe asked when the Kiwanis
Club proposes to be done with the gazebo. Mr. Daly stated
that they are flexible on the timeframe of installing the
gazebo. Mayor Robertson stated that it would be her
preference to see this go before the Planning Commission.
Councilmember Herman agreed he too would like input by the
Planning Commission. Vice Mayor Lucier stated that it may
be wise to first see if the Village wants a structure in
the Opera Park location. Councilmember Main suggested
having a work session and Planning Commission meeting.
Mayor Robertson asked that Council to be ready to
seriously talk about this issue at their next meeting in
two weeks.

Trudy Knox, 123 Elm Street, Apartment D, spoke to Council
in regards to the Senior Foundation. She stated that a
previous Council voted to lend $10,000 (interest free) to
the Senior Foundation, and that this money would be given
to the Columbus Foundation to oversee. Ms. Knox stated
that she was before Council to request an additional $1500
for an application to set up a 501C3, acquire a federal ID
number, and become incorporated in Ohio. She stated that
the entire amount may not be needed, depending on the
final costs associated with applying for 5013C status.
Mayor Robertson stated some of the history behind setting
up the Granville Foundation. She explained the previous
Council had passed a Resolution to lend the money and that
over time the $10,000 would be returned to the village.
Mayor Robertson stated that the timeframe to set up the
foundation was by the end of 2004, and that the setup fees
were not included at the time the $10,000 was
appropriated. Vice Mayor Lucier asked if the $10,000
appropriation was already in the budget, and asked if the
requested $1500 was in addition to the $10,000. Mayor
Robertson stated yes. Councilmember OKeefe asked what the
Columbus Foundations role would be. Ms. Knox stated that
the Columbus Foundation would oversee the money. She
stated that an attorney (Lisa Jolly) working for the
Columbus Foundation would work with the Granville
Foundation. She stated that the Columbus Foundation has
over 28 brokerage firms to work with, and they consult on
fundraising. Ms. Knox stated that the Granville
Foundation would invest the money, while the Columbus
Foundation would counsel. Councilmember Herman asked who
makes the requests to ask for the $10,000 and $1500
appropriations from Council. Mayor Robertson stated that
these decisions came from the Senior Committee. Ms. Knox
added that the Senior Committee has set up a temporary
advisory board to work on the creating of the Granville
Foundation. Mayor Robertson asked for this issue to be
put on the agenda for the next Council meeting.

Furthermore, Ms. Knox stated that the Senior Committee is
moving ahead to form a committee to look for available
land for moderate cost senior housing. She stated that
United National Church Residencies and Lutheran Housing
are potential developers, if they can find the needed
land. Ms. Knox went on to say that this is not HUD type
housing. She stated that one area she saw as a
possibility could be on the hillside of the Bryn Du
property. Ms. Knox stated that Council voted sometime
back that public land could be used for senior housing.

Mayor Robertson closed citizens comments at 7:57 pm.

PUBLIC HEARING
   None Scheduled.

EXECUTIVE SESSION

Vice Mayor Lucier moved to adjourn the Milner Road hearing
and enter into Executive Session, Pursuant to Ohio Revised
Code Section 121.22 (G)(3), for the purpose of
conferencing with an attorney for the public body
concerning disputes involving the public body that are the
subject of imminent court action (Krone Appeal).

Roll Call vote: Herman, Main OKeefe, Lucier, Robertson.

Time In: 8:00 pm.

Councilmember Main moved to adjourn Executive Session.
Seconded by Councilmember OKeefe.

Roll Call vote: Lucier, Robertson, Main, OKeefe, Herman.

Time Out: 8:35 pm.

Krone Appeal Decision

Councilmember Main moved to uphold the decision by the
Planning Commission in regards to the Krone Appeal.
Seconded by Councilmember Herman.

Roll Call: Lucier, Herman, Main, OKeefe, Robertson (5, 0).

Discussion: None.

NEW BUSINESS (8:37 pm)
   Resolution No. 04-50, A Resolution To Appoint The
Granville Arts Commission   was introduced by
Councilmember Main. Second by Vice Mayor Lucier.

Discussion: Mayor Robertson stated that there is one more
opening for a Denison representative. She stated that Ron
Abram, an art professor from Denison University, has
expressed interest in being appointed. She stated that
this might be a good fit, since Mr. Abram is a print
maker, and the other Denison representative is a music
professor.

Councilmember Main asked if the Granville Village Council
representative is intended to be a member from Council.
Mayor Robertson stated that it was her sense that this
need not be a member of Council, but could be someone
appointed by Council.

Council was asked to list their top three choices to serve
on the Granville Arts Commission. Council voted by ballot.

Council agreed to appoint Ron Abram as the 2nd Denison
Representative. Lois Forman-Wernet was appointed as the
Granville Village Council representative. Stephen
Trumbell and Kyle Morgan were appointed as the Community-
at large representatives.

Mayor Robertson stated that former Councilmember Clifton
Crais would be happy to know that the Arts Commission is
now in place.

Councilmember Hartfield arrived at 8:40 pm.

Motion carried (6-0). Resolution No. 04-50 is adopted.

OLD BUSINESS
   None Scheduled.

REVIEW OF MINUTES
Regularly Scheduled Meeting of July 7, 2004
Councilmember Herman moved to accept the minutes as
amended. Second by Councilmember OKeefe. Motion carried,
6-0.

Vice Mayor Lucier stated that the minutes taken by the
court reporter during the 2nd Krone appeal hearing were
incorrect. She stated that many comments were incorrectly
attributed to her. Law Director Crites stated that he has
made a note of this concern.

