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Council Minutes 9/15/04

 VILLAGE OF GRANVILLE COUNCIL MINUTES September 15, 2004

CALL TO ORDER (by Mayor Robertson at 7:30 pm) 

PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE 

ROLL CALL Those responding to the roll call were, Councilmembers Hartfield, OKeefe, Herman, Vice Mayor Lucier, and Mayor Robertson; Manager Hickman and Law Director Crites. Motion carried. Vice Mayor Lucier moved to excuse Councilmembers Barsky and Main. Seconded by Councilmember OKeefe.

 APPROVAL OF AGENDA (7:34 pm) Councilmember Herman moved to accept the agenda as presented, seconded by Councilmember OKeefe. Motion carried.

 CITIZENS COMMENTS (7:34 pm) Mayor Robertson and Vice Mayor Lucier reported on their recent trip to Granville, Massachusetts. They passed out samples of cheese that was made there. Mayor Robertson stated that there was a historic pageant that Granville, Ohio was featured in. Vice Mayor Lucier stated that the pageant showed reenactments of people from Granville, Massachusetts saying goodbye to the people migrating westward to Granville, Ohio. Mayor Robertson stated that they were given a grand tour of Granville, Massachusetts, which is quite large geographically, with 77 miles of road. Vice Mayor Lucier stated that apples are a major crop there, and Mayor Robertson stated that Granville, Massachusetts is a farming community of about 1500 people. 

 No one else appeared to speak under Citizens Comments.

 Mayor Robertson closed public comments at 7:43 pm.

 PUBLIC HEARING (7:44 pm) Ordinance No. 22-04, An Ordinance To Amend Section 1189.10 Of The Codified Ordinances Of The Village Of Granville, Ohio, To Create Uniform Regulations In the Village Sign Code For Temporary Signs. 

 Discussion: No one appeared to speak.

 Ordinance No. 23-04, An Ordinance Granting A Non- Exclusive Franchise To Frontier Vision Operating Partners, L.P. D/B/A Adelphia Cable Communications (The Grantee) To Construct, Operate, And Maintain A Cable System In The Village Of Granville, Ohio (The Grantor); Setting Forth The Terms And Conditions Accompanying The Grant Of The Franchise; And Providing For Regulation And Use Of The System. Discussion: Jim Prentice, 211 Wicklow Drive, spoke to Council in regards to cable television. Mr. Prentice stated that cable television used to have safe television shows for children to watch. He stated that he doesnt believe this to be the case anymore. Mr. Prentice stated that he believes Nickelodeon television is owned by Viacom, who also owns MTV. He stated that he believes Nickelodeon is attempting to graduate their audience to watch MTV. He stated that he thinks it is a mistake to call MTV music television because there is very little music, but instead more reality type television shows. Mr. Prentice stated that he and his wife feel there are inappropriate promos and commercials during childrens programs on cable television. He stated that page 9 of the cable franchise agreement states that the cable company must provide parental control options at a reasonable cost to the consumer. He stated that he purchased this option with his digital cable, but it does not block out promos and commercials. He stated that it does block out services like MTV, rated R or PG13 programming. Mr. Prentice stated that he has also heard four letter words on CSPAN, and he remarked about an incident that happened during the Superbowl half-time show this year. Mr. Prentice stated that he has downgraded his cable service to basic cable which costs $18.00 per month. He stated he only turns on the weather and traffic stations. He stated that he needs basic cable because the neighborhood that he lives in doesnt allow a television antenna. Mr. Prentice stated that he is going to work with Village Planner, Chris Strayer, on where he might be able to place a television antenna, and he hopes his neighbors wont object. Mr. Prentice stated that it is his gut instinct that the majority of people in Granville want cable service. He stated that he just wanted to voice in a public forum that not 100% of the people living in Granville view cable television in a positive light. 

Mr. Prentice inquired on the timeframe for the next franchise agreement with Adelphia Cable. Law Director Crites stated that the agreement being looked at does not automatically renew, and it will be looked at again in five years.

Councilmember OKeefe asked if Mr. Prentice knew of any alternative cable companies. She stated that she does not have cable service. Mr. Prentice stated that he is not aware of any, but believed any other choices would involve a satellite or dish setup.

