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Council Minutes May 16, 2012


May 16, 2012


CALL TO ORDER (by Mayor Hartfield at 7:31pm) 



Those responding to the roll call were Councilmembers Johnson, Lerner, Montgomery, O’Keefe, Vice Mayor Barsky, Mayor Hartfield, Manager Stillwell and Law Director Crites. 

Councilmember Lerner moved to excuse Councilmember McGowan.  Second by Vice Mayor Barsky.  Motion passed.


Councilmember Lerner moved to approve the agenda as presented.  Seconded by Vice Mayor Barsky.  Motion carried.    


As no one appeared to speak, Mayor Hartfield closed Citizen Comments at 7:33pm. 


Andy Wildman, Executive Director, and Kraig Koester, Board Member of the Granville Recreation District, appeared before Council to advise Council of the GRD’s plans regarding building a community center and aquatic centers.  Mr. Koester indicated that the GRD was interested in making a final determination as to what the community would be willing to support. 

Director Wildman advised Council that the results of a survey completed by the GRD showed that 74% of the District’s residents wanted a community center.  The GRD has hired the engineering firm of Brandstetter Carroll Inc. to develop and complete a feasibility study to determine the community’s interest in supporting a community center and aquatic centers.  The study would provide the community with potential designs, capital and operating costs.  A statistically valid survey of 400 district residents will be completed this summer.  Once the results of the survey are in, the GRD would determine whether to place a levy on the November ballot.  The GRD advised Council that they intend to keep advised of the progress. 

Councilmember O’Keefe asked how the individuals surveyed would be selected.  Director Wildman indicated that the firm would independently select individuals from the entire school district area; selecting four hundred respondents.  

Mayor Hartfield asked if anything specific had been set or determined.  Director Wildman indicated that no specifics had been determined.  Boardmember Koester responded that the survey will determine the community’s willingness to finance these future projects. 

Vice Mayor Barsky asked Director Wildman if he had looked at the Odessa survey results that indicated that a community center was not high on the community’s wish list.  She also commented that the community deserved to know the location of any of these projects prior to placing a levy on the ballot. 


Ordinance No. 06-2012, An Ordinance to Adopt the 2012 Joint Granville Township and Village of Granville Comprehensive Plan. 


Dan Bellman, 310 Summit Street, commented that the company hired to develop the Comprehensive Plan in 2006 was a mistake.  The Plan has become a bigger mistake as time has passed.  It would be an even bigger mistake to pass the Plan being proposed.  Mr. Bellman asserted that MSI Principal Keith Myers commented to the Comprehensive Plan Steering Committee that this Plan was bad and a bad plan cannot be revised.  The Committee should have started the process over and wrote a good plan.  The 1998 Comprehensive Plan had vast community involvement, was completed in record speed and used local professionals in the production of a plan.  The 1998 Plan was a good plan.  The Comprehensive Steering Committee should have made adjustments to the 1998 Plan.  The language in the current plan is ambiguous and allowed for different interpretations. Mr. Bellman asked Council if they wanted to continue their mistake by approving the Plan presented.  

Councilmember O’Keefe asked Mr. Bellman what his specific objections to the Plan were.  Mr. Bellman indicated that the Plan was a badly written document.  The impact of the proposed Plan will lower my property values, encourage the overcrowding of schools and raise taxes. He indicated that a more specific problem was that the proposed Plan did not prohibit fast food restaurants.  The identification of the research and technology zone was good, but the Plan’s language seemed to open a bait and switch problem. 

Bill Wernet, 347 North Granger Street, supported of Mr. Bellman’s comments.  Mr. Wernet indicated that he had real concerns about several specific items in the Plan. 

  • Page 41 – discussion encouraging low cost rental housing and low income housing
  • Page 40 – discussion of housing choices for limited income families
  • Page 15 – discussion regarding a shortage of units at the low end of the housing market
  • Page 65 – the inclusion of tax increment funding (TIF) as part of the Plan 

Mr. Wernet advised Council that he had a transcript of Keith Myers comments made at a previous Comprehensive Plan Steering Committee meeting regarding the proposed Comprehensive Plan.  Mr. Wernet stated that Mr. Myers provided four possible scenarios as to how the Committee should move forward.

  1. Do nothing.
  2. Take a time out and decide whether to continue to rewrite the Plan or start over.
  3. Have a Village person and a Township person rewrite the Plan or update the current Plan
  4. Hire a professional to write a Plan

Mr. Wernet commented that Mr. Myers stated that you cannot make a bad plan a good plan.  The proposed Plan made no mention of prohibiting fast food restaurants.  If this Plan passed, Council would be hearing from Erinwood residents coming in to complain about the smell of frying hamburgers.  Mr. Wernet also indicated that a comprehensive plan can protect you or hurt you as developers would hold each municipality to every word of a plan.  He also indicated that several Steering Committee meetings were called where the public was not permitted to speak.  Mr. Wernet stated that the Committee was made up of good people who were set up to fail by a poor choice of Poggemeyer to write the plan.  Mr. Wernet urged Council to not pass this Plan and leave the 1998 Plan in place. 

Councilmember O’Keefe commented that Mr. Wernet made some good points that the Plan was poorly written.  She indicated that the issues involving low income housing were unclear as they were meant to address low cost housing for seniors.  Councilmember O’Keefe also mentioned that the information on page 41 was unclear and needed to be addressed.  Councilmember O’Keefe indicated that there seemed to be two areas of concern that need clarification – fast food restaurants and low income housing. 

