Granville Community Calendar

Council Minutes August 2, 1995

AUGUST 2,1995
Vice Mayor Marshall convened the meeting at 7:33 p.m.
Those responding to the roll call were:
Councilmember Garrett
Councilmember Shulman
Councilmember Bennett
Councilmember Freytag
Vice Mayor Marshall
Law Director Hurst
Manager Plunkett
Councilmember Garrett moved to excuse absentee Councilmember Montgomery and
Mayor Eisenberg. Seconded by Councilmember Bennett.
A public hearing was held on Ordinance No. 209- 5.A "n Ordinance To Amend
Section 373. 11 Of The Granville Codified Ordinances Prohibiting Persons From Riding
Skates,In-Line Skates And Other Toy Vehicles On Public Sidewalks In A Business District."
Ned Roberts of 348 East Maple Street stated that he was not against Ordinance No.
20-95 but he would like to see something positive in the village where children can play roller blade hockey. He stated that currently,the hockey players use the high school or the church
parking lot to play hockey. He stated that he thought that the old ice skating rink in Wildwood
would be ideal for roller blading. He stated that he hoped that Council would consider converting the old ice skating rink for roller bladers.
Councilmember Freytag stated that the issue had been discussed at the Recreation
Commission meeting and in his opinion,the idea was received favorably. He stated that there had been concern voiced with the potential liability problems.
Mr. Roberts stated that he had been at the Recreation Commission meeting and street access to the rink had also been discussed. He stated that ifCouncil permits the road to be built to add more parking,that road could lead to the ice rink as well.
Vice Mayor Marshall stated that approval for the road could not be given until the exact location for public water supply well # 4 is decided.
Police Chief Steve Cartnal stated that Ordinance No. 209-5 had been created because ofthe complaints from merchants ofpersons destroying property. He stated that the police department won't be running out and citing everyone who is roller blading on the sidewalks.
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He stated that the police need the authority to control those who get out of line while roller
blading and that bicycles aren't allowed on the sidewalks either but the police aren't issuing
citations. Chief Cartnal stated too,that if the police ask someone to leave the downtown for
roller blading and that person refuses,the police can't do anything about it. He stated that the
ordinance is not intended to cite everyone on roller blades.
Councilmember Garrett noted that an emergency vehicle could get to the ice rink if
needed without the road being built.
The public hearing closed at 7:43 p.m.
A public hearing was held on Ordinance No. 21-95A.n"Ordinance To Amend
Chapters 1105, 1109,1113, 1117,And 1121 Of The Codified Ordinances Of The Village Of
Granville Establishing Subdivision Regulations."
No one was present to speak for or against Ordinance No. 21-95,the public hearing
closed at 7:43 p.m.
The minutes of the regularly scheduled meeting ofJuly 19,1995 were presented for
review. Councilmember Freytag moved to approve the minutes as presented. Seconded by Councilmember Garrett. Motion carried.
Those signing the register were:
Doug Tailford
Steve Cartnal
Matt McGowan
Mark Zarbaugh
Ned Roberts
Chris Kemah
No questions,comments,or concerns were voiced at this time.
Steve & Carol Tunnicliffe
Tim Hughes
Councilmember Freytag reported on the Recreation Commission meeting ofAugust 1, 1995. At that meeting,the old ice rink being converted to a roller blading area was discussed. The commission has two vacancies which they are actively trying to fill. The commission didn't seem to have an interest in the Village's 17 acre plat east ofthe Sewage Treatment Plant for potential recreation areas. He stated that the commission felt that the area was out of the way and there may be an access problem. There wasn't an official vote on the issue. The commission voted to change their constitution to have a fourth appointed member. Currently the commission appoints a Councilmember,a trustee,and a school board member. There will
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now be a school employee appointed in order to have someone at the school involved with
Ordinance No. 209- 5,A "n Ordinance To Amend Section 373. 11 Of The Granville
Codified Ordinances Prohibiting Persons From Riding Skates,In-Line Skates And Other Toy
Vehicles On Public Sidewalks In A Business Districtw,"as reintroduced,title read,and
moved for adoption by Councilmember Garrett. Seconded by Councilmember Bennett.
Councilmember Bennett stated that he had initially been opposed to the ordinance but
his view had changed after reading the Police Chief' s memo and hearing his comments
tonight. He stated that he had talked to several elderly citizens who were concerned as much
with roller bladers as with joggers. He stated that he has a concern that ifthe youngsters
couldn't use the sidewalks,they may use the streets and that could be dangerous.
Councilmember Freytag stated that he remains opposed to the ordinance for reasons
stated at the last Council meeting. He stated that in his opinion,the present law is sufficient to
address the problem of destruction of property. He stated that he felt the current law
prohibiting bicycles and skateboards probably would not hold up in a court of law. He stated
that he could not support passing a law that is not valid and to do so would encourage disrespect for the law. He stated that if the ordinance was changed to deal with the real
problem he would be able to support it.
Councilmember Garrett stated that she saw potential problems with elderly people
being knocked down by roller bladers or bicycles. She stated that she didn't like to see kids
restricted on these things and perhaps the ordinance could be written another way;perhaps stating irresponsible roller blading is prohibited.
Vice Mayor Marshall stated that it was conduct that Council is concerned with. He
stated that he didn't think it was necessary to limit the entire activity,but the village should be able to control it roller blading.
Councilmember Bennett noted that if roller blading was the worst thing Granville had to worry about with teenagers,its a blessed village.
Councilmember Garrett moved to table Ordinance No. 20-95 in order for the law
director amend it. Seconded by Councilmember Freytag. Motion carried. Ordinance No. 20- 95 was tabled.
Ordinance No. 21-95.A "n Ordinance To Amend Chapters 1105, 1109,1113, 1117, And 1121 OfThe Codified Ordinances OfThe Village OfGranville Establishing Subdivision Regulationsw,a"s reintroduced,title read,and moved for adoption by Councilmember Shulman. Seconded by Councilmember Freytag.
