GRANVILLE PLANNING COMMISSION
Members Present: Jack Burriss,Barbara Lucier,Bernie Lukco,Keith Myers,Richard
Also Present: Kathryn Wimberger,Village Planner
Visitors Present: John & Kelli Graban,Maxine Montgomery,Florence and Bill Hoffman,
Maureen Driscoll,Fred Abraham,Ron Fenstermaker,Greg Ream,Kevin Reiner,Tim Snider,
Rob Harris,John Thornborough,Katie Thornborough,Sharon Sellitto,Bill Wernet,Kent
Smith,Jo Carey- Carlisle,John Oney
The Chair swore in all those who planned to speak
Minutes ofJune 10:As members have not had time to review the minutes,they will be
considered at the next meeting.
Ron Fenstermaker,130 North Main -Rezoning to VBD
The applicant wishes to convert this residential house to office space. The finding of
GPC would be a recommendation to Village Council.
Mr.Fenstermaker explained that he has rented to students for 14 years. He is
thinking of selling the property because he lives so far away and makes a couple of trips
every year to maintain it. The growth of Granville demands additional commercial services,
and North Main is not conducive for residential or rental property because of all the truck and
heavy traffic. A business in the house would help preserve the unit,whereas a rental might
be detrimental. He has two parking spaces but would need three.He thought he and his
neighbor ( Mr.Thornborough)could plan a common area between the houses,which would
take some off-street parking spaces..His purposes are not to make money on commercial use
but to preserve the house.
Mr.Thomborough,138 N. Main St.,who owns the house next door,stated that they
tried to rezone three years ago. He remembers the GPC was concerned that no more property
should be converted to commercial,though people seemed willing to consider a special use.
They could not come up with more off-street parking but his view is that Granville probably
does not need to insist upon off- street parking. One can always park somewhere in the
Village. He is in favor of changing all four properties in the residential zoning on that corner
Michael Allen,who owns the house across the street,rented the upstairs to students
and lived downstairs while he was a professor. When he left Denison,he maintained it as a
student rental. With all the expensive homes ringing Granville,he feels a need for more
commercial property downtown. If this is not done,suburban sprawl is encouraged and the
sense of a central community is lost. There are few cars in the Presbysterian lot next door,
and the village is rich with parking spaces. He would recommend a zoning change.
Sharon Sellitto asked whether there are a lot of businesses eager to find rentals. Mr.
Fenstermaker said he has heard from several interested people,particularly 2-title compan s
and a lawyer.
Jo Carey Carlisle is concerned that other rentals will become commercial and prefers
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renting to families than to businesses.
Mr.Lukco has some concerns with the application: 1 ()he is generally opposed to
removal of residential properties in favor of commercial. He does not feel the Village should
be a business district for homes on the outskirts. He would like to keep as many homes
residential as possible. 2 ()Parking is another concern
Mr.Wilkenfeld agrees and he is afraid of the domino effect. He likes the idea of
mixed use,and a lot of villages have died because there are no residences downtown. There
are not enough low-cost houses in Granville,and he would like to see this property remain
Mr. Burriss was in favor of all three properties going commercial when it came up
before. He sits on the Granville Business and Professional Association and they have been in
favor of continued growth of downtown area,and a number of businesses have approached
GBPA about using space. Those houses have been commercial in the past. It would make a
good small office. One ofthe goals ofthe Master Plan is to continue to keep the heart ofthe
village strong,so some expansion would be necessary.
Mr. Salvage agreed with Mr. Burriss and thinks it makes sense to make the rest ofthe
block commercial and to continue to allow growth of the business area. He thinks GPC has a
lot of control over what goes on in the historic district and thinks a business would be
something in character and not detrimental. Schools would benefit from increased taxes.
Forcing these houses to remain residential forces them to remain rentals
Ms. Lucier said she has changed her mind since this question came up before and
does not think the commercial area should be expanded at this time. She likes living
downtown and thinks other families should have this opportunity also. She does not think
North Main is more difficult than North Pearl with truck traffic
Mr. Myers stated that the previous application included several properties on that corner. A
zoning change is irreversible, but there are conditional uses possible. Many houses have been
converted to commercial,but to remain vitalized,the character needs to remain residential.
He also thinks the truck traffic is worse on North Pearl.Looking at the corner
comprehensively might be easier than looking at a single application.
MR. SALVAGE MOVED TO RECOMMEND TO VILLAGE COUNCIL THAT
THE PROPERTY BE REZONED FROM VRD TO VBD. MR. BURRISS
SECONDED,AND MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY DENIED ( Mr. Salvage and
Mr. Burriss voted AYE and Mr. Myers,Mr.Wilkenfeld and Mr.Lukco voted NAE.)
