GRANVILLE PLANNING COMMISSION
November 10, 1997
Members Present: Maxine Montgomery, Keith Myers, Lyn Robertson, Richard Members Salvage, Gary Stansbury, Carl Wilkenfeld Absent:
Also Present: Reza Reyazi, Village Planner
Visitors Present: Scott Rawdon (Sentinel),Ned Roberts, George
Fackler, Frits B. Rizor, Tim Snider, John Oney, Gerry Martin, J. Mcfarland, Joe Hickman, Chris Setzer, Art Chonko, Mike Burney, Tom Scono, Mary Jane McDonald
Minutes of October 20, 1997:
Page 2, Line 5, change "split" to acquire. Fifth line up from bottom: 1) provide written proposal of the project indicating
use of buildings."
Page 3, line 9, change "work" to submit. Under lighting,
change "incorporate" to follow.
MR. SALVAGE MOVED TO APPROVE MINUTES AS CORRECTED AND MR.
WILKENFELD SECONDED. MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.
Citizens Comments: None
Fackler' s, 1960 Newark-Granville Road
John Oney stated that he and Tim Snider are here to prdvide
answers to the questions raised at the last meeting.
Parking. Considerable discussion ensued on how much parking
was required for the Fackler complex and the delic/onvenience cen- ter in particular. Mr. Myers preferred to view the entire complex with access and circulation rather than requiring so many spaces for the deli. A convenience center, somewhere between a restaurant and a deli, is a rather arbitrary figure, and the group decided on 75-90 spaces with overflow parking for 20-30 on the grass for possible paving in the future if necessary. Storm Sewer. The applicants are talking with Mr. Murphy about running a storm sewer across the property, and Mr. Snider will con- sult further with Mr. Murphy. It will tie in with the drain on Galway. This issue needs to be pinned down before the parking lot aisppfrionvaalli.zed. Interconnecting parking lots could be a condition of also. There needs to be a connection with the Burrows property Mr. lMyers wants the applicants to think about this space as a circLue flat tiTounrnsyfstem with islands rather than Just a parking lot. rom Newark/Granville Road. Mr. Wince said the
traffic engineers said that restricting access is not a good idea gpL . bc/ eo/cnadusiteiono,f bthuet p@Proexeimlimityinatotedtheitr,9"1M@u,:h'€*&'e5h5itadwdeads nthoat twaisthian ·611*514:s'43 tjuurrnis.dicIttiomnig. h|t Ibtemwigohrtthwcahuislee more confusion to disallow a left to revisit the traffic studies.
Mr. Wilkenfeld stated that GPC is charged with making the traffic work as well as it can, so it seems that the idea of elimi- nating curbcuts and working with traffic plans throughout the en- tire area is a good idea.
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Mr. Snider reminded the group that he offered to make a paved
GPC members wanted to study the traffic plans some more. Lot Coverage. The applicants show the coverage at 62%c,om- pared to the 65%allowable. They want to make the facility pedes- trian friendly.
Setbacks. The setback in the TCOD along NewarkG/ ranville Road is 100' but Erinwood and Village Green have 70' setbacks, and that is what the applicants are seeking. They want to have parking in the rear. In a previously developed area where the setback is
less,,an applicant may apply for the same. Mr. Myers asked whether the porch was in the 100' line, for it is not unusual for porches to encroach into the setback line. He would like to see where the
facade is in relation to the entire plan. Mr. Wilkenfeld cautioned
afubtouurte.setting a precedent toward variances in TCOD setbacks in the Mr. Oney will work on this issue some more. Building Height. Mr. Oney stated that the building height is 37',whereas the code specifies 30'. Rather than a bunch of small buildings, they have designed one big building and the percentage of frontage is less. If the plans considered a flat building without a roof grade, they could achieve 30'. The center portion
of the building is 37' and they could lower it, but it would not be aesthetically pleasing. The new code specifies 1%stories.
Ms. Robertson thinks it makes sense to go with the new code where height is no problem. Mr. Salvage stated that the problem with the new code is lot coverage. Mr. Snider does not want to go for variances to BZBA, but Mr. Myers would hate to see them compro- mise the architecture because of the 7, difference in height. Mr. Wince affirmed that they will go before BZBA.
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1 Mr. Myers stated that there. is talk about a median strip on b tCohegrrraynVt .atll]yE*R-o€ad, in which case, would the applicants be willing all reasonable pacc.M-r. Fackler said yes. Mr. Wince said that easements would be granted. Mr. Myers stated that any ROW easements are part of preliminary plat approval, and he wants to hear from the Village Engineer whether he feels additional ROW is something to look at prior to approval of site plan. Mr. Snider thought they could cut down on the landscaping, but Mr. mMaYdeers. stated that this is to be resolved before further approval is
MR. SALVAGE MOVED TO TABLE APPLICATION PENDING FURTHER INFORMATION AND MATERIAL FROM APPLICANT. MR. MYERS SECONDED,
AND IT WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.
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Bill and Louise Wernet, 213 North Granger Street
Ned Roberts explained that the Wernets wish to replace jalou- Sie porch windows with double-hung windows and the existing storm door with full-view exterior door. Materials will match the house.