Eleanor Collin, East Broadway, spoke to Council in regards to the Adelphia Cable franchise agreement. She first asked what Mr. Prentice was proposing. She asked if he was before Council to address whether or not he should be allowed to have an antenna, and what did he want Council to do. She asked if he was suggesting that Council not renew the franchise agreement? Mr. Prentice stated that the antenna permission would be a side issue and he would see Mr. Strayer about that. Mayor Robertson asked Ms. Collin and Mr. Prentice to address Council, rather than each other. Ms. Collin inquired on Frontier Cable Company and asked if they are buying Adelphia Cable. She stated that she doesnt have children, but she also doesnt understand Mr. Prentices statements. Ms. Collin stated that she is interested in the franchise continuing because she enjoys the music channels available with digital television.

 Mr. Prentice stated that he expects the franchise agreement between Adelphia Cable and the Village of Granville to continue. He stated that he wanted to say that he is one person in the village who does not like cable television. He stated that this is his best chance to say something in a public forum. 

Mayor Robertson stated that later on when the representative from Adelphia Cable speaks, Mr. Prentice and Ms. Collins questions/comments could be addressed. 

 NEW BUSINESS (7:58 pm) Resolution No. 04-57, A Resolution Adopting The Council Decision And Findings And Conclusions Of Fact In The Matter Of The Appeal Of Joan E. And Gilbert L. Krone From The Decision Of The Planning Commission Of The Village Of Granville was introduced by Councilmember OKeefe. Second by Councilmember Herman.

Discussion: None. Motion carried (5-0). Resolution No. 04-57 is adopted.

 Ordinance No. 24-04, An Ordinance Approving And Adopting The Bail Bond And Guilty Waivers Schedule For The Village Of Granville, Licking County, Ohio, was introduced by Councilmember Herman. Second by Councilmember OKeefe.

Vice Mayor Lucier indicated that she had not received Exhibit A in her packet. Other members of Council stated that they too did not receive Exhibit A. Manager Hickman stated that he would take care of getting Exhibit A to all of Council.

Mayor Robertson scheduled the public hearing for October 6, 2004. 

 Ordinance No. 25-04, An Ordinance To Amend Ordinance No. 26-03 Providing For Adjustments Of The Annual Budget For The Fiscal Year 2004 And Revising Sums For Operating Expenses, was introduced by Councilmember OKeefe. Second by Councilmember Herman. 

Mayor Robertson scheduled the public hearing for October 6, 2004. 

 

 OLD BUSINESS Ordinance No. 22-04, An Ordinance To Amend Section 1189.10 Of The Codified Ordinances Of The Village Of Granville, Ohio, To Create Uniform Regulations In the Village Sign Code For Temporary Signs was reintroduced by Vice Mayor Lucier. Second by Councilmember OKeefe. 

Discussion: Councilmember OKeefe stated that there is a typo on the second page  four lines from the bottom. She stated that it should read shall be placed within fifteen feet.

Vice Mayor Lucier stated that the old sign Ordinance had a distinction between political signs and election signs. She stated that the new Ordinance seems to put these types of signs in the same category. Vice Mayor Lucier asked if there are any limits on how long a sign, not connected to an election, can stay up? Law Director Crites stated that election signs would need to come down within ten days of an election. He stated that the other types of political signs Vice Mayor Lucier is referring to would fall in the thirty day category. 

She asked if a sign placed in front of a home that is being painted is considered a temporary sign. Law Director Crites read aloud Section 1189.03 in regards to temporary signs. The section stated that temporary signs are signs that are used temporarily and are not permanently mounted. Law Director Crites stated that he believes it would be considered a temporary sign, but he would need to further investigate this information for Vice Mayor Lucier. 

Vice Mayor Lucier asked what time restrictions there are on signs advertising commercial services? Law Director Crites stated that if we assume these types of signs are temporary, it can be left up for thirty days unless damaged or deteriorated. Vice Mayor Lucier asked what would happen if the sign is not damaged or deteriorated  can the sign stay up longer? She asked if there were any restrictions on the amount of time this kind of sign can be permitted. Manager Hickman asked Vice Mayor Lucier if she was asking that temporary signs for commercial services should have a time restriction? He later suggested that Council might want to look at making a restriction. 

Vice Mayor Lucier stated that signs advertising for commercial services, such as a house getting painted, are not approved by the Planning Commission. She stated that the code does not specify time restrictions for these types of signs. Councilmember Hartfield stated that it would be ridiculous to get approval for placing a sign in front of someones house when it is getting painted. Vice Mayor Lucier stated that she was not saying that people should get approval, but there is nothing in the code suggesting how long this type of sign can stay up. 

