GRANVILLE PLANNING COMMISSION
Members Present: Jack Burriss, Keith Myers, Mark Parris, Richard Salvage, Carl Wilkenfeld
Members Absent: Barb Lucier
Also Present: Seth Dorman, Village Planner
Visitors Present: Bob Kent, Douglas Mill, Jenny Nelson, Leslie Newkirk, Bob Seith, John Minsker,
Russ Adams, Ed Vance,Jim Dumbauld, Bernie Williams and Mrs. Williams, Al Packer,Ladd
Michael, Ted Handel, Phil Markwood, Miles L. Waggoner
The Chair,Keith Myers,swore in all those who planned to speak.
Minutes of July 23,2001: MR. SALVAGE MOVED TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS
SUBMITTED. MR. WILKENFELD SECONDED, AND THE MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY
Robert Kent -Brvn Du Woods. Phase V
Mr. Kent wanted to update the GPC on his plans, which are essentially what was previously
approved. He has added some trees, and he wanted to move Lot 521 a little bit, and Lot 523 by the
pond that was shifted.
Mr. Wilkenfeld asked about any plans for the Village's preserving any of the land, and Mr.
Kent said he has heard nothing. They will do engineering work in the spring and will need to know the
Mr. Kent clarified GPC members' questions about sidewalks, greenspace, walking paths, and
the reserve area. Members agreed with the updated plans.
Russ Adams. 111 North Prospect Street P-rojecting Sign
Mr. Dorman said the applicant wishes to install a white sandblasted wood sign with raised black
letters, which will project from the building. It will be 3'x2' and double sided. Mr. Adams feels that
some people find it difficult to read the current sign.
Mr. Myers felt a simpler sign would be easier to read and less expensive. Sandblasted signs are
not historically accurate for the Village. Members preferred a flat sign with black letters and white
background, with letters either vinyl or painted.
MR. SALVAGE MOVED TO APPROVE APPLICATION # 01-063 SUBJECT TO THE SIGN NOT
BEING SANDBLASTED, BUT BEING A FLAT BOARD SIGN WITH VINYL OR PAINTED
LETTERING. MR. PARRIS SECONDED, AND THE MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY
Robert Seith,116 LocustPlaceS -torage Shed
Mr. Seith is requesting a wood shed to enclose the equipment presently under tarps in his yard,
The shed will be over a stone base and will have a tongue- in-groove floor and vinyl finish. The beige
color will match the house as best he can. It is to be lighter in color than in the picture provided with a
darker roof Two little windows will be on the north side. It will have a little ramp at the entrance to
drive his tractor in.
MR. SALVAGE MOVED TO APPROVE APPLICATION # 01-102 SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING:
1)THAT THE STYLE THAT WAS PRESENTED TONIGHT IS THE STYLE THAT WILL BE
BUILT;2)THE COLORS WILL BE AS FOLLOWS: THE SIDING IS BEIGE,THE TRIM WHITE
AND THE ROOF CHARCOAL;3)A WOOD RAMP TO THE ENTRANCE DOOR WILL BE
PROVIDED;AND 4)THERE WILL BE TWO ( 2)WINDOWS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE
STRUCTURE. MR. WILKENFELD SECONDED,AND THE MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY
Bernie Williams,113 East Elm StreetS -ide and Rear Fence
Mr. Dorman stated that the applicant wants to replace the split rail fence at the Main Street
entrance and the privacy fence along the rear of his property. On Main Street the board fence will be a 4'
and in the rear,5' tall. The fence will be painted hunter green to match trims.
Mr. Myers had some concerns: ( 1)A 4-board fence is really urban,and a picket fence is more
typical in the village. 2( )At least on the Main Street side,it could be dropped to a threer-ail fence rather
than four. On the side it would be 5' high with 5 boards. The problem is at the point of transition. ,
Members suggested turning the corner with the 3-board fence just for the first section and then popping it
up to 5'.Mr. Williams agreed with the proposal to make the Main street side three boards. The top board
will be down a little bit from the posts.
MR. SALVAGE MOVED TO APPROVE APPLICATION # 01-115 SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING:
1)THAT THE FENCE ALONG MAIN STREET AND ONE SECTION OF TRANSITION FROM
MAIN STREET TO THE REAR WILL BE 36"HIGH WITH 3 BOARD CONSTRUCTION;2)THE
COLOR OF ALL THE FENCING WILL BE HUNTER GREEN;AND 3)THE BOARD SIDE OF THE
FENCE MUST FACE MAIN STREET. MR. PARRIS SECONDED,AND THE MOTION WAS
Brian and Leslie Newkirk,226 East BroadwavC -hange ofUse
The applicants wish to change the use ofthe building from an antique shop to a beauty parlor
The beauty parlor currently is at 121 North Prospect. The Building Code Department stated that no
upgrades are necessary. Ms. Newkirk said they plan to clean up the building and make it look better.
Only landscaping and cosmetic improvements are necessary. The upstairs will remain as a rental
MR. WILKENFELD MOVED TO APPROVE APPLICATION # 01-116 AS SUBMITTED. MR.,
PARRIS SECONDED,AND THE MOTION WAS IJNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.
Brian Davis.325 EastMaple StreetR -etainingwall.Fence,Patio
The applicant was not present so the group decided to postpone consideration until later in the
agenda. By the end ofthe meeting he had not appeared, so since there were questions,the Planning Commission wanted to table this.
MR. SALVAGE MOVED TO TABLE APPLICATION # 01-118 UNTIL MR. DAVIS CAN BE
PRESENT. MR. PARRIS SECONDED,AND THE MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.
Centenary UnitedMethodist Church,102 East BroadwavE -ast Addition
Mr. Dorman said tonight the church representatives are here formally to request approval of their
east addition. The BZBA has approved the necessary variances.
