Granville Community Calendar

GPC 06/10/96

GRANVILLE PLANNING COMMISSION
June 10, 1996
Minutes
Members Present: Maxine Shulman, Montgomery,Keith Myers,Lyn Robertson.Richard Salvage,Marc Gary Stansbury
Members Absent:none
Also Present: Doug Tailford, Jr.,Village Planner
Visitors Present: Scott Rawden ( Sentinel)and about 53 names on attached sheets.
Minutes of May 20: Page 2, under Page SDI,No.2,add dioining before m" otel lot."Page 3, Under Public Comments,change Patty M" arkham"to Harklau. Page 4,Mr. Myers'paragraph, changes are still being awaited. Next paragraph change "lights"to signs. Under V.,change title
to F"inal Questions by Applicant. "Under VI, line 2: Add He argued that.w.e.should adopt them,L.in.e. 5,add She argued that we are tryingP.a.g,e.5,No. 7 under SuperAmerica, change to other users rather than a"nother user,"MR. STANSBURY MOVED TO APPROVE APRIL 8 MINUTES:MR. MYERS SECONDED AND MINUTES WERE UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED AS CORRECTED.
Citizens Comments:
Omar Whisman took exception to Mr. Tailford's comments in the paper regarding
Fackler's this week,but Mr. Tailford stated he never made those comments.
Jurgen Pape stated that Granville is a pedestrian community and he objects to potential
traffico-riented drivet-hrough businesses. He thinks McDonald's should be located on the other side of the highway,where it originally was planned. He stated that the Master Plan did not suggest a business complex like the one Mr. Fackler is planning,
Ms. Griesse hoped Granville would stay with the Master Plan.
Mr. Dagenhart voiced his objection of any additional businesses until after the current traffic problems are solved.
Mr. Wilkenfeld wondered why we are following the same old model of granting our land
stougoguetsstisdefinbdusiningesses. The Rt.16C/ herry Valley corner is growing too commercial and he new solutions which serve us all as human beings and as a community. He objected to bringing in low-wage-paying jobs which no one wants.
New Business:
Northtowne Properties, South Galway -Lot Split
Northtowne is requesting to split off a 1.8-acre parcel from the 8.865-acre parcel on the southeast corner ofNewarkG- ranville Road and South Galway, The lot meets all requirements for SBD. MR. SALVAGE MOVED TO APPROVE APPLICATION. MR. STANSBURY SECONDED,AND IT WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.
Mary Thurlow-Collen, 332 West Elm -Fence
The applicant wishes to install a 4"white picket fence in the backyard. MR. SALVAGIE MOVED TO APPROVE APPLICATION;MR. MYERS SECONDED, AND MOTION WAS
MOVED TO UNANIMOUSAPLYPROVE APPLICATION;MR, MYERS SECONDED,AND MOTION WAS APPROVED.
Neil and Dixie Andrew,236 West Elm
The owners wish to construct a twos-tory carriage house garage with turnabout and 6' brick wall and courtyard for privacy. Lot coverage variance approved by BZBA is 72.3%He. will replace existing brick sidewalk, The wall along Cherry Street is limited to 42"a,nd the serpentine 6' fence will rise to 7' at the columnar points. Mr. Andrew explained that they have planned the architecture to fit in with the village ordinances. He showed a picture of the concrete pavement with exposed pavers, He said that others in the neighborhood have 6' fences and this would not be overwhelming. He stated that a 4' fence in front would not balance with the remaining 6' fencing. Richard Downs,contractor,explained that they are seeking a German Village courtyard appearance.
Ms. Robertson asked how the northside neighbors felt about the project,and Mr. McCluskey reported that the big problem was with the design of the first plans,and the present compromise ofmoving the structure back farther will allow Mr. Andrew to have his garage and the McCluskeys to have more light. The McCluskeys are not happy with the plans, however, especially the 6' fence on the property line. Mr.Myers objected to any fence right on the property line and suggested moving the wall and garage one foot closer to the house.
