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Planning Minutes 12/13/04

GRANVILLE PLANNING COMMISSION
December 13, 2004
Minutes

Members Present:   Jack Burriss, Tom Mitchell, Jackie O'Keefe, Tim Riffle, Mark Parris (Chair), Carl Wilkenfeld (Vice Chair)
Members Absent:  Jack Burriss
Visitors Present:  Joe & Nancy McDonough, John Noblick, Lisa McKivergin, Jodi Schmidt, Jeff Oster, Leslie O'Neill, John Roy
Also Present:  Joe Hickman, Village Manager
The Chair swore in all those who planned to speak.
Citizens Comments:  none

Minutes of October 11, 2004.  MR. RIFFLE MOVED TO APPROVE MINUTES AS SUBMITTED.  MR. WILKENFELD SECONDED, AND MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.

Minutes of November 22, 2004:  Page 1, The paragraph starting "Mr. Mitchell:" change to "Mr. Mitchell . . . stairway, and this met with approval of all members.
MR. MITCHELL MOVED TO APPROVE MINUTES AS AMENDED; MR. RIFFLE SECONDED, AND MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.
 
New Business:

Granville Chamber of Commerce - Santa Shed

 The chamber wishes to house Santa Claus in the Alltel Park.  Mr. Wilkenfeld asked whether people could still get around it in the alley and was told Yes.  He thought maybe it could be closer to the street.   Mr. Riffle asked where the reindeer would stay, and Mr. Hickman said, "on the roof."
MR. WILKENFELD MOVED TO APPROVE APPLICATION; MR. MITCHELL SECONDED, AND MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.

Joe McDonough, 418 West Broadway - Renovations

 The Village Planner revoked the occupancy permit upon learning the applicant had made substantial changes without an application.  He had intended to replace everything as is and did not realize he needed approval, but then he went ahead and made some design changes.  Tonight he is asking for approval of changes for windows, siding and front door. 
 Mr. McDonough apologized for the misunderstanding when he made the changes.  He supports all GPC efforts and realizes maintaining architectural strength of the village is necessary.  The house was in bad shape, and had lots of different windows, and different renovations were made randomly.  The neighbors are very supportive of his efforts.  All his actions were in good faith and he did not intend to break rules.
 Mr. Parris brought up the subject of zoning districts, all of which have different regulations, and we must be sure that this SRD-B/TCOD change is compatible with the neighborhood and provides smooth transition between the village and rural areas.   Mr. McDonough presumed it was not in the AROD so did not need this approval, but the he heard later that it was in the TCOD and that Mr. Burriss was uncomfortable with the windows and doors.  All his work is of high quality, and the wood windows are the same width but they have been made shorter and bordered by 1"x4" boards.
 Mr. Parris acknowledged that it is unfortunate that neither Mr. Strayer nor Mr. Burriss is present, nor did the latter provide a letter to explain his concerns. 
 Mr. Wilkenfeld thought he could put lintels over the windows.  Mr. Riffle said the windows do not fit the house and they should have been taller, but Mr. McDonough disagreed and said when they reframed them, they used the original framing.  Mr. Riffle is talking about historical window sizes.  The upper ones are as they would have been, but the lower ones would have been longer and narrower.
 Ms. O'Keefe asked whether he was given an OK to go ahead, and he said Yes, originally nothing was to be changed.  He will use new products that look old.
 Lisa McKivergin, who owns the house next door, knows the house well and feels it was the ugliest house in town, and the difference now is substantial and outstanding.  She said the interior of the house was so muddled that it could not easily be renovated.
 Mr. Mitchell said the code requires that architectural continuity and good design be promoted, and he would defer to Mr. Riffle about the architecture.  It looks fine to him and sees nothing wrong with the design.
 Mr. Parris thinks it looks better than it did, and the only criticism to the front of the house it that there could be some sort of mullion detail at least in the top sash to give it more detail and to strike the period. 
Mr. Wilkenfeld agreed with these comments.

MR. WILKENFELD MOVED TO APPROVE APPLICATION 04-184 AS SUBMITTED.  MR. MITCHELL SECONDED, AND MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.

