Granville Community Calendar

GPC 09/24/01

GRANVILLE PLANNING COMMISSION
September 24,2001
Minutes DRAFT
Members Present: Jack Burriss, Barb Lucier, Keith Myers, Mark Parris, Richard Salvage
Members Absent: Carl Wilkenfeld
Also Present: Seth Dorman, Village Planner
Visitors Present: Bob Yonka, Art Chonko, Seth Patton, Rob Firchau, Virginia Sharkey, Dan Rogers,
James R. Cooper
Citizens'Comments: None
The Chair swore in all those who planned to speak.
Minutes of September 20,2001:
Next to last paragraph under IGA, change Andy Furr to Applicant and Certified need to come
back ....
Page 5, Line 3, change to "There will be 6 fueling lanes, including 2 for diesel. The approaches
would be right in, right out on Cherry Valley Road except for access directly across from Bob
Evans...."
Page 5, at end of Super America, add " Mr. Parris had concerns about the first right-hand entry
that the area inside was fairly small for cars to disperse from."
MR. PARRIS MOVED TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS CORRECTED. MR. SALVAGE
SECONDED, AND THE MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.
New Business:
Villaize of Granville - Welcome to Granville Signs
Mr. Dorman said there are three types of signs: 1( )A larger two post, welcome sign, 2()the
same sign but smaller and mounted on one post; and (3)service organizations sign. He stated that after
the last work session we needed to select one of two color schemesw-h- ite lettering on green with white
posts or green letters on white with green posts.
Constance Barsky, from the Beautification Committee, stated her issues with the proposal: 1()
The nature of the logo vs. the logo on the letterhead. The proportions on the letterhead seem to be
better. 2 ()The committee still prefers black lettering on a white background
Suzy Murr added that the size jumped out at her and wondered whether it would rest on lower
posts. Also, the logo is not the one the committee proposed.
Consensus agreed the sign was too large.
Mr. Burriss wondered whether the grass would be maintained under the signs, and as such he
would like to see the sign installed higher
Mr. Parris thought the height of the posts would be more determined by the location and
topography and its relevance to the road. Mr. Dorman said no determination has been made about
where the signs will go. Mr. Myers thought there could be a little sign at each entrance and did not
think the larger sign would even be needed. He likes the sign hanging on the post.
For the organizational sign, Mr. Burriss asked whether each organization would have meeting
times listed and was told yes. Mr. Myers stated that the size of the service sign needs to be as small as
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possiblenmaybe,4- x,!2'.Mr. Parris stated his concern that white signs tend to lookdirty after some
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Ms.Lucier stated that the Village Council preferred the green background,and that it appears
the consensus of the Planning Commission is for the green also.
Mr. Burriss likes the hanging sign but it needs to be at a proper height to reflect headlights.
The logo was controversial and it was determined that it should be bigger. After some
discussion about the logo,in which the Planning Commission stated they did not really like the logo,
Ms.Barsky said a compromise could be the white background sign and no center graphic. Mr.
Dorman will have a new mock-up made illustrating this idea,and will determine the size needed for the
service organization sign.
MR. SALVAGE MOVED TO TABLE APPLICATION0 #1-122, PENDING THE RECEIPT OF
ADDITIONAL SIGN SAMPLES. MR. BURRISS SECONDED, AND THE MOTION WAS
UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.
Rob Firchau,126 North Prospect Street C-hange ofUse
The applicant wants to change the building from a coffee shop to a retail shop for specialty
foods. No issues were raised.
MR. SALVAGE MOVED TO APPROVE APPLICATION0 #1-129 AS PRESENTED. MR. BURRISS
SECONDED,AND THE MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.
Rob Firchau, 126 North Prospect StreetW -all and Sandwich Board Signs
The applicant wishes to install two signs: 1 ()A 4'x4'wall sign to replace the existing sign on the
south side,and 2( )A 2'x4' sandwich board sign.
Mr. Firchau said the lettering on the sandwich board is both dark olive green and black. All
lettering is black with green logo. The green on the wall sign is Pantone 371 and will have a black edge.
Since a wall sign may not exceed 8 square feet,a variance is required for this 16 square foot sign.
Mr. Salvage applied the application to the criteria in 1147.03:
A. That special circumstances or conditions exist which are peculiar to the land or structure(s)
involved and which are not applicable to other lands or structures in the same zoning
district. The sign is in an existing sign location.
B. That a literal interpretation ofthe provisions ofthis Zoning Ordinance would deprive the
applicants of rights commonly enjoyed by other properties in the same zoning district under
the provisions of this ordinance. It is clear,we have wall signs everywhere,and a literal
interpretation would deprive the applicant ofrights commonly enjoyed by other properties.
C. That the special conditions and circumstances do not result from the actions of the applicant.
No.
D. That the granting of this variance will not confer on the applicant any undue privilege that is
denied by this Ordinance to other lands or structures in the same zoning district. No
E. That the granting of the variance will in no other manner adversely affect the health,safety
and general welfare of the persons residing or working within the vicinity of the proposed
variance. No.
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MR. SALVAGE SAID THAT BECAUSE OF THE ARGUMENTS CITED,I MOVE TO GRANT A
VARIANCE ON THE SIZE OF THE WALL SIGN FOR APPLICATION # 01-130. MR.BURRISS
SECONDED,AND THE MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.
MR. SALVAGE MOVED TO APPROVE APPLICATION # 01-130, SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING:
1)THAT ON THE WALL SIGN THERE WILL BE A BLACK BORDER;AND 2)THAT ON THE
SANDWICH BOARD SIGN WE APPROVE THE USE OF BOTH OLIVE GREEN AND BLACK
LETTERING. MR. PARRIS SECONDED,AND THE MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.
