GRANVILLE PLANNING COMMISSION
Members Present:Jack Burriss, Barbara Lucier,Bernie Lukco,Keith Myers C( hairR),ichard Salvage
Members Absent:Carl Wilkenfeld
Also Present:Kathryn Wimberger,Village Planner
Visitors Present:Scott Rawden S(entinel)S,cott Harmon,JeffFrahn,Gary Yaekle,Dan Rogers,Barbara
Franks,Pat Nugent,Deb Hibler,James R. Cooper,Esq.,Tod Darfus,Ned Roberts,Ashlin Caravana
Citizens'Comments: It was noted that no recommendations have yet been received from the Law Director
regarding procedure of hearings.
The Chair swore in all those who planned to speak)
Minutes of February 28,2000:
Page 3: Line 7,ChangeA "BSTENTIONt"o NAE VOTE.
Page 3,at end ofFinding ofFact,changeU "NANIMOUSLYt"o APPROVED WITH ONE ABSTENTION
MR. SALVAGE MOVED TO APPROVE MINUTES AS CORRECTED;MR.BURRISS SECONDED,AND
MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.
JeffFrahn,American Family Insurance,119 Rear East Elm Street -Sign
Ms. Wimberger introduced the application,stating the proposal is for a red,white,and blue sign made
of plastic film to be installed in the window for a new business. The sign is already in place,and the applicant
is seeking no sign on South Main or Elm Streets.
MR.LUKCO MOVED TO APPROVE APPLICATION AS PRESENTED. MR. SALVAGE SECONDED,
AND IT WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.
Tod Darfus, 233 East Broadway -Fences
Two fences are proposed: 1( )3'4-'black iron fence similar to what was there previously,which wraps
around the front yard,and ( 2)6'x55' wooden privacy fence in the rear. There would be a gate at the east side
of the house and a double gate at the driveway entrance on Broadway and a gate to the front walk to the front
Mr. Darfus showed pictures ofthe fence and showed exact locations. There will be landscaping added.
MR. SALVAGE MOVED TO APPROVE APPLICATION 00-021 FOR FENCING SUBJECT TO THE
METAL ALONG FRONT BEING A PRE-FINISHED BLACK COLOR AND THE FENCE ACROSS THE
BACK,A CREAM COLOR TO BE APPROVED BY THE VILLAGE PLANNER. MR. BURRISS
SECONDED AND IT WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.
Ashlin Caravana, 209 East Elm Sttreet -Temporary Fence
The applicant wishes to erect a temporary fence to keep her child inside while he is learning the boundaries.
The actual fence was exhibited.a wire fence coated with green,to be installed along the side property line,the
only area not already enclosed. Neighbors are agreeable. Landscaping will eventually replace the fence
MR. SALVAGE MOVED TO APPROVE APPLICATION FOR FENCE TO BE IN PLACE FOR AN 18-
MONTH PERIOD. MR. LUKCO SECONDED,AND IT WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.
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Deborah Hibler,318 East College Street -Garage,fence,pool,demolition
Ms.Wimberger said there are two applications: 1( ) 2#3 is for a new twoc-ar garage with storageo/fficep/ool
house and deck. Roof line will match existing house. The pool will be enclosed with a 6'wood fence and
gate stained to match house; 2 () 2 4#is for demolition of onec-ar garage. The neighbors have no objections to
the project. Ms.Hibler will need setback variances from BZBA. The current garage does not match
architecturally and its placement in middle of yard uses up to much greenspace.
MR. SALVAGE MOVED TO APPROVE APPLICATION # 23 TO PERMIT CONSTRUCTION OF TWOCAR
GARAGE,FENCE,AND POOL SUBJECT TO (1)BZBA APPROVAL OF SETBACKS AND (2)THE
FENCE BEING PAINTED CREAM COLOR AS IN THE SAMPLE PRESENTED TONIGHT. MR.
BURRISS SECONDED,AND IT WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED
MR. SALVAGE MOVED TO APPROVE PERMIT # 24 FOR DEMOLITION OF EXISTING GARAGE.