Lisa McKivergin, 134 East Broadway - Sign

 For her yoga studio, Jody Schmidt desires a door sign to be hung under the dentist's sign.  It will have black trim and will match the dentist's sign and his sign will overlay hers. 
 Mr. Parris is concerned about setting a precedent with this situation and we need to justify what we do, since only one wall sign is permitted per business.  The maximum number of storefront signs is 4, and this would be only three.   Members discussed the location and appearance of the pair of signs. 
 Mr. Parris applied justifications:

A.  That special circumstances or conditions exist which are peculiar to the land or structure(s) involved and which are not applicable to other lands or structures in the same zoning district.  There are two tenants upstairs and we have no viable alternatives for another sign either as a projecting or free-standing sign.  The door does not lend itself to a window sign.  The front of the building does not lend itself to a projecting, and the awning would interfere with a projecting sign.
 B. That a literal interpretation of the provisions of this Zoning Ordinance would deprive the applicants of rights commonly enjoyed by other properties in the same zoning district under the provisions of this Ordinance.  It would deprive because the other tenant has a sign and this new business has the right to identify itself.
C. That the special conditions and circumstances do not result from the actions of the applicant.  They do not.
D. That the granting the variance will not confer on the applicant any undue privilege that is denied by this Ordinance to other lands or structures in the same zoning district.  No undue privileges since others have signs, and there is no other place for this one.
E. That the granting of the variance will in no other manner adversely affect the health, safety, and general welfare of the persons residing or working within the vicinity of the proposed variance.  Placing it on the door would prevent people from bumping into it.

 Ms. McKivergin brought up the idea of a long thin sign beside the door, keeping the same fonts and colors.  Mr. Parris said a projecting sign would have to be two-sided and must stay within the 10 sq.ft. maximum, or 5' on each side.  She thought 5' would be too short but will go and design a new sign.  But first she produced an earlier stab at a design, which the members liked.

 MR. WILKENFELD MOVED TO APPROVE A PROJECTING SIGN WITH THE FOLLOWING STIPULATIONS:  (1) SIGN WILL BE A PROJECTING WALL SIGN ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE DOOR; (2) NO MORE THAN 10 SQ.FT; (3) USING THE SAME GRAPHICS AND COLORS AS THE ORIGINAL DRAWING; (4) MR STRAYER WILL REVIEW THE FINAL DESIGN.   MR. RIFFLE SECONDED, AND MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.

Jeff Oster, 1159 Cherry Valley Road - Sign

 Mr. Oster wishes to replace the existing sign with a new sign with new design.  Mr. Oster said there was a change in the dimensions of the original sign to increase the size, but it still fits within the code.  It will be white background with blue and burgundy lettering. 

MR. WILKENFELD MOVED TO APPROVE 04-186 WITH THE CONDITION THAT THE SIGN WILL BE SLIGHTLY LARGER THAN THE ORIGINAL. THE CHANGES ARE LISTED ON THE DESIGN PAGE OF THE APPLICATION.  MR. MITCHELL SECONDED, AND MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.

John Noblick, 335 N. Granger Street (Kent Maynard)

 The applicant wishes to add a 1¾ story second-floor bedroom and bath above existing family room and extend both 5'6" toward rear of lot.  Nr. Noblick explained that there was a previous design change in 1900 as well as in 1890, and this one will be a different pitch but will look a lot like the original.  It will be a shed roof, and all materials will match. 

MR. MITCHELL MOVED TO APPROVE 04-187 AS PRESENTED.   MR. RIFFLE SECONDED, AND MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.

Elizabeth Carr, 130 East Broadway - sign

 The sidewalk sign has already been set up, and it advertises the other business for these owners.  Mr. Parris was upset at the retroactive application.  The code says there can only be one sidewalk sign per building, but Commission members were unclear about how to interpret the language and asked for clarification.

MR. WILKENFELD MOVED TO TABLE AND WOULD LIKE A RESPONSE FROM THE VILLAGE PLANNER OR LAWYER AS TO WHETHER WE CAN ADVERTISE TWO DIFFERENT BUSINESSES ON ONE SIGN, ONE OF WHICH IS NOT IN THIS LOCATION.  MR. MITCHELL SECONDED, ABND MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.

 Ms. Carr may not leave the sandwich board on the sidewalk until this is resolved.  Joe Hickman will talk with her.