Councilmember Johnson commented that the language in the Plan regarding low income housing always involved senior housing. 

Planner Terry advised Council that the language regarding low income housing was specifically included and stated the need for lower cost housing for seniors.  Regarding the text for fast food restaurants, the language in this Plan is the same language as the 1998 Plan with the additional language added.  Any drive-through lane should be located at the rear of the structure, and ingress and egress from the drive-through should be from a parking lot at the rear of the structure. New developments and structures should be sensitive to the view from existing grounds. The rear of structures shall not face public road rights of way. No parking or drive aisles will be permitted in any setback other than in the case of drive aisles necessary to grant ingress and egress.”  

Councilmember Lerner asked if the ordinance could be amended or what the process would be to make changes to the Plan.  She thought there was merit in tightening the language of the Plan to reflect exactly what it needed to say.  Law Director Crites indicated the any number of amendments could be made to the Plan and be approved by Council.  

Vice Mayor Barsky indicated that the Plan was not a perfect document.  The Plan was designed as a guiding document.  Vice Mayor Barsky indicated that everything was followed from the 1998 Plan.  There were items in this Plan such as the future land use designations that were beneficial.  She asked the Law Director what document would take precedence.  Law Director Crites indicated that a comprehensive plan would be considered, but zoning laws hold precedence.  

Vice Mayor Barsky stated that the Plan cannot be amended any further.  Council could either vote the Plan up or down or table the Plan.  Council should advise the Steering Committee and Township Trustees as a courtesy and determine how they would like to proceed. 

Councilmember O’Keefe moved to hold the public hearing on Ordinance No. 06-2012 open to the July 18, 2012  Council meeting.  Second by Councilmember Lerner.  Motion passed 5-1. 

Vice Mayor Barsky asked Mr. Wernet for a list of specific issues that he felt were problems with the Plan.  Mr. Wernet agreed to provide a list. 

Mayor Hartfield held the public hearing for Ordinance No. 06-2012 open until the July 18, 2012 Council meeting.. 


Ordinance No. 07-2012, An Ordinance Authorizing the Village Manager to Enter into an Annexation Agreement Describing the Intentions of the Parties to Annex Certain Real Property Located Along Columbus Road and Weaver Drive in Granville Township, Owned by Raccoon Creek, LLC was recommended for June 6, 2012 by Councilmember Johnson.  Second by Councilmember O’Keefe. 

Mayor Hartfield scheduled a public hearing for Ordinance No. 07-2012 for the June 6, 2012 Council meeting.

Ordinance No. 08-2012, An Ordinance Authorizing the Village Manager to Enter into an Annexation Agreement with the Granville township Trustees Regarding the Annexation of Real Property Located Along Columbus Road and Weaver Drive in Granville Township, Owned by Raccoon Creek, LLC was recommended for June 6, 2012 by Councilmember Montgomery.  Second by Councilmember O’Keefe. 

Mayor Hartfield scheduled a public hearing for Ordinance No. 08-2012 for the June 6, 2012 Council meeting.

Mayor Hartfield noted the receipt by Council of an appeal of a Planning Commission decision for 121 South Prospect Street.  Council set an appeal hearing date for June 20, 2012. 

Vice Mayor Barsky left the meeting at 8:58pm. 


Regularly Scheduled Meeting of May 2, 2012

Councilmember O’Keefe made a motion to approve the May 2, 2012 minutes.  Second by Councilmember Lerner.   Motion carried.


The Mayor's report for the month of April was presented for review. 

Councilmember O’Keefe moved to accept the April Mayor’s Report. Second by Councilmember Lerner.  Motion carried. 

Mayor Hartfield instructed the report be filed with the clerk. A copy of the report will be included as part of these minutes. 


The Manager's report for the month of April was presented for review. 

Councilmember Johnson asked Manager Stilwell if he anticipated any corrections to the tax revenues due to refunds.  Manager Stilwell indicated that revenues were still ahead of projected levels and he did not anticipate any corrections. 

Councilmember Johnson moved to accept the April Manager’s Report. Second by Councilmember Montgomery.  Motion carried. 

Mayor Hartfield instructed the report be filed with the clerk. A copy of the report will be included as part of these minutes. 


Granville Education Foundation (Lerner) 

Councilmember Lerner reported that the Foundation was looking for new board members.  They would also be looking for ways to increase revenues and community participation.

Granville Foundation – (Montgomery)

Councilmember Montgomery reported that he had been appointed to the Foundation’s Finance Committee.  Bill Wilkins would be making a presentation of the engineering study for the pass-through renovation next month. 

Granville Recreation District – (McGowan)

No Report. 

Planning Commission – (Johnson)

Councilmember Johnson reported that there were nine applications reviewed at the last meeting with four of those requiring variances.  There was a variance for signs for What’s In It for Me? for a temporary sidewalk sign.  A variance for signs for Bob Evans, who was going through a rebranding process.  Their signs would use existing frames and just replace the color of the sign from yellow to white.  This variance codified the original sign.   There was a lot of residential discussion regarding an amendment to an application from Terra Nova requesting a lot split.  The application was approved.

Open Space Committee – (O’Keefe)

No Report.

Tree & Landscape Commission (Lerner)

No report.

Union Cemetery (Barsky)

No report. 


Councilmember Johnson made a motion to adjourn.  Second by Councilmember Lerner.  Motion carried. 

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