MS. ROBERTSON MOVED TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION. MR. WILKENFELD
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Joseph Hickman, 326 North Granger Street
Because they can only get one car in the garage, the Hickmans
would like to change from a 3-piece slide to an 18' overhead door.
They also wish to put a full view storm door at the front door.
MR SALVAGE MOVED TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION. MS. ROBERTSON
SECONDED, AND IT WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.
Mary Jane McDonald, 325 West Broadway
Ms. McDonald wishes to add a wooden screen porch on the southeast corner, 15' from east property line and close to the neighboring house which is on the property line. The materials and colors will match the house.
MR. MYERS MOVED TO APPROVE APPLICATION; MR. WILKENFELD
SECONDED, AND IT WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.
Village Brewing Company, 128 East Broadway
Tom Fuller is applying for approval of an emergency egress 4' wide stairway on the west wall of the building into the 10' alley- way. For Brew' s expansion into the second floor, they are required by the building code to have two exits to ensure health A and safety of patrons in case of fire. It will be a steel stairway5_/
cover5d with an asphalt shingle roof. ill.24«< Uts43- 03 Ownership of the alleyway is uncertain at this point, a.nd A. Biaekstorrert-eedst-ep«r5vtdee-videree-theah- eo-wns _thea·-ltey. Mr. 6.u'<* Fuller feels it is for common use of both parties. In any case applicant will need a side yard setback variance from BZBA. U G7QG
Gerry Martin said they need to keep the emergency stairway in the front, away from the kitchen. The alarm door on stairway opens only from the inside and is not to be used for ingress.
External stairways must be covered, according to code. Mr. Reyazi does not think asphalt shingles will look very good; canvas eawxpneinngsivweo.uld look better. Metal would look good but would be Mr. Martin wants to match the color of the building bricks. This stairway would narrow the alley, but GPC is only concerned with architecture. Mr. Myers suggested the applicant look into commercial roofing materials.
MS. ROBERTSON MOVED TO TABLE APPLICATION PENDING RECEIPT OF
MORE MATERIAL; MR. WILKENFELD SECONDED, AND IT WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.
Denison University, Sunset Hill
The applicants wish to build three four-story residence halls, housing 52 students each, although this application is for only one hall. Mr. Chonko and Mr. Scono explained the plans for the halls.
Parking. GPC may set requirements for uses not specifically stated int-he-·ccidetT- h-e'n-'earesct-ategoryw- oul·dr-equire· ·12 -parkingr. , , . .4..,.«...'.. .... -
space per room, in which case they would be 48 spaces short.
However, the remoteness of the location would pose little burden to public areas. After much discussion, consensus agreed to require
Parking spaces for 70 per cent of the proposed residents in the firsthall-5, This is not to be construed as blanket approval for any daher application.
Lighting. They will use Granville lighting fixtures but in
the parking lot use shoebox fixtures.
Storm Water issues will be worked out. Jerry Turner will need
to approve plans.
Landscaping. The Tree and Landscape Committee will review the
MR. MYERS MOVED TO APPROVE APPLICATION WITH THE CONDITIONS
THAT: (1) THE STORM WATER MANAGEMENT PLAN MEET CRITERIA OF THE
VILLAGE ENGINEER; 2( ) LANDSCAPING BE APPROVED BY TREE AND LANDSCAPE COMMITTEE; (3) AND THAT PARKING SPACES ARE REQUIRED
FOR 70 PER CENT OF THE RESIDENTS OF THE HALL. MR. SALVAGE
SECONDED, AND IT WAS APPROVED BY MAJORITY WITH ONE ABSTENTION
George Fackler, 2326 Newark-Granville Road
Mr. Fackler provided a memo with some of the items requested
at the last meeting.
Fence. The new fence to replace the chainlink will be a 54" four-rail New Albany type, which will need BZBA approval. Greenhouse. The lath shade house will be replaced with an architectural styleg"reenhouse with rigid panels rather than plastic.
The house on the east will be replaced with a garden center and specialty shop for gifts and woodstoves. Barn will have a rustic hometown feel.
Mr. Reyazi asked for more information for the development,
which is in the new SBD district. This is a nonconforming
uresqe,uiarinndgthe purpose is to bring uses into conformity. Items further study:
1) ingress/ egress, parking, access points
2) distance to the ROW lines; TCOD requires 100' setback. The fact that the facility already exists and will use the same footprint may gain some consideration, i.e.,setbacks 3) check on height of buildings; siting plan, showing all existing structures there now; 4) site plan showing planned structures and their appearance. It' s impossible to evaluate buildings in isolation; they have an impact on each other.
5) Square footage of all buildings
6) Off-street loading locations
7) Landscaping plan ' -
8) Schedule a public to decide hearing with Village Council. They need whether this a modification or new construction.
Lighting Guidelines and "GPCR- ules and Regulations" These will be first on the agenda next time.
Finding of Fact
MR. SALVAGE MOVED TO ADOPT THE APPLICATIONS FOR ITEMS A,B, C
AND E UNDER NEW BUSINESS AS FORMAL FINDING OF FACT. MR.
WILKENFELD SECONDED, AND FINDING OF FACT WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.
Adjournment: 10: 20 p. m.
Next Meetings: November 24 and December 8