Manager Hickman stated that the code could state that contractor signs should not be up no more than thirty days. Councilmember Hartfield asked what if someone is working on a house for six months? She stated that many people use these signs for advertising what kind of work they do. 

Law Director Crites stated that the areas being discussed by Council were not reviewed. He stated that his purpose (for Ordinance 22-04) was to look at the election signs and their constitutionality. He stated that he would be happy to further look into these comments made in regards to temporary signs. He urged Council to pass the Ordinance and stated he would further research the questions raised by Vice Mayor Lucier. 

Mayor Robertson stated that realtor signs needs to be approved by the Planning Commission one time, and then they are free to place all of their signs wherever. She stated that perhaps this type of situation (commercial service signs) would fall under the same category. 

Vice Mayor Lucier stated that she appreciated Law Director Crites looking at the free speech issue and preparing Ordinance 22-04, and she whole-heartedly agrees with the conclusion. 

Roll call vote: Lucier, OKeefe, Robertson, Hartfield, Herman. (5-0)

Ordinance No. 22-04 is adopted.

Mayor Robertson stated that with the adoption of Ordinance No. 22-04, the Village is now considered to be Constitutional in this area. 

 Ordinance No. 23-04, An Ordinance Granting A Non- Exclusive Franchise To Frontier Vision Operating Partners, L.P. D/B/A Adelphia Cable Communications (The Grantee) To Construct, Operate, And Maintain A Cable System In The Village Of Granville, Ohio (The Grantor); Setting Forth The Terms And Conditions Accompanying The Grant Of The Franchise; And Providing For Regulation And Use Of The System.

Discussion: Rick Whaley, General Manager for Adelphia Cable, spoke to Council in regards to the franchise agreement. He stated that Adelphia Cable bought Frontier Vision five years ago, and they do business as Adelphia Cable. Mr. Whaley stated that the legal entity name is Frontier Vision Cable. Mr. Whaley stated that it is up to all of us to monitor what our children see on cable television. He suggested that Mr. Prentice should write to the FCC about his concerns. Mr. Whaley stated that cable companies are required to provide parental control devices, and that these devices do not allow you to block out promos or commercials. He stated that commercials pay for the programming and this is up to the owner of the program, not the cable company. Mr. Whaley stated that there really is no such thing as live television since the Superbowl incident earlier this year. He stated that all live television is required by the FCC to have a six second delay. Vice Mayor Lucier inquired on the technology to block out programming. Mr. Whaley stated that it is only available with digital cable and it will block out PG 13 and R rated programming. He stated that it can also block out an entire program, but not commercials or promos.

Mayor Robertson inquired on the franchise fee, and asked if Granville was receiving money? Manager Hickman stated that Granville does not charge a franchise fee. Mr. Whaley stated that there is an option to have 5% of the money come back to the village. Vice Mayor Lucier asked if there is a 5% reduction to customers since Granville is waiving this 5% fee. Mr. Whaley stated that if Granville wanted the fee, it would be an additional 5% on the cable bill, and it would range from $.95 to $1.25 per customer. Councilmember OKeefe asked if it was customary for municipalities to waive the fee. Mr. Whaley stated that about 25% - 30% of the municipalities charge a 5% fee. He stated that most of these areas have always charged a fee, and they rarely see new fees instituted. 

Mr. Whaley commended Law Director Crites on his negotiating skills and work on this franchise agreement. Vice Mayor Lucier inquired on what successes Law Director Crites had in negotiations. Law Director Crites explained that he is still in negotiations with Adelphia Cable, and he would be happy to share more information after they have closed the agreement. Mr. Whaley stated that the agreement began as a twenty year agreement, but after negotiations with Mr. Crites, it is now a five year agreement. He stated that another change includes Adelphia Cable providing notification to the Village if they plan to do any tree trimming. Mr. Whaley stated that 90% of cable line trimming is done by the power companies, and not by Adelphia Cable. Mr. Whaley stated that a new section will be added to the agreement which will allow for periodic annual reviews to be reported back to Council. 

Mayor Robertson inquired on whether or not public buildings receive free cable service. Mr. Whaley stated that all public buildings can receive free cable service, including township buildings, schools, and the Village fire and police. Councilmember OKeefe asked if the free cable service is the same service received in homes. Mr. Whaley stated yes. It was stated that Mr. Prentices concerns in regards to cable programming could pertain to the cable being shown at the schools, and that he could contact the Board of Education in this matter. 