MR. MYERS MOVED TO APPROVE APPLICATION UNDER THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS:
1. THAT THE PROPOSED CARRIAGE HOUSE BE MOVED SO THAT THE MINIMUM SETBACK FROM THE PROPERTY LINE IS ONE FOOT.
2. THAT THE WALL ALSO BE MOVED SO THAT THE MINIMUM SETBACK FROM PROPERTY LINE IS ONE FOOT.
3. THAT THE BRICK WALL ON THE WEST AND NORTH PROPERTY LINES BY
DROPPED TO 42"WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE WALL EAST OF THE PROPOSED CARRIAGE HOUSE,WHICH WOULD BE PERMITTED TO BE 6'. 4. THAT THE COLUMN HEIGHT BE ADJUSTED PROPORTIONATELY.
MR SALVAGE SECONDED,AND MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.
Work Session -McDonald's
Ray Riska and the architect are here tonight to seek GPC input on the site plan only. A conditional use permit is required for the proposed restaurant. They have increased the landscaping since the last site plans so that the building could be farther back from the road. Mr. Riska explained that they changed the original site location across the highway because demographic analysis suggested servicing Granville rather than drive-by traffic on Rt. 16.
Ouestions by GPC:
Mr. Stansbury asked the distance from Cherry Valley, and it was stated to be 50' from the right of way with another 20' of grass.
Mr. Myers felt that the presentation should include the entire package,not just the footprint. He also suggested lining up all buildings on Cherry Valley Road, in which case the front of McDonald's should be along C.V. rather than Galway. Others agreed with him.
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Mr. Shulman suggested moving the parking toward the back in the greenspace. He also
wanted the plans to show pedestrian walkways and access to the bikepath.
Mr. Salvage would prefer that McDonald's obtain a conditional use permit from BZBA
before GPC acts. Mr. Tailford weighs reminded the group that part of the conditional use consideration heavily on approval of the site plan by GPC,especially ingress and egress.
Ms. Montgomery asked about a service road,and Mr. Tailford explained that there
should be one on Galway Drive.
Citizens Comments:
Fleur Metzger asked about the source of traffic visiting McDonald's, and Mr. Riska stated
that they are anticipating Granville residents traveling Newark-Granville Road to be the biggest
Rcut.s1to6m. er base. Wendy's,he stated, gets Rt.16 traffic,but McDonald's would not be visible from
Mr. McCluskey asked whether there is a landscape plan,and Mr. Riska stated that John Klauder is working on it.
Mr. Wilkenfeld objected to the piecemeal plans for this restaurant as well as other businesses with its industrial patchwork of parking lots with a building in the middle. Why not look at the big picture and cluster the buildings to allow for community gathering. He argued that McDonald's would not be servicing Granville.
Mr. Turner expressed concerns about traffic at the busy intersection and would not like to
see a ten-lane highway there.
Les Sheppard's concern is with the large playplace in front of McDonald's, and Mr. Riska said it's all blended together.
Ms. Griesse added that they are attempting to attract Granville kids,but we already have
our own playground and do not need another one.
Mary Kay Roberts expressed her objection to the potential businesses across the street from her home.
There are some items of unfinished business with McDonald's; please see Mr. Tailford's memo of June 5 to GPC members. }
Certified Oil Company
John Woods from Certified explained that the facility needs to be upgraded by 1998, according to the EPA,and they want to design a new brick building and include a convenience
store,which will require a conditional use permit. The problem is with ingress and egress on South Main and the main entranceway,which Certified has an easement to use. They have reduced access by one curbcut in the revised plans and moved the entrance to the gas station in order to ease congestion of traffic.
Mr. Myers stated that there seems to be no shortage of convenience stores nearby,and Mr. Woods argued that sale of gasoline is not sufFicient to maintain the business.
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Other unfinished issues are enumerated in Mr. Tailford's memo of June 5 to GPC. }
Citizens Comments:
Mr. McCluskey asked about the hours of operation and was informed that they would be 6 a.m. to 10 p.m. most days.
