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GPC Minutes 5/8/2000

GRANVILLE PLANNING COMMISSION

May 8,2000

Minutes

Members Present: Bernie Lukco,Keith Myers, Members Richard Salvage Absent: Jack Burriss,Barbara Lucien Carl Wilkenfeld

Also Present: Kathryn Wimberger,Village Planner

Visitors Present: Mary E. Bline,Don Contini,Joy V. Carlson,Robert Seith,Jean Hoyt, Candi Moore,Steve Mershon,Christian Robertson,Don Stevens,Bill Acllin,Roger McClain,Lisa Minklei

Citizens'Comments: None

The Chair swore in all those who planned to speak

Minutes: Because of late arrival ofminutes,approval will wait until next meeting

New Business:

DRAFT

Andrew andJoy Carlson,547WelshHills RoadD -eck

The Carlsons wish to 1( )add a deck,enclosing front porch and entrance and removing walkway. 2 ( )A threes-eason breezeway will be turned into a playroom,and front door access will be here. 3( )A brick walkway and landing will replace sidewalk from driveway. 4 ( )Replace back door with a sliding glass door. 6 ()Add a window. Since the project is in the TCOD,it needs GPC consideration.

Ms. Carlson added that new Pella windows will be similar but will not match

existing the four styles ofwindows ofhouse.

MR..SALVAGE MOVED TO APPROVE APPLICATION AS SUBMITTED. MR.

LUKCO SECONDED,AND MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.

James Davis and Lisa Minklei, 127 South Main Street -Shed andremodeling

The applicants wish to (1)enclose their screen porch and move front door to the

breezeway;2 ()add an 8'x12' gable shed in the rear next to the Life Style Museum;3 ()

change the front walkway to brick and add brick steps and a railing;4 ()change the

northwest window to a doubleh-ung window: 5()res-ide house with white vinyl siding;6 () new gutters;7 ()windows will be reb-ound.

A unanimous buffer will help hide shed from museum and will probably not be

very visible from the street. BZBA willlook at the side yard setback.

MR. SALVAGE MOVED TO APPROVE APPLICATION AS SUBMITTED. MR.

LUKCO SECONDED,AND MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.

Old Business:

First Presbyterian Church - Modification ofAlley Width # 9709OM

Christian Robertson,Contractor,explained that there is an error in the plans for the

First Presbyterian Church project. The church door on the west side ofthe building next to

the alley required another foot for clearance. He feels the 15' width would lend itselfto the

integrity of the road and would be more attractive and described for GPC members the

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exact location ofthe doorway. The 15' 11"to 15'4"original road 15'w, hich is now constructed to was noticed and measured by one ofthe adjacent neighbors who had concerns about parking. Ultimately this construction error was due to an error on the drawing interpretation. The vestibule coming offofthe west side building was constructed. The

open doors would only give around 1' ifthe alley was 16:C u(rrently 2'9")A.nother issue with parking vehicles there is that even at 16'e,mergency vehicles ride the saddle ofthe sidewalk on the west side ofthe structure. Also,making the alley 16' next to the

condensers would cut into the screening vegetation and would disturb the vegetation. If alley were to be modified as originally proposed in the plans, it would ultimately result in a 12"longitudinal patch. The east side would be cut and would not lend itself to the integrity ofthe road.

Bill Acklin has attempted to meet with neighbors. Parking is a main issue and the Church has made the church lot available to neighbors. The best solution would be to prohibit parking in the alley because it represents a safety hazard with the doorway at the vestibule.

Bob Seith, neighbor,thinks there is not a problem with the width ofthe alley except

as it affects the three parking spaces that used to be there. In that constricted part from

Broadway back to almost his house,it is narrow and tight. Parking always is prohibited

beyond the third space because of where the cut began to make a swing around the old

locust place.

Mr. Lukeo asked about their concern. Mr. Seith said that they're concerned about

parking in so far as it restricts three spaces that have historically and frequently been used.

The UPS truck no longer comes down his house until he's talked to them. The three spaces

are from Broadway ( points on plans)going north. Fire trucks have driven the alley

previously and could do it.