Council Shulman expressed concern with the righto- fw-ay widths being too narrow. Village Planner Doug Tailford explained that the minimum right-of-way is 60 foot. He
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stated that the Village can require more than 60 foot if they feel it necessary. He stated that the
village may never need to use the entire 60 foot but it will be there in case it's needed.
Councilmember Shulman asked for a brief summary of the items that had been
changed in the regulations.
Mr. Tailford stated that access management had been added to give the village
authority to determine where roads and intersections would be placed. He stated that reverse
frontage had been added to allow more open space in some areas,and a new chapter on
environmental land use to protect wooded areas has been added. One of the biggest changes
will require a more detailed preliminary plat. Street lights and street name signs were
standardized. He stated that the chapter brings the regulations up to date.
Councilmember Shulman questioned the cul-de-sac length.
Doug Tailford stated that the maximum cul-de-sac length would be 1500 foot.
Councilmember Garrett expressed concern with private roads becoming public. She
asked if anything should be added to prohibit private streets from becoming public without
being up to village standards?
Manager Plunkett stated that there was an ordinance stating that a private road could
not connect two public streets. He stated that he believed it was adopted two years Councilmember ago. Bennett stated that in Section 1109.11, the first sentence should be
changed to read T"he Planning Commission may,on its own motion or upon the petition by
any resident ofthe municipality or neighboring property ownersi.n.s.te.a.d" of citizens
because council is responsible to the tax paying residents and if one is not a resident ofthe
village,council shouldn't be footing the bill to hold public hearings. Mr. Bennett expressed
concern with the zoning fees and asked how they compared with other municipalities the size of Granville.
Mr. Tailford stated that Granville's fees were more expensive than any in Licking
County. He stated that he did not compare the fees with similar sized communities. He stated that he was concerned with recouping some of the costs for reviews,copies,and postage. He stated that the fees don't come close to paying the entire amount. He stated that the fees are
cheaper than Dublin's,but more expensive than any in Licking County. He stated that staff members of Heath and other areas would like to adopt an increased fee structure.
Mr. Bennett stated that section 1115.01 speaks off"eatures which may reasonably be harmful or detrimental to the safety,health and welfare of present or future residents ofthe subject or surrounding areasH..e."stated that he had heard that language used before and it is sometimes a two way sword. He stated that he felt the language was subjective and meant different things to different people.
Law Director Hurst suggested changing the language to fe"atures which may reasonably be considered environmentally harmful or detrimental to health,safety and welfare of present or future residents".
After a discussion,Councilmember Garrett moved to adopt the ordinance as amended. Seconded by Councilmember Freytag.
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Roll call vote: Garrett yes,Shulman yes,Montgomery absent,Bennett yes,Freytag
yes,Marshall yes,Mayor Eisenberg absent. Five yes votes,two members absent. Ordinance
No. 21-95 was adopted.
Law Director Hurst stated that Mr. Tailford and the Planning Commission should be
commended for the effort and thought in the updating process. He stated that he thought they
did an extremely good job.
Councilmember Shulman asked how much the signs in the crosswalk had been
Service Director Mark Zarbaugh stated that the signs were suppose to be seven feet to
the grade of the ground. He stated that the installers measured from the concrete basin that the
sign is put on,and not from the ground.
Mr. Bennett asked if there had been any indication when or if Marathon would appeal
the BZBA's decision?
Manager Plunkett stated that the BZBA had not yet issued its fact-of-finding.
Councilmember Freytag stated that he did not know how to comment on the letter
from SEM Partners concerning the old middle school.
Manager Plunkett stated that the question indirectly is d'*oes the community have an objection to use of a school in a residential zone?Af"ter a discussion,Manager Plunkett
stated that he would write a letter and tell them that any of the permitted used according to the
zoning code would be acceptable,and suggest that they have a work session with the
Planning Commission.
Service Director Mark Zarbaugh stated that he had looked throughout the village for
sidewalks that could be built this year. He stated that the sidewalk along New Burg Street is in bad shape and could be widened and fixed up with Phase I ofthe project currently out to bid.
He stated that that project could be completed without the formal bidding process. He stated that he thought perhaps some of the sidewalk corners in the downtown could be improved to allow handicap accessible curb cuts. He stated that two or three could be completed without formal bidding.
Councilmember Shulman stated that at one time Council had discussed having a different treatment in crosswalks. He stated that Council may want to have those crosswalks designed so that when the State is ready to pave SR 661 the Village would be ready. expensiMvea.rk Zarbaugh stated that brick sidewalks would be the way to go but would be very
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Manager Plunkett stated that he was reluctant to do the design for the bricking until it
was known when the state would be coming through to pave. He stated that the village will
have too many designs and nothing being built.
Councilmember Freytag expressed concern that the money in the sidewalk fund be
used for new sidewalks for residents who currently have none. He stated that in his opinion,if
the Village couldn't build sidewalks this year,the money should be saved until next year
when new sidewalks were able to be built instead of looking for projects that are not needed.
Manager Plunkett stated that additional monies could be appropriated to the sidewalk
fund for the handicap accessible curb cuts if council desired.
After a discussion,Service Director Mark Zarbaugh was directed to find out how
much it would cost to make the downtown curbs handicap accessible. It was agreed that when
the bids came in,council would be asked if a change order would be acceptable to add the
other section of sidewalk.
Councilmember Garrett moved to adjourn the meeting at 9:17 p.m. Seconded by
Councilmember Bennett. Motion carried.

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