Leda Ross spoke about the traffic flow at the IGA,saying it looks as though Certified is
shifting their problem onto the common driveway, and the situation would be more difficult with a curve in the drive.
Greg Ross asked about documentation showing traffic accidents,for he knew of Mrs. Thiele described none. one car sliding down the steep slope after the driver was blinded by the sun.
Mr. Vance asked about the size of the building. It would be about 30'x15'.
Mary Fellabaum asked whether Certified has done a survey as to how badly Granville
needs another carryout. Mr. Woods replied that all gas stations now have convenience stores.
George Fackler -SW Corner Cherry Valley and Newark-Granville Roads
Mr. Fackler has listened to what the citizens desire on the five-acre tract and has come up with a unique oneb-uilding complex containing several businesses,utilizing a style already in place in the neighborhood. Conditional uses will be required.
Phil Wince further described the plan which reflects a New England type architecture,
with sidewalks,landscaping shielding the parking area,and bank and convenience center with drivet-hrough service. They have put the building in front of the lot,facing the parking toward the rear. There would be pedestal
lighting,and the building would have dark brown shingles,a low hip roof,synthetic stone, clapboard siding,bay windows. For signage they would need a groundm- ounted sign and individual signs at each business. Hours of operation would be minimal.
GPC members were generally pleased with the design and attention to the zoning code and had several questions:
Mr. Stansbury asked about the traffic flow through the drive-throughs,which are at the tehnoduoghf tthe building. He also suggested that a service road would be helpful,and Mr. Shulman a service road could be made a stipulation because it would be on Murphy property.
Mr. Myers had concerns about the sidewalks,and Mr. Wince stated that they would be connected to public sidewalks. Mr. Myers stated that any future businesses next door would need to be connected.
Mr. Shulman expressed a preference to line up access to the office park.
Mr. Salvage asked about righti-n,righto-ut access restrictions. Mr. Tailford had restricted this on Newark- Granville Road because of the lack of a center turn lane. Cherry
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Valley Road would permit the left turn. S{ee Mr. Tailford's memo of June 5 for further detail. }
Citizens comments were invited:
Mr. Vance was opposed to a third lane. He also questioned whether the sidewalks would lead people around the building to the entrance,and Mr. Wince said that sidewalks would go around but that there would be no rear entrance.
Mr. McCluskey stated his hope that the lighting would be subdued and was informed that light would be down-looking and short so that no light leaves the property.
Mr. Wilkenfeld appreciated the drawings but was concerned about how they were anchoring this. He questioned the need for a realty office unless they are bringing out a downtown Granville real estate office. He wondered about the value of a bank and office space because that does not bring people to the restaurant. If there was a bookstore there,Mr. Wilkenfeld would go there every week.
Mr.Ollie(fr?om) Erinwood stated that this is the best plan they have seen,and W" e are foonrthhies rpiglahntst.rack."Lois Rose and Bill Diaz(a?gre)ed. Dean Markle commended Mr. Fackler
Matt McGowan asked about the liquor permit and Mr. Fackler said they do not plan to use this as a night club.
Announcements:
Mr. Tailford would like to get a standards and design review moving forward. GPC would do design review and a committee would propose a new ordinance under the zoning code. GPC members agreed that such a committee would be helpful in their deliberations,and it would make Mr. Tailford's job easier, An outside expert could be sought. Mr. Tailford suggested submitting a request to Village Council for RFP. A steering committee would include representatives from other groups in town.
MR. MYERS MOVED THAT THE GRANVILLE PLANNING COMMISSION
HEREBY REQUESTS THAT THE VILLAGE COUNCIL CONSIDER THE HIRING OF A CONSULTANT TO ASSIST GPC IN DEVELOPMENT OF STANDARDS FOR THE VILLAGE. MR. STANSBURY SECONDED,AND IT WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.
Adjournment: 10:35 p.m.
Next Meetings: July 1 and July 15
Respectfully submitted,
Betty Allen
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