Work Session:   

 865 Newark-Granville Road - Fence

 Mr. Strayer said the owner was denied a variance from BZBA for a 712" tall fence on the front lot line.  She wants to talk about different designs with GPC.
 Ms. Leslie O'Neill showed pictures and said they want to take down the bushes and gate and put in a fence and stone wall 24" high.  She wants 48" because the fence sits so low.  The house sits on the hill in the TCOD, and she believes a lower fence would look silly.  Their original plans called for a chain link in 8' lengths.
 Mr. Hickman thought a retaining wall seems like a good idea and will help retain the soil. 
 Mr. Burriss had asked the applicant for stone pillars matching the house at the pedestal gate at the corner to define those entrances more clearly.  He also said he would be available to talk to anyone tomorrow.
 Mr. Wilkenfeld wanted to see what final design plans for a 48" fence would look like, vs. 42" maximum in the code.  The BZBA would give final variance approval as a modification.
 Mr. Parris said if they made the retaining wall, could they make it higher and would that need approval, and Mr. Hickman said the retaining wall could be an administrative decision, and as long as the fence is 42" they would not need a variance.
 John Roy said the soil is washing away and they need the retaining wall.
 Mr. Parris said that since this property is a centerpiece to the village, he wants to do this right.
 Mr. Riffle thought GPC could approve it pending approval from BZBA.

 Finding of Fact:  MR. WILKENFELD  MOVED TO APPPROVE THE FINDINGS OF FACT FOR ITEMS A,B,C,D,E UNDER OLD BUSINESS, AND WE FIND THEM CONSISTENT WITH THE RELEVANT SECTIONS OF THE ZONING CODE AS OUTLINED IN THE VILLAGE PLANNER'S MEMO OF NOVEMBER December 10, 2004.  MR. RIFFLE SECONDED, AND THE MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.

Next Meetings: January 20 and 24
Adjournment:  9:25 p.m.

Respectfully submitted,
Betty Allen Hullinger

Monday
Jan302012

Planning Minutes 11/22/04

GRANVILLE PLANNING COMMISSION
November 22, 2004
Minutes

Members Present:   Jack Burriss, Tom Mitchell, Barb Lucier, Tim Riffle
Members Absent:  Mark Parris (Chair), Carl Wilkenfeld (Vice Chair)
Visitors Present:  Brett Griffith, Jack Schmidt, Ted Handel, Steve Mershon, Tommy Burkett, Millie Entrekin, Barbara Hammond, Jody Schmidt
Also Present:  Chris Strayer, Village Planner
The Chair swore in all those who planned to speak.
Citizens Comments:  none

Minutes of November 8, 2004.  MR. RIFFLE MOVED TO APPROVE MINUTES AS SUBMITTED.  MR. MITCHELL SECONDED, AND MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.
 
.Old Business:

First Baptist Church, 115 West Broadway - Storage Shed

MR. MITCHELL MOVED TO TAKE THE APPLICATION OFF THE TABLE.  MR. RIFFLE SECONDED, AND MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPRIOVED.

 Mr. Strayer said revised drawings and pictures are in packets with site plans for the concrete block shed.  It will have entry from the interior, and it will match the proposed doors.  We tabled at the last meeting because of lack of information, and what we have now is everything you asked for.
 Mr. Mitchell asked about the 15' between the storage and the outside stairway, and this was met with approval of all members, and Mr. Burriss had a question about the location of the new roof being jammed up against the window, and decided to move ahead even without clarification of the question.

MR.MITCHELL MOVED TO APPROVE APPLICATION 04-166.  MR. RIFFLE SECONDED, AND MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED. 
 
New Business:

Lisa McKivergin, 134 East Broadway - Change of Use

 The change is from a dentist office to a yoga studio over Victoria's, and the number of parking spaces requires is up to the GPC. 
Jody Schmidt, manager, explained that her studio plans to take over one-third of the upper part of the building.  The most students would be 12-15 per class, and she has about 20 classes per week, from 9 a.m. to 7:30 p.m.  The attendees are mostly Granville people walking in

MR. RIFFLE MOVED TO APPROVE APPLICATION 04-179 FOR CHANGE OF USE.  MR. MITCHELL SECONDED, AND MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.

Lisa McKivergin, 134 East Broadway - Sign

 Mr. Strayer said the applicant and he were not able to prepare this for this evening and she asked to table it.

 MR. MITCHELL MOVED TO TABLE APPLICATION.  MR. RIFFLE SECONDED, AND MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.

Granville Schools, 131 Granger St. - Awnings

 Mr. Strayer said the school board wants to construct blue and navy awnings at the north door and at the west door, the north door will have a half circle extending 8' and supported by two metal poles, and the west door awning will be more typical...   
 Brett Griffith, Treasurer, said the board wants to make the front entry easier to access in the rain, especially since the Granville Fellowship uses the building and the doors are heavy.  It will not project over the sidewalk.  He clarified exact location of awning in relation to the light. 
 Steve Mershon, neighbor, asked the size, and it is 96".

MR. RIFFLE MOVED TO APPROVE 04-181 AS SUBMITTED.  MR. MITCHELL SECONDED, AND MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.