Mr. Meyers asked for clarifications of task. Modification of application approval is

needed. A major or minor modification must be determined first.

Mr. Salvage is concerned about the loss of spaces from construction of new

addition,but some after.

Mr. Lukco had assumed this was a one-way street that went back out to Main

Street. The question was clarified by Bill Acklin who confirmed that the alley does connect

to Main Street along the north side ofthe religious education building. Mr. Acklin said

some spaces on Main were picked up where alley used to come out.

Mr. Meyers is concerned about parking. The 16' is easier to rationalize than

parallel parking. But he is really concerned about the safety ofthe Church and ifthe fire

trucks are getting through. Either way,trucks will get through since there is concrete on

either side ofthe alley in case of emergency.

Mr. Salvage is satisfied ifthe curb could be adjusted along where three spaces are

to be. New curb is installed all the way from Broadway to parking lot.

Mr. Lukco says it makes sense to go in two feet where the spaces are. Mr. Meyers

is concerned about how it would look to have a bend in it. Conversation ensued about

keeping 15' road with three spaces since neighbors are primarily concerned about parking

and not delivery trucks. A car can go through a 9' lane.

Mr. Meyers asked Mr. Seith if he is reasonably satisfied with three parking spaces

are added to the 15' and the alley is continued to the service house at a 9' travel lane?Mr.

Seith thought this shouldn't be a problem. There used to be a No Parking sign at the end of

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the spaces and the curb disappeared. Therefore,what have is an improvement and the

handicap entrance which ought not to be affected by the current issue. Just bring back in to

16'which is enough for three spaces and put a No Parking sign beyond that point ( sic).

Meyers asked if all present were satisfied if the alley is approved as is with three

spaces and if that continues to work?

Robertson asked ifthat meant it had to be expanded at front?No. Okay.

Salvage wants spaces clearly marked with No Parking sign.

MR. SALVAGE MOVED THAT THE APPLICATION FOR MODIFICATION BE

CONSIDERED MINOR. MR. LUKCO SECONDED,AND IT WAS UNANIMOUSLY

APPROVED

MR„.SALVAGE MOVED TO APPROVE APPLICATION AS SUBMITTED WITH THE

UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE ARE AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE THREE

PARKING SPACES IMMEDIATELY OFF WEST BROADWAY JUST PAST THE

SIDEWALK AND AT THE END OF THE THREE SPACES THERE IS TO BE A"NO

PARKING' SIGN. MR. LUKCO SECONDED,AND IT WAS UNANIMOUSLY

APPROVED.

With regard to the No Parking sign, it is a Village issue.

Steve Mershon and Candi Moore, 411 and 417 EastCollegeS -hared Driveway revisited

Ms. Wimberger reported that legal counsel determined that a 10' shared driveway

on College Street was appropriate. BZBA also approved ( contingent upon GPC approval)

a shared driveway for the other two lots the applicants own.

Bob Kent,from Granville Inn, felt that following the long school board discussion

which resulted in their having to reduce the parking spaces allow-ed,the shared alleyway

for the three lots should remain. Parking is scarce and the Inn suffers from lack of spaces.

Don Contini also felt, as he reported in his letter,the alleyway behind the lots

should remain,as GPC originally approved it. He felt Commission members should not

have changed their minds, but Mr. Lukco stated that the school board did not have any idea

of how much traffic their parking lot would generate. Ifthere is to be only one house built,

the driveway would be relocated. He likes the plans for the applicants' house even if it

means one or two parking spaces are lost.

Mr. Salvage agrees but thinks we are losing only one-half a space. He would

expect the house to be built and as a condition of approval there should be public record

made ofthe joint access between the two lots. This should not be done until they break

ground ( begin construction)

Mr. Myers is also sympathetic about parking for the two inns, but doesn't believe

this will hurt business very much. A shared drive is better than a 20' alleyway and he

wants to be assured the shared driveway is 10' so as not to lose any more parking spaces

than necessary.

Mr. Myers asked who is going to clean up the tree lawn and replace street trees?

Ms. Wimberger said it probably would not be done until the other two lots are built- upon.

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The requirement Granger was. was not recorded that College Street improvement was included when

MEMBERS TABLED THIS DECISION UNTIL THE NEWHOUSE IS DECIDED UPON.