Councilmember Herman inquired on what lines of business the cable companies support. Mr. Whaley stated cable television service, digital cable service, hi-definition cable service, and high speed internet. Councilmember Herman asked if they foresee any additional types of services being offered. Mr. Whaley stated video on demand and DVR (similar to Tivo) will be available in the future. 

Vice Mayor Lucier asked if you need to subscribe to the free services offered into public buildings. Mr. Whaley stated that high speed internet service is not included at a free charge, but basic cable service is.

Councilmember Herman made a motion to table Ordinance No. 23-04 pending further review and the attendance of tonights absent Councilmembers. Seconded by Councilmember OKeefe.

Ordinance No. 23-04 is tabled. 

 

REVIEW OF MINUTES Regularly Scheduled Meeting of September 1, 2004 Councilmember Herman moved to accept the minutes as amended; seconded by Councilmember OKeefe. Motion carried, 5-0. 

MAYORS COURT REPORT  June The Mayors Court Report for the month of June was presented for review for a second time. Council had asked for further explanation on an area with blank information. Manager Hickman stated that these blank areas should contain zeros. 

Council unanimously voted to accept the Mayors Court Report for the month of June. 

Mayor Robertson instructed the report be filed with the Clerk. A copy of the said report is included as part of these Minutes. 

MAYORS COURT REPORT  July and August The Mayors Court Reports for the months of July and August were presented for review.

Discussion: Chief Cartnal was in attendance to address any comments/concerns Council might have. 

Vice Mayor Lucier thanked Chief Cartnal for enforcing the no parking on a sidewalk/curb lawn. She stated that she noticed an increase in citations for the month of August. 

Councilmember OKeefe inquired in the increase in drug use and drug paraphernalia charges. She asked if this was a result of Denison being back in session. Chief Cartnal stated that these are not related to Denison and they are unfortunately periodic occurrences. 

Councilmember Hartfield moved to accept the July and August reports; seconded by Councilmember Herman. Motion carried 5-0.

 Mayor Robertson instructed that the reports be filed with the Clerk. A copy of the said reports are included as part of these Minutes. 

 

 MANAGERS REPORT  August The Managers Report for the month of August was presented for review. 

Discussion: Chief Cartnal stated that he was made aware by Manager Hickman that Council was concerned about increases in crime and how this information is tracked and reported back to Council. He stated that the FBI requires him to turn in a Uniform Crime Report, which he provided for Council. He stated that this report tracks burglaries, robberies, rapes, and murders. He stated that it does not include traffic type incidents, or underage consumption of alcohol. 

Chief Cartnal stated that there is an error in the Managers Report. He stated that the mileage for the Taurus should not read 4000 miles, but instead zero miles. He stated this would also change the total mileage for the month of August. 

Vice Mayor Lucier stated that about ten years ago universities were told that their crime statistics needed to be publicized. She asked if Chief Cartnals numbers include the Denison University statistics. Chief Cartnal stated that Denison is required to report any felonies back to them. 

Councilmember Herman stated that he has noticed a decrease in the number of home burglaries. Chief Cartnal stated that this is true, but he has however noticed an increase in car break-ins. Mayor Robertson stated that all of the numbers (all incidences) in Chief Cartnals report are under ten for the entire year. It was stated that many incidences show a zero.

Chief Cartnal distributed a sheet depicting the types of calls coming into the police department. He indicated that several things like road rage incidents and reckless motorist calls are rising and this was not the case five or six years ago. He stated that the availability of cell phones may be a reason why more of these types of calls are coming in. 

Chief Cartnal also stated that domestic disputes on the graph depict a sharp increase for 2002. He stated there were 41 incidents, and that this is double any other year. He wondered if this rise can be attributed to the economy at that time and 9/11. 

Mayor Robertson inquired on the increase in parking complaints from 1999 to 2000. Chief Cartnal stated that parking permits were distributed at that time for particular residents on Burg Street. He stated that the police did not enforce the parking permits, unless asked to by the residents. Chief Cartnal stated that this increase is a result of calls coming from those residents. 

Councilmember Hartfield inquired on the parking lot phenomenon near Napa Auto Parts. Chief Cartnal stated that he was contacted by the property owner and was aware that this has become a gathering place for young people. He stated that the property owner did talk to people gathering at his business, and explained that he didnt have a problem with them being there if they would not leave trash on the premises. Chief Cartnal stated that after three days, the trash problem was not cleaned up, and actually got worse. He stated that at the request of the property owner, the police are asking people not to gather in this location.

Vice Mayor Lucier stated that this information is very helpful and she thanked Chief Cartnal for his work. 