Work Session Directional signs

 Barbara Hammond informed the group Chamber of Commerce wishes to assist visitors to stores and that the 5 proposed business-location signs will be located at (1) front of this building, (2) Broadway and Main, (3) Broadway and Cherry, (3) Main and Elm, and (5) Taylor's corner.  They have not talked about the number of slots available, but members were concerned about a lot of empty space on the sign. Mr. Mitchell said other signs could fill the space, such as the Village, Fire Department, or churches. The current signs are more oriented for cars, but the proposed signs, mimicking those at Easton, would be at eye level.  Her group would not include banks and real estate offices, and they wanted to get rid of the preponderance of sidewalk signs, just allowing them at banks and real estate offices. The existing signs will stay up.  They tried to use our lampposts as sample; they won't be exact, but they will be similar. 
 Mr. Mitchell wanted to know how to tell banks and real estate office they cannot have signs, and Mr. Strayer said they could be added if everyone wants them.
 Ms. Hammond said retail has priority, and the number of signs determines the size of the joint sign.    It's a two-sided sign.
 The question remains:  Who will put up and pay for the signs?

Finding of Fact:  MR. RIFFLE  MOVED TO APPPROVE THE FINDINGS OF FACT FOR ITEM A UNDER OLD BUSINESS AND ITEMS A AND C  UNDER NEW BUSINESS, AND WE FIND THEM CONSISTENT WITH THE RELEVANT SECTIONS OF THE ZONING CODE AS OUTLINED IN THE VILLAGE PLANNER'S MEMO OF NOVEMBER 22, 2004.  MR. RIFFLE SECONDED, AND THE MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.

Next Meetings: December 13.  December 27 meeting is cancelled.

Adjournment:  8:15 p.m.

Respectfully submitted,
Betty Allen Hullinger

Monday
Jan302012

Planning Minutes 11/8/04

GRANVILLE PLANNING COMMISSION
November 8, 2004
Minutes

Members Present: Jack Burriss, Tom Mitchell, Jackie O'Keefe, Mark Parris (Chair), Tim Riffle.
Members Absent: Carl Wilkenfeld (Vice Chair)
Visitors Present: Tommy Burkett, Father Enke, Tom Lazelle, Tony Beckerly, Patty Urbatis, Larry Morgan, and Mr. and Mrs. Steve Keeler.
The Chair swore in all those who planned to speak. 
Citizen's Comments:  No one appeared to speak. 

Minutes of October 11, 2004 - Consideration of minutes was postponed.
Minutes of October 25, 2004 - Mr. Mitchell moved to approve the minutes as presented, seconded by Mr. Burriss.  The motion was unanimously approved. 

Old Business:
115 West Broadway, #04-166
VRD, AROD
Storage Addition

Mr. Mitchell made a motion to take application #04-166 off of the table.  Second by Mr. Riffle.  The motion was unanimously approved.

Mr. Strayer stated that the addition had previously been tabled until more information could be provided.  The applicant, Tommy Burkett, stated that the purpose of the addition was to provide storage and to hide the garbage dumpsters.  Mr. Burriss asked if the proposed roof would be at the same slope as the existing roof.  Mr. Burkett stated yes.  Mr. Burkett indicated that the proposed doors would be similar to barn doors.  The committee asked about the handicap entrance and Mr. Burkett stated that the entrance is a newly installed back door.  Member's of the committee displayed some concern as to how the new addition would look from the road.  Mr. Burriss asked if there was site plan.  Mr. Strayer provided a site plan he had from another project.  Members of the committee stated that it would be helpful to them to see the addition indicated to scale on the site plan.  Mr. Burriss stated that Mr. Strayer might be able to help Mr. Burkett get some digital pictures that would better depict his plans.  Mr. Burriss stated that the drawings provided by Mr. Burkett are better, but he would still like to see something more to scale.  Mr. Parris asked if the church was in a time crunch to get this done.  Mr. Burkett stated that they would like to act soon, but they are running out of time to dig for the footers.  Mr. Burkett went on to say that the main objective in doing all of this was to improve the looks of the dumpster area on that side of the church.  Mr. Mitchell stated that he doesn't think anyone on the committee has any problem with the concept.  Mr. Burriss stated that the committee does not want to hinder him, but there needs to be some clearer indications as to what the addition will look like, and will it tie everything together consistently.  Mr. Burriss stated that the addition needs to be indicated, as well as how much space is needed to open the doors.     