Mr. Waggoner said that following the work sessions;two changes are ready for presentation
tonight. ( 1)In the transition,the previous design showed the windows offset and at the Planning
Commission's request,the windows have been redesigned and centered over the door and the stained
glass window will be replaced in the alcove. 2( )The driveway is to be maintained at its present width.
3)The ramp is to be moved inside the building,although it will take up space. The advantage is that
putting the ramp inside means it will be better protected from the elements and more aesthetic. The east
elevation doors will be set back such that the door swings will not penetrate the sidewalk. A( spire will be
added at a later time.)The existing three trees on Broadway will remain.
Mr. Wilkenfeld's original concern was a separation between the old and new buildings, and the
alcove is a nice transition. Although he would have preferred more greenspace,he acknowledges the
amount ofwork that has gone into this project. Mr. Parris hopes that someday the alleyway will be a
The architect,Phil Markwood,described roof design and lighting. They will try to match the
color ofthe stucco with the existing building, but there are cracks in the old stucco that might need repair
and repainting anyway. Mr. Burriss asked whether a slightly different shade could be considered for the
two structures. This would break up the mass. Mr. Markwood agreed and thought a subtle texture change
mightbe as important as a color change.
MR. SALVAGE MOVED TO APPROVE APPLICATION # 01-049 SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING:
1)THAT,WHEN KNOWN,THE EXTERIOR LIGHTING PACKAGE WILL BE BROUGHT BACK
BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR FINAL APPROVAL;AND 2)WHEN KNOWN,THE
FINAL EXTERIOR COLORS AND TEXTURES WILL BE BROUGHT BACK BEFORE THE
PLANNING COMMISSION FOR FINAL APPROVAL. MR. PARRIS SECONDED,AND THE
MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.
Park National Bank.119 East BroadwayA -wning Sign
Having received approval to add two " ATM'signs, the finished product turned out to be much
larger than what was approved. The Village Planner had assumed the drawing was to scale and that each
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sign would be I square foot. Jenny Nelson, wide; the applicant,believed each letter was to be 8"tall and 12" which made the sign disproportionately large. She said there was a misunderstanding on the 8" letters and each letter was to be 12"n,ot the total sign.
Ted Handel,the awning man,said that ifyou scale an 8"letter,you come out with 12"width. It would cost $ 200 to change it now.
Mr.Myers said we are dependent upon drawings submitted to us. In the application it said 8"and it's hard for us to speculate. We have received many complaints about the oversized sign. Also,the application showed a serif font,but this one is not a seriffont. What got done was different from what
was submitted. Ms. Nelson does not argue the point but thought the main concern was color. She thought an 8"x 12"sign would look awkward.
Mr. Salvage said we have been burned in the past by people that built something different then what was approved. We never would have approved this ATM sign. We can table or deny the application,but we prefer for the applicant to tell us what she wants. Ms. Nelson agreed to table it.
MR. SALVAGE MOVED TO TABLE THE REQUEST FOR MODIFICATION TO APPLICATION
01-087,PENDING RECEIPT OF A NEW DRAWING WITH SPECIFICATIONS. MR..PARRIS
SECONDED,AND THE MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.
CertifiedOil Company.433 SouthMain StreetM -inor Modifications
Mr. Dorman said that 1( )At the request of the BZBA,Certified has agreed to add a bike rack on the north side;2 ()At the request of the Tree and Landscape Commission,additional trees should be added
at the rear ofthe building;and ( 3)At the recommendation of Certified's engineers,a storm water
retention pond in front ofthe station needs to be added. It would be a depression of 1'3"over a span of
30' in the right ofway.
Mr. Myers thought the depression would look " awful"in front and will just hold a little bit of
water since they are next to the creek. Since Main Street looks so much better now,it would really be
compromised by these puddles. Water should be able to be channeled into a drain. Mr. Salvage said these
regulations fall under county planning.
Mr. Salvage said the Planning Commission is prepared to approve the bike rack and the
landscaping but they would like to see a different retention than in the landscaping bed in front.
Engineers have to look at what was impervious before, and they only have to add retention if they are
adding to the impervious area. Mr. Myers said retentions are ok in the county but do not fit in the Village
and should not be in the right-of-way.
MR. SALVAGE MOVED THAT WE FIND THE MODIFICATIONS PROPOSED FOR THE
BIKERACK AND ADDITIONAL TREES IN THE BACK ARE MINOR MODIFICATIONS. MR.
WILKENFELD SECONDED, AND THE MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.
MR. SALVAGE MOVED TO APPROVE THE BIKERACK AND THE ADDITIONAL TREE
RECOMMENDATIONS AS PRESENTED. MR. WILKENFELD SECONDED,AND THE MOTION
WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.
MR. SALVAGE MOVED TO TABLE THE BALANCE OF THIS APPLICATION PENDING
RECEIPT OF ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FROM THE APPLICANT. MR. WILKENFELD
SECONDED,AND THE MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.
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Finding of Fact:
MR. SALVAGE MOVED TO APPROVE THE FINDINGS OF FACT FOR A NEW B,C,D,AND F UNDER BUSINESS,AND THAT PART OF B,UNDER OLD BUSINESS,THAT WE CONSIDERED TO BE A MINOR MODIFICATION. ALL THESE FINDINGS ARE CONSISTENT WITH RELEVANT
SECTIONS OF THE VILLAGE PLANNER'S MEMO OF AUGUST 23, 2001. MR. W[LKENFELD SECONDED,AND THE MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.
Adjournment: 9:15 p.m.
Next Meetings:September 10 and 24.
GRANVILLE PLANNING COMMISSION