 Vice Mayor Lucier moved to accept the August report; seconded by Councilmember Hartfield. Motion carried 5-0.

 Mayor Robertson instructed the report be filed with the Clerk. A copy of said report is included as part of these Minutes. 

COMMITTEE REPORTS 

Economic, Finance, Personnel Committee (EFP)  Hartfield, Herman, Lucier Councilmember Herman stated that the committee is looking at some personnel issues in regards to raises, and the administration has been asked to run some different scenarios and report back as soon as possible. He went on to say that they are also looking at some possible provisions in the managers contract. 

Councilmember Herman commended Molly Roberts for being extraordinary successful in her ability to acquire health care coverage for village employees at the same premium rate of last year with the same coverage benefits and providers.

Councilmember Herman stated that there will be some upcoming discussions with Adelphia Cable.

Councilmember Herman reminded Council that there will be a September 29th meeting with River Road property owners in regards to a possible annexation. The meeting will be at Earl Shurtz business on Main Street. 

Light, Safety, Sts/Sidewalks, Utility Committee (LSSU)  Lucier, Hartfield, Main No Report Planning Commission  OKeefe Councilmember OKeefe stated that discussions on 116 East Broadway were tabled until the boundaries are further discussed/researched. She stated that the issue of part of the changes being located on village property will be discussed in the Planning and Zoning Committee on September 23, 04. Vice Mayor Lucier asked if this issue will come before Council. Councilmember OKeefe stated that it will eventually come before Council, but will first go to the Planning and Zoning Committee. 

Councilmember OKeefe stated that the Planning Commission will have discussions concerning the JEDD at their next meeting. 

Planning & Zoning Committee (P&Z)  Barsky, OKeefe, Robertson No Report

Senior Committee  Robertson No Report

Union Cemetery Main No Report 

 OTHER COUNCIL MATTERS Licking County Convention & Visitors Bureau  Mayor Robertson stated that the bureau is seeking a member of Council to serve on the committee. She asked for anyone interested to let her know. She stated that the committee will meet one time per month and when Councilmember OKeefe asked what time she stated she believed it would be around 9:30am. Mayor Robertson stated that the letter of request asked to have nominations in by September 15th, but she was sure they would be happy to get any nominations, even late ones. Councilmember Herman stated that he thought (by the sound of the letter) that the bureau was seeking individuals from certain areas. Mayor Robertson stated that through her conversations with Marcia Phelps, she felt that a member of Council would be appropriate. It was stated that the Mayors from Heath and Newark attend the meetings. Mayor Robertson asked for this issue to be placed on the agenda for the next Council meeting. 

Community Connections Facilitator  It was stated that the meeting will be September 27th, 04. Councilmember OKeefe stated that the Planning Commission also meets on the 27th, so she will not be able to make the meeting. Councilmember Herman stated that he would not be able to make the meeting, but he thought Councilmember Barsky could. Councilmember Herman stated that the Village, Township, Chamber of Commerce, and Schools were all asked to be represented at the Community Connection meeting. Councilmember OKeefe asked if there were minutes from the meeting. Councilmember Herman stated that he did not have any detailed information. He stated that he was unsure what the agenda of the next upcoming meeting would be. He stated that he had not had an opportunity to check his email that evening, and there could be an email pertaining to the meeting agenda. Councilmember Herman stated that he was not sure if this meeting was going to be a follow-up to a previous meeting that Councilmember Barsky had attended. He stated that he was not able to be there, but he was told that several people with interests in areas of development were asked to attend. He stated that there has been some discussion about forming panels, but he is not sure what roles they would play, or who would be asked to serve on them.

Mayor Robertson stated that she too was not aware of the content of the September 27th meeting, and that she did had a conversation with Pat Moller. Council referred to a $600 fee for a facilitator at the meeting, and that Council was being asked to contribute $150 as their contribution for the facilitator. She stated that she was told by Ms. Moller that the $600 fee used to pay the facilitator would be for six hours of work, and that this work would not just include the meeting time. She stated that she was told that there would also need to be some preparation work done. Mayor Robertson stated that she feels it would be wise for the facilitator to meet with each of the four entities (Village, Township, Chamber of Commerce, and School District). 

Councilmember OKeefe asked if there was a formal request for the village to make a contribution for the facilitator. Councilmember Herman stated that he and Councilmember Barsky were emailed. 

Councilmember Hartfield stated that she could ask Pat Moller to send an outline to all Council members. 

Councilmember Herman stated that he saw two issues. The first was the payment for the facilitator, and the second was what will be taking place at the meeting. 