Mr. Burriss made motion to table application #04-166.  Seconded by Mr. Riffle.  The motion was unanimously approved.   

New Business
314 East Broadway, #04-173
VBD, AROD
Freestanding Sign

The applicant, Tony Beckerly, stated that they would like to update the current sign because they feel it is an eye sore.  Mr. Strayer stated that the sign would consist of three colors.  Mr. Parris inquired on the proposed font.  Mr. Beckerly stated that he did not provide this with the application, but he distributed a business card with the font he wished to use. He stated that this font is consistent with all of the printed material that the Granville Inn distributes.  Mr. Parris stated that the committee generally likes to see an example of the sign in its totality.  Mr. Burriss asked if the sign would be two-sided.  Mr. Beckerly stated yes.  Mr. Beckerly stated that they would like to paint the black poles holding up the sign because they are rusted.  It was stated that the black on the poles does not count as part of the three color maximum allotted for signage.  The committee had questions as to where the wording on the sign would be located.  Mr. Beckerly stated that the sign would have the following wordage centered: Granville Inn, Great Taste in the Heart of Granville, Dining, Lodging, Cocktails, Catering and Banquets.  Mr. Beckerly stated that the sign is also in need of a new wooden frame.  He stated that he did not indicate this on his application.  Mr. Burriss stated that he feels the committee doesn't have a problem with the idea of making these changes in concept.  Mr. Parris stated that the request meets all that is required in the code and it will enhance what is there now.  He stated that the committee needs to be as specific as possible on what they approve.  Mr. Parris stated that in this case the committee has enough information to move forward, as long as Mr. Beckerly provides some additional information to Mr. Strayer.  Mr. Beckerly stated that he could have the information to Mr. Strayer the following day.  The following information were to be provided on the application to Mr. Strayer: 1) frame replacement, 2) font/the precise placement and size of the lettering, 3) a true to scale representation of the sign, 4) post rehabilitation.    

Mr. Mitchell made a motion to approve application #04-173 with the condition that  additional information listed below is provided to Mr. Strayer: 
1) frame replacement
2) font/the precise placement and size of the lettering
3) a true to scale representation of the sign
4) post rehabilitation.    

Second by Mr. Burriss.  Roll Call: Mitchell, Burriss, Riffle, Parris (4, 0).  The motion was unanimously approved. 


785 Newark Granville Road, #04-174
ID, TCOD
Parking Lot

Tom Lazelle stated that he was representing St. Edwards Catholic Church.  He stated that additional parking is needed, and they are proposing to place a gravel parking lot in the rear of their property.  He stated that a gravel lot is preferred, but they would be willing to asphalt it if need be.  Mr. Burriss asked how parking spaces would be indicated if a gravel lot is used.  Mr. Lazelle stated that it would be up to drivers to align themselves.  Mr. Burriss also inquired on what has been done about the drainage issue in this area.  Mr. Lazelle stated that the new plan has yet to be looked at by an engineer.  Mr. Mitchell asked if another detention base is needed if a gravel lot is used.  Mr. Parris asked if the village or county engineer would be looking at this and approving it.  Mr. Strayer stated that the village engineer would be approving the drainage, and that the application would be contingent upon his approval.  It was stated that there would not be additional lighting on the proposed parking lot because they plan to use it mostly just on Sunday mornings.  Father Enke stated that the lot is going to primarily be used for overflow.  He stated that they will likely pave the lot some time down the road.  Father Enke also stated that this request has stemmed from people parking along the road, and that this is unsafe and illegal.  Mr. Burriss asked if the 144 spaces on the lot are needed now, or could they make the lot smaller to accommodate fewer spaces.  Mr. Lazelle stated that it was cost effective to make the lot this size now.  Mr. Parris questioned the traffic flow in the parking lot, and Mr. Mitchell asked if the village engineer would also address the traffic flow.  Mr. Strayer stated no, he would only look at traffic flow on streets.  Mr. Burriss stated that he would have no problem with the approval as long as the village engineer approves it.  Other member's of the committee agreed. 

Mr. Riffle made a motion to approve application #04-174 with a gravel lot, pending the approval of the village engineer.  Second by Mr. Mitchell.  Roll Call: Riffle, Burris, Mitchell, Parris (4, 0).  The motion was unanimously approved.   