Kelli and John Graban, 201 North Pearl StreetF -ence
Ms. Wimberger stated that the applicants wish to add a wooden picket fence on the
College Street side of this corner, stained white to match the house trim. Mrs. Graban stated
that they have a small courtyard. They would like to fence in from front porch down the
drive to enclose a little patio. She described in detail the location and appearance ofthe
proposed fence. She said there was one small change: The gate pickets will not be at an
angle but will go straight,with no arches.D (rawing submitted)
Mr. Burriss thought with a fence right along the sidewalk,it would be recommended
to set the fence back a foot for trimming grass and maintaining sidewalk,and Mrs. Graban
was agreeable but the lawnmower needs enough room to get through. It was decided there
would be enough room and the first buffer was appropriated.
MR. LUKCO MOVED TO APPROVE APPLICATION SUBJECT TO THE
FOLLOWINGCONDITIONS: ( 1)SET IT BACK ONE FOOT FROM THE
SIDEWALK; 2 ()GATES TO USE THE SAME STYLE PICKET AS REST OF
FENCE. MR. WILKENFELD SECONDED,AND MOTION WAS
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Florence Honf,an,508 West College Street L-ot Combination
Corner ofThresher C&ollege Streets)Mrs.Hoffman stated 2 yrs ago they
purchased the property on which they have an easement for their driveway from Denison
University. They would like to combine these two lots into one property to preserve
greenspace and prevent another house from being built on the open lot in the future.
MR.WILKENFELD MOVED TO APPROVE APPLICATION TO COMBINE THE
TWO LOTS. MR.BURRISS SECONDED,AND MOTION WAS
Fred Abraham,456 South Main StreetR -emodelingA/ddition
Mr.Abraham said the structure is sound but he wants to add 9'9"to west end to bring
the building in line with the NAPA building front. The building needs new siding,new metal
galvanized roof w(hich would not be visible from below)a,nd synthetic stone s(ample
limestone was shown)a,nd he showed GPC the location and appearance ofthe plan. The
Thrift Shop would probably be the tenant.There would be two display picture windows,and
windows beside the door would be 6'x8' ( not to scale and flipped from what is in the
drawingT).here would be a 5' sidewalk in front.
Mr. Myers thought a hedge would be a good addition to the front between the
sidewalk and the lot to screen the parking.
Mr. Burriss asked about signage,and Mr. Abraham said that would be up to the
tenants. Mr.Burriss would like to see a more accurate drawing,and Mr. Lukco wanted to see
the site plan,scale drawing,elevations,and landscape elevation plan.Mr. Abraham will
provide this when he returns to the GPC.
MR. SALVAGE MOVED TO TABLE PENDING FURTHER INFORMATION,
PER AGREEMENT OF THE APPLICANT. MR. WILKENFELD SECONDED,
AND IT WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.
Waite and Jo Carey Carlisle,424 East College Street -Fence
The applicants would like to: 1( )widen the driveway 8',2 ()put a new stone retaining
wall along east lot line,3 ()add gates and arbors,4 ()add 6' picket fence,and 5( )a cedar deck
with arbor. The deck would be raised about 3'.They need more room for off-street parking
since they are parking on the grass now. She thought no additional curbcut would be needed.
Ms. Wimberger stated this application would need BZBA approval of side yard setbacks
variances for the driveway and deck. He thought it should start at the line of the house rather
than at the road.
Mr.Myers made several suggestions about location of the driveway for aesthetic
Ms. Carlisle said they would like to have the deck extend from back of the house out
16' and raised up 3'.
A 6'fence is needed for privacy from the alley and maybe a lower fence on the side.
There were railroad ties to a retaining wall which the neighbor took out,and the
applicants are 12' above their neighbors on the east. The rock retaining wall is a replacement
and will have lattice fence on top of the wall to shield a storage area ( bike,etc)they will
Mr. Burriss wanted to see the deck on paper. He asked if the fence was what the
applicant really plans to do. It is a very nice,ornate fence. What the GBC approves is what
must be build.
Mr. Myers stated that we could deal with the fence now. If her husband doesn't want
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to do what is approved they can come back to GPC with a modification.