Steve Mershon and Candi Moore, 405 East College StreetN -ew Holise

MR. SALVAGE MOVED TO TAKE APPLICATION 00057 OFF THE TABLE.

MRJ. LUKCO SECONDED,AND IT WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.

The applicants wish to build a new home with garage to be accessed from Granger Street. BZBA did approve variances for height,but GPC needs to look at this also to determine whether it is in the best interest of the community.

Mr.Mershon described the house plans and reported on a very minor change in the plans and said the tree lawn will be reestablished along College Street and new trees planted. Mr. Myers thought the Village would take care ofthe curb but the applicant must replace sidewalk and add 5-6 trees. Mr. Mershon said one street tree will have to be moved around the corner in order to build the driveway.

Ms. Wimberger said the College Street curbs should be placed on Village Council agenda.

MR. SALVAGE MOVED TO APPROVE APPLICATION WITH THE

FOLLOWING CONDITIONS: (1)CONCRETE SIDEWALK WILL BE ESTABLISHED

ALONG ALL THREE LOTS ON COLLEGE STREET TO MRS. HANNAHS' HOUSE;

2)THE CONCRETE AND ASPHALT BETWEEN SIDEWALK AND CURB WILL BE

REMOVED AND TREE LAWN ESTABLISHED;3 ()MINIMUM OF 4 TREES BE

PLACED IN THAT TREE LAWN,212'/DIAMETER OF A SPECIES AND LOCATION

TO BE APPROVED BY TREE AND LANDSCAPE COMMISSION. MR. LUKCO

SECONDED AND IT WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.

MR SALVAGE MOVED THAT THE PROPOSED MODIFICATION TO THE

APPROVED APPLICATION 99032 BE CONSIDERED MINOR. MR. LUKCO

SECONDED AND IT WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.

MR. SALVAGE MOVED TO APPROVE MODIFICATION SUBJECT TO THE

EFFECTIVE DATE OF THE APPROVAL SHALL BE THE DATE OF GROUNDBREAKING

ON THE HOUSE JUST APPROVED UNDER # 00057 AND THAT THE

JOINT ACCESS EASEMENT BE RECORDED WITH THE COUNTY RECORDER

WITHIN 10 DAYS AFTER BREAKING GROUND ( BEGINNING CONSTRUCTIONO

AT 405 EAST COLLEGE. THE JOINT ACCESS EASEMENT IS TO BE SUBMITTED

TO THE VILLAGE (WITH DRAWING AND LEGAL DESCRIPTION FOR

APPROVAL BEFORE RECORDING

WorkSession:Mary E.Bline,Greystone Coiintry Hotise, 128 S.MainC -hange of Use

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Ms. Bline wishes to expand her store's office and showrooni into the first floor the of house. This would not require any more parking because sales would be over the

Internet. GPC does not see any problem with this change.

Finding of Fact:

MR. SALVAGE MOVED TO APPROVE THE MERSHON/ MOORE HOUSE AS

DISCUSSED TONIGHT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE CODE AS LISTED IN THE

PLANNER'S MEMO AND RECORDED ON THE FINDING OF FACT WITH

CONDITIONS AT THE MEETING.

MR. SALVAGE MOVED THAT WITH THE MINOR MODIFICATION TO THE

PREVIOUSLY APPROVED LOT SPLIT THE FINDING IS CONSISTENT WITH

RELEVANT AND APPROPRIATE SECTIONS OF THE CODE WITH CONDITIONS

AS NOTED IN THE VILLAGE PLANNER'S MEMO AND AS RECORDED THIS

EVENING.

MR. SALVAGE MOVED THAT THE COMMISSION FINDS THAT APPLICATIONS

A AND B UNDER NEW BUSINESS ARE CONSISTENT WITH RELEVANT

SECTIONS OF THE CODE AS SPECIFIED IN THE VILLAGE PLANNER'S MEMO.

MR. LUKCO SECONDED ALL MOTIONS,AND THEY WERE UNANIMOUSLY

APPROVED.

Next meeting: Thursday,May 25

Adjourned: 9.35 p.m.

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