120 ½ East Broadway, #04-175
VBD, AROD
Wall Sign Modification

Mr. Strayer stated that this application had actually been approved several months back as application #04-101.  He stated that the sign was previously approved with a different color scheme.  The applicant, Patty Urbatis, stated that she is not fond of the current sign and she wasn't aware of the change because Prudential had dealt directly with the sign company.  She suggested changing the frame to white.  The committee agreed.  Mr. Parris asked if she was certain that Prudential would allow her to make this color change.  Ms. Urbatis stated yes, because the frame was not part of Prudential's sign. 

Mr. Burriss made a motion to consider a minor modification for application #04-101.  Seconded by Mr. Riffle.  The motion was unanimously approved. 

Mr. Riffle made a motion to approve application #04-175 with the condition that the frame is painted white.  Seconded by Mr. Mitchell.  Roll Call: Mitchell, Riffle, Burriss, Parris (4, 0).  The motion was unanimously approved. 

343 East Broadway, #04-179
SRD-B, AROD
Front Porch

The applicant, Larry Morgan, stated that his plans for a porch were actually approved some years back, but he had not ever made the proposed changes.  He supplied an example of the flooring he wished to use.  When asked, Mr. Morgan stated that the columns on the porch would be made out of a synthetic material with a base and a cap.  The committee discussed the building materials.  Mr. Parris asked if the changes from the original drawings were noted in the application.  Mr. Morgan stated yes and that the only change should be the rail and baluster system. 

Mr. Riffle made a motion to accept application #04-179 as submitted.  Seconded by Mr. Mitchell.  Roll Call: Burriss, Mitchell, Riffle, Parris (4, 0).  The motion was unanimously approved. 

Work Session (This item was not on the agenda, but added after 'New Business')
Mr. and Mrs. Steve Keeler spoke to the committee about a garage that they would like to build.  They stated that they wished to run their ideas by the Planning Commission before submitting a formal application. 

Finding of Fact Approvals
Mr. Riffle moved to approve the Findings of Fact for Items A, B, C, and D under New Business, and we find them consistent with the relevant sections of the zoning code as outlined in the Village Planner's memo of November 8, 2004.  Second by Mr. Burriss.  The motion was unanimously approved. 

Next meetings:
November 22, 2004 (Mr. Parris and Ms. OKeefe indicated that they will not be present.)

December 13, 2004 (The committee discussed having Manager Hickman fill in since Mr. Strayer will not be available.  The committee also discussed changing the meeting to December 20, 2004.  No final decision was made.)

December 27, 2004 (The committee discussed canceling this meeting.)

Adjournment: 9:10 pm. 


Submitted by:
Melanie Schott

Monday
Jan302012

Planning Minutes 10/25/04

GRANVILLE PLANNING COMMISSION
October 25, 2004
Minutes

Members Present:   Jack Burriss, Tom Mitchell, Jackie O'Keefe, Mark Parris (Chair), Tim Riffle, Carl Wilkenfeld (Vice Chair)
Members Absent
Visitors Present:  E. Carr, Bill Heim, Robert Landman
Also Present:  Chris Strayer, Village Planner
The Chair swore in all those who planned to speak.
Citizens Comments:  Bill Heim, Chair of BZBA, introduced himself and stated his concerns about zoning and its effect.  The meeting is not an open public hearing but is open to the public. It was created by Village Council and its rules are governed by the Supreme Court.  They can make decisions in private and their discussions do not have to be public, only their decisions.  They invited the Law Director to talk to them and guide them in their work.  Mr. Heim is available privately and publicly if anyone has questions.

Minutes of September 27, 2004.  Consideration of Minutes was postponed until next meeting.
 
.Old Business:

Elizabeth Carr, 130 East Broadway - Awning

 Mr. Strayer said the awning was tabled for an improved color scheme.  Since then, the applicant and Mr. Strayer have talked and  she brought in a new tan and black striped awning with a black valance.  Gold lettering on the valance will be approved in a separate application.  She is also proposing to repaint the storefront cream with black trim and pillar and a green door.

MR. WILKENFELD MOVED TO TAKE THE APPLICATION OFF THE TABLE.  MR. BURRISS SECONDED, AND MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPRIOVED.

 Mr. Burriss asked for details on the scalloped edge and Ms. Carr explained how the lettering would fit within the space.

MR.MITCHELL MOVED TO APPROVE APPLICATION 04-160.  MR. WILKENFELD SECONDED, AND MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED. 
 
Elizabeth Carr, 130 East Broadway - Awning Lettering

 Ms. Carr showed a draft of how she wanted the lettering to look on the previously approved awning application.  It will have gold lettering.  Of the two submitted samples, the group approved the one on the top of the page, 5.8" by 40".  Lettering will be in the same font as the window sign.