MR. BURRISS SECONDED,AND IT WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.
Mr. Myers noted that this was an excellently prepared application.
Dan Rogers,210 East Maple Street
Mr. Rogers proposes to change the roofline as part of a new application to be forthcoming
Mr. Salvage recused himself froml this discussion.
Jim Cooper,Counsel,said that he does not have the benefit of attending previous sessions and the
situation was presented,as it exists now. He and Mr. Rogers and Ned Roberts worked together to come up
with a plan closely resembling the 1997 approved application This modified plan would have a pitched roof
and a saltbox design. There was an approval in 1997 for a 1' side and rear setback,and he hoped the survey
being done is within that range. The square footage would remain the same,but volume has been reduced.
Ned Roberts added that they took the pitch of the roof and used it as a point to take it back the same as
in the front. The garage has 10'ceilings and 16'floor truss and they did not want to change that. This plan
stops the massing and from the side would look like a saltbox. Exterior materials is to be the same as the front
of the house and wood lap siding on all four sides. The notch is a recessed door. There would be a post in the
corner to match the one on the front porch and two doors,one to enter and one to go upstairs. Single roofing to
match house. The horizontal window in the rear will be shorter and narrower,like an awning window and
will match windows at back of house. Windows would be double hung. Windows are shows with divisers,
but Mr. Rogers said it would be simpler not to have dividers.
Mr. Burriss advised applicant that very detailed drawings and elevations will be required. Mr. Lukco
said the applicants are trying to satisfy us,and he cannot envision whether the new plan would add or detract,
but he wants it to look like original application.
Mr. Myers thought that changing the roofline would cut down the massing and is a significant
improvement,but he thinks the window in the rear should be rectangular and vertical.
Mr. Burriss asked about replication of Victorian details. One reasont why the original plan worked
well was that-the form was the same as existing house. In a saltbox shape,the hip roof is gone,more
consistent with original approval,and the massing is less. A saltbox form,architecturally speaking,would
have been appropriate for a carriage house. It most likely would be a board and batten rather than the high
detail ofthe house. A saltbox shape is different from the Victorian detail that would have been put on. From
the drawings it is not clear whether any of the details are applied on that building. Mr. Rogers stated he wants
to come as close as he can with the cornices. Mounting around windows would probably work,and he plans
to put on corner boards, and sliding barn doors .He wants it to look good Ned Roberts said board and batten
could be done with plywood.
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Barbara Franks thought what is planned would not be as nice as what was built. One- third of her
upstairs space is being eliminated. No neighbors are against the current building. Mr. Cooper said there are
trade- offs in the Architectural Review sections. He wondered whether drawings could be submitted for GPC to
look at before the application is made.
Mr.Myers thought the suggestions presented tonight were good. Another work session should be
Even thought the 1' setback had earlier been approved by BZBA,this would be a new application and
would require a new variance.
Scott Harmon,surveyor,said his work is copyrighted and should not be used for mortgage surveys or
architectural renderings. He is upset that people get approval for fences,etc.,when a banking survey is used
and the survey is inaccurate. Mr. Harmon would like to see some guidelines put into place,and Mr. Myers
suggested he talk with Village Council.
Finding of Fact:
Mr. Myers said the group found the sign application for Mr. Frahn fits within the existing code,
1161. 05. Italso fits within 1189 ofthe Granville code.
Ther iron fence and privacy fence sought by Mr. Darfus fit all code requirements. His application is
approved with conditions noted in the approval.
The temporary fence for Ms. Caravana is approved for an 18-month period from final date of
The Hibler application meets all conditions.
MR. SALVAGE MOVED THAT THE COMMISSION FINDS THAT THE APPLICATIONS UNDER NEW
BUSINESS ( Frahn,Darfus, Caravana,Hibler)ARE CONSISTENT WITH RELEVANT SECTIONS OF THE
CODE AS LISTED IN THE VILLAGE PLANNER'S MEMO. MR. LUKCO SECONDED,AND IT WAS
Next Meetings: March 27 and April 10
Adjournment: 8:50 p.m.
GRANVILLE PLANNING COMMISSION