Vice Mayor Lucier stated that she does have concerns with what will happen at the meeting. She stated that she did attend the second big meeting, where three committees were formed. The first was Commercial Development, the second was Residential Control/Development, and the third Data. She stated that she would have some reservations paying for a facilitator if the input from these three committees is not included. She stated that the committee she was on did a good deal of work on commercial development and some of the difficulties associated with commercial development, and she didnt want to see this aspect not be included. Councilmember OKeefe stated that she agreed with Vice Mayor Lucier, and that the facilitator should contact all four entities, as well as each of the three sub-committees. 

Mayor Robertson suggested that perhaps Council could approve the expenditure pending further explanation of the concerns raised by Council. She stated that she would not have a problem appropriating more money if it meant the facilitator would meet with representatives from Council, as well as the other groups and sub-committees. 

Councilmember OKeefe asked if there was a title to the meeting. Councilmember Herman stated that she has seen all of the information he has, and to his knowledge there isnt a title. Mayor Robertson stated that all of the information received by Council isnt really an explanation of the meeting. Councilmember OKeefe asked if someone could go back to Ms. Moller and get further information on these concerns raised by Council. Councilmember Herman stated that there could be an agenda, that he just hasnt received. Mayor Robertson stated that she has been copied on emails coming from Councilmember Herman, but she has not received any emails from Pat Moller. 

Councilmember Herman stated that he was not sure what the goal of the facilitator is. He stated that he wants to be supportive, but he senses some process concerns and wonders what exactly Council would be buying. He suggested approving the expenditure as long as an agenda is provided and some ground work is done before the meeting on the 27th. He stated that it appears Council is in agreement that they would like the facilitator to meet with a representative from Council, as well as have discussion/input from someone that was on each of the sub- committees before the September 27th meeting. Councilmember Herman stated that he would be willing to contact Ms. Moller the following day with the concerns raised by Council.

Vice Mayor Lucier stated that she would not be supportive of this because she fears the September 27th meeting could be an attempt to move the commercial development issue forward, while excluding input from other sub-committees. She stated that there is not enough time for the facilitator to do a thorough job and meet with all of the entities and sub-committees. Councilmember OKeefe agreed. 

Councilmember Hartfield stated that it would be wise to not jump to conclusions. She stated that Council is not sure what the agenda for the meeting is. 

Mayor Robertson agreed with Councilmember Hartifield. She stated that Council needs to go into this with a positive attitude about what is being planned, but they do need to be aware of what it is that is being planned. She stated that she would be satisfied, personally, if the facilitator does his homework and we have an agenda before the meeting. Councilmember Herman stated that he would be less comfortable contacting Pat Moller with no consensus from Council. He suggested that Mayor Robertson should do the contacting. Mayor Robertson stated that she would have a conversation with Ms. Moller and let her know of Councils concerns, but she would still need the authority from Council to appropriate the money. Manager Hickman stated that the funds are available and a requisition could be made out at any time. He stated that he is not worried about the appropriation, but more that Council is in agreement. Mayor Robertson stated that she could contact Ms. Moller and let her know that a majority of Council would be supportive of appropriating the money if the said list of things happen, and Council would not be supportive of spending the money for the facilitator if these things dont happen. Mayor Robertson stated that when she contacts Ms. Moller, she needs to know she is backed by this Council. Councilmember Herman stated that he would like to see an agenda and what the goals for the meeting are, and he would then support spending the fee for the facilitator.

Vice Mayor Lucier stated that she would support the contribution to hire a facilitator if the meeting would include information from all three sub-committees, and not just focus on commercial development. 

Councilmember Hartfield stated that she felt people were jumping to conclusions and it is important to remember why the Community Connection Committee was started. She stated that Council should stay in the spirit that this started for the good will of the community. 

Mayor Robertson stated that she will make Pat Moller aware of several concerns she is hearing from this Council. The first is an agenda with a goal stated, representation from all three sub-committees, and having the facilitator do some preliminary work with these sub-committees. 

Councilmember OKeefe stated that Council doesnt want to give ultimatums, but to make their concerns heard. 

Vice Mayor Lucier stated that there is no point is having these other sub-committees if their input isnt counted. 

Manager Hickman ended by saying the money is available in an account and a requisition could be made out. 

 ADJOURNMENT (9:26 pm) Councilmember OKeefe moved to adjourn. Second by Hartfield. Motion carried, 5-0. Meeting adjourned.

 

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