MR. WILKENFELD MOVED TO APPROVE APPLICATION 04-164 WITH THE STIPULATION THAT THE LETTERING BE GOLD AND THAT THE FONT WILL BE AS IN THE EXAMPLE PROVIDED, TOP SAMPLE.  MR. RIFFLE SECONDED, AND MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.

First Baptist Church, 115 West Broadway - Storage Addition


 The applicant wishes to add storage on the west side of the education building with access only from the exterior.  It will be concrete block with siding on the north side to match the proposed doors. No style or drawings were submitted.

 Mr. Parris was unaware of how it would look visually from the drawings submitted.  He is uncomfortable about approving an application with such vague specifications and no elevations.  Others agreed and did not feel they should design the addition here. 

MR. WILKENFELD MOVED TO TABLE APPLICATION PENDING FURTHER DETAILS.  MR. BURRISS SECONDED, AND MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.

Finding of Fact:  MR. WILKENFELD  MOVED TO APPPROVE THE FINDINGS OF FACT FOR ITEM A UNDER OLD BUSINESS AND ITEM A  UNDER NEW BUSINESS, AND WE FIND THEM CONSISTENT WITH THE RELEVANT SECTIONS OF THE ZONING CODE AS OUTLINED IN THE VILLAGE PLANNER'S MEMO OF OCTOBER 25, 2004.  MR. RIFFLE  SECONDED, AND THE MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.

Next Meetings:  November 8 (Betty will be absent Nov. 8) and November 26

Adjournment:  7:50 p.m.

Respectfully submitted,
Betty Allen Hullinger

Monday
Jan302012

Planning Minutes 10/11/04

GRANVILLE PLANNING COMMISSION
October 11, 2004
Minutes

Members Present:   Jack Burriss, Tom Mitchell, Jackie O'Keefe, Mark Parris (Chair), Tim Riffle, Carl Wilkenfeld (Vice Chair)
Members Absent
Visitors Present: Mark Clapsadle, Mark Sween, Kim Brown, Karen Frasca, Doug Frasca, E. Carr, Lisa McKivergin
Also Present:  Chris Strayer, Village Planner
The Chair swore in all those who planned to speak.
Citizens Comments:  None
Minutes of September 27, 2004
 Clapsadle has only one D.  Page 3, under Clapsadle, Line 6, change "fishtail" to fishscale. 
 Page 3, Line 14 from bottom, change "double" to duplicate.
 Page 4, line 2, change "archeological" to architectural.
MR. RIFFLE MOVED TO ACCEPT MINUTES AS AMENDED; MR. BURRISS SECONDED, AND MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED

.Old Business:

Mark Clapsadle, 329 Summit Street (For Mark & Sarah. Sween) _ - Additions

MR. RIFFLE MOVED TO TAKE THE APPLICATION OFF THE TABLE. MR. BURRISS SECONDED, AND MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED
 
Mr. Strayer said this was tabled at the last meeting for design changes.  The applicants have asked if they could have some time tonight to discuss their feelings about the design.  Mr. Sween said he understands GPC's concerns but offered no new drawings. 
 Mr. Parris thought the main concern was the view from the porch.  It takes away from the architectural integrity.  We understand the problems that the houses built in this period have in meeting today's needs, but we would like to be sympathetic to the original part of the old house.  It was the second-story piece that was the biggest concern.
 Mr. Sween said when they bought the house, they knew they would either have to move or expand the house.  The bedrooms are small, but nothing could be found in the village to meet their space needs. They wanted the design to fit in with the neighborhood.   With expansion he wanted the house to look like a unified whole but was having trouble, and Mr. Clapsadle said it was hard not to make it look tacked on. 
 Mr. Riffle stated the addition must be compatible, but this design overwhelms the original rather than being subservient to the main house.    Mr. Sween said the whole front of the house is hard to change, but they wanted it bigger. 
 Mr. Mitchell sees it as an apartment building rather than an addition to a home. It is overwhelming and massive.  The symmetry bothers him.  It makes it look monolithic.
 Mr. Wilkenfeld said a lot of times GPC talks to people and suggests the addition not be as long or high; rather, try to make it deeper so the height does not overwhelm the house.  Move it a couple of feet and make it deeper to lessen the massing.

MR. RIFFLE MOVED TO APPROVE 04-145 AS SUBMITTED; MR. BURRISS SECONDED, AND IT WAS UNANIMOUSLY DENIED BY MAJORITY (Mr. Burriss voted Aye.)