COMMITTEE REPORTS
Light, Safety, Sts/Sidewalks & Utility Committee
Councilmember Hartfield stated that the meeting minutes
are in Councils packets. She stated that there has been
some discussion on the appropriate location for the
pedestrian bridge spanning over Raccoon Creek.
Councilmember Hartfield stated that some people would like
to see it located closer to provide better access to the
downtown area. Village Planner, Chris Strayer, stated
that he would be willing to work with the engineer on
this. Mr. Strayer also stated that he would like to meet
with the committee at their next meeting on August 13th in
regards to several issues.

Mayor Robertson noted that the meeting minutes incorrectly
note Gabe Kaplan. She stated that it should read Abram
Kaplan.

Economic, Finance, Personnel Committee
Councilmember Herman stated that the committee discussed
the River Road project. He stated that property owners
Earl Shurtz and John Klauder were interested in
discussions concerning River Road. Mayor Robertson asked
how many property owners have attended the meetings.
Councilmember Herman stated that both Mr. Shurtz and Mr.
Klauder have attended previous meetings. He stated that
an informal survey was done by Jack Thornborough about a
year and a half ago. He stated that Mr. Thornborough felt
that over fifty percent of the land owners had interest in
annexation. Councilmember Herman stated that Manager
Hickman would be working on getting the property owners
together.

Councilmember Herman stated that Chris Strayer will be
providing some needed information regarding the economic
analysis. Mr. Strayer stated that he can most likely have
this information by the third week in August.

Vice Mayor Lucier asked for further information regarding
the notation in the minutes referring to sprinkler
incentives. Councilmember Herman stated that
Councilmember Barsky had asked about fire sprinklers for
downtown buildings and the committee is looking at
investigating the possibility of grants that could finance
sprinklers for the interior of buildings. Mayor Robertson
stated that Council has discussed this issue on and off
over the years. She stated that the village has upgraded
the current water system so it is sufficient to allow
sprinkler systems to be installed. Vice Mayor Lucier
asked what the village standards are in regards to
sprinkler systems. Village Planner, Chris Strayer, stated
that they are provided by the Licking County Building
Department. Vice Mayor Lucier asked if Council could get
a copy of these standards. Chris Strayer stated yes.
Councilmember OKeefe asked if fire checks are done in
Granville and by whom are they done. Chris Strayer stated
that fire checks are done only when a change of use
request is made or for a new building permit.
Councilmember Hartfield stated that she believes the
Granville Fire Department does check on the business
establishments in Granville. Councilmember Herman stated
that his approach to installing sprinkler systems would
not be through regulations, but by providing incentives
for businesses who install them. Chris Strayer stated
that he would further research what grant monies might be
available for installing sprinkler systems in historic
buildings.

Planning & Zoning Committee
Mayor Robertson stated that she would answer any questions
Council might have concerning the meeting minutes since
Councilmember Barsky was not available. She stated that
the committee had discussions on an Access Management
Plan. She stated that this is needed for analysis of
each road within our jurisdiction so as to set up
regulations that avoid the kind of problem that has arisen
at Milner Road. Mayor Robertson stated that the
committee will discuss subdivision regulations at the
August 13th meeting, JEDD discussions on August 20th, and
continue discussion of Cherry Valley Road on September
23rd. Mayor Robertson stated that they hope to meet with
township Trustees at the August 20th JEDD discussion
meeting. Councilmember OKeefe stated that the committee
did meet with Doyle Clear. Vice Mayor Lucier stated that
it appears many of the items on the Planning and Zoning
Committees agenda should be looked at in the Lights,
Streets, Sidewalks, and Utilities (LSSU) Committee. Mayor
Robertson stated that where there is an overlap in
function, it is hoped that the issues move from one
committee to the next.

Union Cemetery
No Report.

Planning Commission
Councilmember OKeefe stated that an awning and building
sign were approved for Prudential Integrity One Real
Estate. She also stated that the Planning Commission
approved wall, window, and projecting signs for Babs
Closet - a womens boutique. Councilmember OKeefe stated
that signage for TLR and Associates was approved on S.
Main Street, and a tin roof for the Barsky residence was
also approved.

Councilmember OKeefe stated that owners of 116 East
Broadway 1st Federal Jerry Martin agreed to waive a 45
day timeline. Some issues that arose were having Village
Planner, Chris Strayer. look into Resolution 79-6 which
allowed the bank to construct a depository window. He
stated that the bank window is considered to be on village
property. Mr. Strayer stated that there is some concern
on the proposed balcony, and the fact that it is
considered to be in village air space. Councilmember
OKeefe stated that architectural details involving an
enclosed stairwell were also discussed. Councilmember
OKeefe stated that Ben Rader wrote a letter expressing his
concern over food and beverages being thrown over the
proposed balcony. She stated that Mr. Rader is concerned
with who will upkeep the property. Mayor Robertson asked
that this be further discussed at their next meeting.

Recreation Commission
Councilmember OKeefe stated that the committee discussed
the next development phase of Raccoon Valley Park. She
stated that the Commission is working on the development
of fields and they want to be self sufficient and not have
to rely on holding programs at the schools. She stated
that the Commission received $40,000 in grants from the
Rotary for development and maintenance of a girls softball
field.

OTHER COUNCIL MATTERS
Support our Troops and Families
Mayor Robertson asked if anyone was able to attend the
meeting on August 7th 6:00 pm at the National Guard
Armory. No one on Council was able to attend. Mayor
Robertson asked for this information to be passed on to
Village staff in case anyone would like to attend to
represent Granville.

Councilmember Hartfield stated that there will be a
Community Connection Meeting on September 27th at 7:00.

ADJOURNMENT
   At 9:20 pm, Councilmember Herman moved to adjourn
the meeting. Second by Councilmember Main. Motion
carried, 4-0. Meeting adjourned.



Submitted by Melanie Schott