MR.SALVAGE MOVED TO APPROVE APPLICATION SUBJECT TO THE
FOLLOWING CONDITIONS: ( 1)DRIVEWAY EXPANSE IS REQUIRED TO
START AT THE PORCH LINE AND GO BACK FROM THERE;2 ()MAINTAIN
GRASS LINE BEFORE DRIVE;3 ()USE EXISTING CURBCUT; 4( )GPC
APPROVES FENCE ENCIRCLED IN DRAWING BUT GIVES APPLICANT THE
OPTION TO HAVE UP TO ZERO SPACE BETWEEN PICKETS ALONG ALLEY
AND IT MAY BE SHORTER THAN 6' ON SIDES; 5( )DECK WILL BE LIKE
THE PICTURE BUT IT WILL BE ELEVATED WITH WOOD ARBOR FLOOR
AND THE TRELLIS TO COVER ENTIRE DECK;6 ()DRIVEWAY AND DECK
REQUIRE BZBA VARIANCE APPROVAL. MR.WILKENFELD SECONDED,
AND IT WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.
Any changes in the fence will require applicant's return to GPC.
Kevin Reiner,215 South Cherry Street -Fence
The applicant wishes to build a fence along front and side yard property lines. Mr.
Reiner showed sample ofthe actual 42"picket fence and described it in detail. It will be 3"
offthe ground and stained white to match the house. The pickets will have an " ace"like
head. They will work around the existing trees.
Mr. Myers praised applicant's presentation. He thought fence should be 1' behind
the ROW line in case a sidewalk eventually was put in or work needed to be done in the
MR. WILKENFELD MOVED TO APPROVE APPLICATION WITH
FOLLOWING CONDITIONS: ( 1)FENCE IN FRONT OF HOUSE SET BACK 1'
FROM ROW. 2 ()FENCE ON NORTH SIDE PROPERTY LINE A(S AGREED TO
BY NEIGHBORS).MR.BURRISS SECONDED,AND IT WAS UNANIMOUSLY
Mr.Salvage wanted it noted in the minutes that minor modifications are OK as long
as the fence is moved closer to the house and he maintains trees as much as possible.
Taylor DrugStore2 0-0 E.Broadwayn -ew building
Greg Ream stated they wish to build a new building for the drugstore and rent the
existing location. John Oney from Architectural Alliance,showed a detailed proposal and
said they have surveyed the property 2(00 E.Broadway)T.here will be a community display
window accessible with an outdoor key.
Tim Snider,Engineer,said he met with Jerry Turner,of Bird &Bull,Village
engineer, for engineering details. His concern was with storm water runoff,and this has
been addressed. There would be zero setback on west side and the front. The Woeste
building is closer by 2' or so. The front would line up with the bank portico. They will
eliminate two curbcuts and narrow the others. There would be one- way traffic around the
building with angle parking. There would be landscaping and sidewalk and one tree might be
removed but replaced. They wittleave the greenscape along the north hedge will be trimmed
or replaced. Parking is available for 33 cars with prescription drop-off ( but not pick-up)for
one car. Taylor ground sign will be moved to new location.
The architect,Rob Harris,explained the materials to be used. All material limestone,
brick and stucco. He noted the building design and how it integrates with existing Village
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buildings to maintain the unique character and pedestrian atmosphere.
Mr.Lukco and Mr. Wilkenfeld thought the west and east facades had no interesting
features but the other sides look great. Others agreed,and the architect showed some other
samples of design for those sides. GPC offered suggestions,ie;fake windows ( bigger than
shown)li,ghts. Mr.Burriss objected to the short brick wall and would prefer plants for
screening the parking lot.
Announcements: Mr.Burriss wants to recommend to Village Council a commendation to
Kathryn Wimberger for her professionalism,organizationa,n.d a lot ofthings that have
improved our job. She is a terrific person,and she has made our job easier from her end with
paperwork,etc.,so we can concentrate on architectural details. He would like to see Village
Council give her a commendation. Mr.Salvage seconded,and it was enthusiastically
Finding of Fact:
MR. SALVAGE MOVED THAT WE FIND THE FINDINGS FOR A,B,C,E,F UNDER
NEW BUSINESS AND THE FINDING OF FACT FOR THE PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH
WHICH WAS READ AND AGREED UPON AT THIS TIME ARE CONSISTENT WITH
THE APPROPRIATE SECTIONS OF THE CODE AS LISTED IN THE VILLAGE
PLANNER'S MEMO OF AGENDA. MR. WILKENFELD SECONDED,AND IT WAS
Next meeting:July 10 and July 24 (Mr. Lukco will be absent at both;Mr. Salvage absent
July 24;Mr. Wilkenfeld is not sure about July 24)
Adjourned: 10:30 p.m.
GRANVILLE PLANNING COMMISSION