Lisa McKivergin, 124 South Main Street - sign


 Mr. Strayer said this application is to replace the existing sign with three colors. 
 Mr. Burriss added that it was internally lit.
 Ms. McKivergin said in 1992 when the sign was approved there was no information on the application about the colors.  She wanted red, white and blue, and she erected the sign.  The Village did not like it and she replaced it but kept the original in the garage.  Other multicolored signs have been erected in the Village and she hopes to reestablish her original sign.
 Mr. Parris noted the sign code has been rewritten twice since the sign was proposed.  Three colors are OK but internally lit is not OK.  Ms. McKivergin said she would get rid of the internal light. 

MR. MITCHELL MOVED TO APPROVE APPLICATION WITH THE STIPULATION THAT THE SIGN NOT BE INTERNALLY LIT.  MR. RIFFLE SECONDED, AND MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED. 

Doug Frasca, 123 West Broadway - fence

 Mr. Strayer said the application is for a 4' wooden fence with flat pickets and posts from west side of house, along the driveway, stopping at the garage.  A gate will be installed.  The deck and garage will require additional fencing. Mrs. Frasca added that the short fencing enclosing the A.C. units will be removed and replaced with three shrubs and trellis.  It will be a pale ice blue color to match the house trim.  She asked whether they could wait until spring to start and was told Yes.

MR. RIFFLE MOVED TO APPROVE 04-152 WITH THE STIPULATIONS THAT: (1) COLOR IS TO MATCH THE ICE BLUE TRIM OF THE HOUSE; (2) PICKETS WILL BE SQUARE-TOPPED RATHER THAN POINTED; (3) HEIGHT WILL BE 48"; (4) REMOVE FENCE AROUND A.C. AND USE NEW SECTIONS OF FENCE AND SHRUBBERY TO SCREEN A.C.  MR. MITCHELL SECONDED, AND MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.

James Gabriel Brown, 127 South Main Street - driveway

 Mr. Strayer said the application is to remove the old gravel and concrete driveway and replace it with poured exposed aggregate strips with grass in-between and a brick walkway. 
 Mr. Brown added that they will have grass under the window.  They want to get rid of mixed materials and there will be a foundation bed along the house.  The pavers will be brown, a true brick color to match the terra cotta house.

MR. WILKENFELD MOVED TO APPROVE APPLICATION TO DEMOLISH THE OLD CONCRETE.  MR. BURRISS SECONDED, AND MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.

Elizabeth Carr, 130 East Broadway - Awning

 Mr. Strayer said the window sign and change of use were approved at the last meeting.  The awning is in disrepair and they want to replace it with a black awning.  They also want the name of the store on the drop, but that would require another sign permit.  We could temporarily approve the sign or wait to see it
 Ms. Carr said the name is changed to Green Velvet from Mom and Me, and colors will match the gold front window sign.
 Mr. Burriss would like to see the lettering and colors and wondered about an all-black awning.  We did approve B. Hammond's black sign, but her store was bigger.   Black draws heat and will fade on the north side of the street.   All other awnings on that side are brightly colored. Other members agreed, and tan was suggested.    Mr. Paris said that although there is nothing against black in the code, black would not be his first choice.
 Mr. Wilkenfeld suggested softening the black with some gold piping or stripes or other trim.  The applicant said it does not have to be black.
 Mr. Parris said we want to see the (1) awning design; (2) the color; (3) the lettering; and (4) the size.
 Ms. Carr then remarked that she wanted to paint the entire façade of the building black except the green front door.  But Mr. Parris thought it would look like a big hole.  Mr. Burriss said new buildings imitate facades like 130 East Broadway and this one should not be violated.

MR. WILKENFELD MOVED TO TABLE APPLICATION PER REQUEST OF APPLICANT PENDING FURTHER DESIGN WORK.  MR. BURRISS SECONDED, AND MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED. 
 
Finding of Fact:  MR. WILKENFELD  MOVED TO APPPROVE THE FINDINGS OF FACT FOR ITEM A UNDER OLD BUSINESS AND ITEMS A,B,C  UNDER NEW BUSINESS, AND WE FIND THEM CONSISTENT WITH THE RELEVANT SECTIONS OF THE ZONING CODE AS OUTLINED IN THE VILLAGE PLANNER'S MEMO OF OCTOBER 8, 2004.  MR. BURRISS SECONDED, AND THE MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.

Next Meetings:  October 25 and November 8 (Betty will be absent Nov. 8)

Adjournment:  8:40 p.m.

Respectfully submitted,
Betty Allen HullingerPaste minutes here.