St.Luke's Episcopal Church,118 SouthMain StreetG -round Sign
Mr. Dorman said the applicant is proposing a 3'x2' ground sign on an existing pole with a white
background,blue lettering and border,and the crest as shown.
Ginny Sharkey from the church had nothing to add.
Mr. Parris asked Mr. Dorman to explain why this sign is nonconforming and was told that as the
pole exists, it is within the right-of-way. To be outside ofthe right-of-way,the sign would have to be 5'-
6' inside the building. This requires a variance.
Mr. Salvage said this replaces a sign that was there in front ofthe property owned by the Village.
Mr. Parris applied the application to the criteria for variances:
A. That special circumstances or conditions exist which are peculiar to the land or structure(s)
involved and which are not applicable to other lands or structures in the same zoning
district. The special circumstances include the placement of the building on the lot, and that the
pole for the sign is already in place.
B. That a literal interpretation of the provisions of this Zoning Ordinance would deprive the
applicants of rights commonly enjoyed by other properties in the same zoning district under
the provisions of this ordinance. We have to grant variances,because of these types of
situations, quite often in the Village, so I do not think we would be doing anything we have not
seen fit to do for anyone else.
C. That the special conditions and circumstances do not result from the actions of the applicant.
No, they did not place the building where it is now.
D. That the granting of this variance will not confer on the applicant any undue privilege that is
denied by this Ordinance to other lands or structures in the same zoning district. No,it is the
nature ofthe location.
E. That the granting of the variance will in no other manner adversely affect the health,safety
and general welfare of the persons residing or working within the vicinity of the proposed
variance. No.
MR. PARRIS MOVED TO APPROVE A VARIANCE FOR APPLICATION # 01-131 TO PLACE THE
SIGN ON THE EXISTING POLE,WHICH IS IN A NONCONFORMING LOCATION. MR.
BURRISS SECONDED,AND THE MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.
Ginny Sharkey stated that they want to identify this as a part of St. Luke's rather than Sensibilities.
You can see it from both directions. The front door is on the north side and will have no sign. This sign
will be temporary until the first lease is up in three years,at which time we might request a more
permanent sign. Mr. Burriss said the current sign at the church is so fantastic that it would be an
appropriate design for the new sign.
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MR. PARRIS MOVED TO APPROVE APPLICATION0 #1-131 AS SUBMITTED. MR.BURRISS
SECONDED,AND THE MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.
Denison UniversityC -ampus Commons Project
Mr.Dorman explained the three proposed plans: 1 ()A new life science building,Talbot Hall;2 ()
A 380c-arunderground parking garage;and 3 ()A new administrationc/lassroombuilding,BurtonD.
Morgan Center.
Mr. Chonko said there might be some slight changes in the plans,but nothing significant. The
planned buildings are consistent with other buildings on campus. Morgan will tie into Knapp Hall,and
the garage will attach to Slayter at ground level.
1)MR. SALVAGE MOVED TO APPROVE APPLICATION0 #1-132,FOR TALBOT HALL AS
PRESENTED. MR. BURRISS SECONDED,AND THE MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY
APPROVED.
2)MR. SALVAGE MOVED TO APPROVE APPLICATION0 #1-133,FOR THE
UNDERGROUND PARKING GARAGE AS PRESENTED. MR. PARRIS SECONDED,AND
THE MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.
3)MR. SALVAGE MOVED TO APPROVE APPLICATION0 #1-134,FOR THE BURTON D.
MORGAN CENTER AS PRESENTED. MR. PARRIS SECONDED,AND THE MOTION WAS
UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.
Denison Universitv.204 West BroadwayS -ervice Gate
The applicant wishes to install a wood gate with posts across the path at Henderson Garden by the
Monomoy House garage. No objections were noted.
MR.PARRIS MOVED TO APPROVE APPLICATION0 #1-135 AS PRESENTED. MR. BURRISS
SECONDED,AND THE MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.
Old Business:
Granville Village Schools,248 New Burg Street M- odification
Mr. Salvage recused himselfin order to present the application. }
Mr. Dorman stated that the plan previously approved included a driveway extension that would
have extended across the school property with access to Burg Street. Now they want to remove that part
ofit and leave the greenspace. Mr. Salvage added that when they did the final architectural drawings,
they realized there would be a fire code problem,so they went back to dropping offschool children on the
other side ofthe school. There is no longer a need for an extension from the middle school and the
request is to leave that area with the current landscaping as is.
Ms. Lucier asked what were the benefits for the previous plan,and Mr. Salvage said they wanted
to fully separate passenger drop-offfrom bus drop off. Busses drop offin front and cars drop offin the
rear.
MR. BURRISS MOVED THAT THIS IS A MINOR MODIFICATION. MR. PARRIS SECONDED,
AND THE MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED. 4
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MR. PARRIS MOVED TO APPROVE AMODIFICATION TO APPLICATION0 #10-54 AS
PRESENTED. MR. BURRISS SECONDED,AND THE MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY
APPROVED.
Work Session:
Dan Rogers.210 EastMaple StreetC -ontinuedDiscussion ofNonc-ompliant Garage
Mr. Salvage recused himselffrom considering this work session. }
Mr. Rogers repeated that the main issues were:1 ()Where the windows sit,and he said the window
will but up into the banding. 2 ()The shed roofor protection over doors;3 ()The style ofdoors;4 ()The
matching ofthe double window in the back;and ( 5)The side view ofthe shed roofover the garage door.
He explained these concerns to the group.
Mr. Myers stated that the front elevation over all has come a long way. He is not crazy about the
horizontal windows in the back. Mr. Rogers said the horizontal window matches the horizontal window
on the house.
Mr. Burriss stated that the window should be installed high enough to be over the headlights.
Repeating the window pattern makes it more comfortable with other windows. He asked how garage
doors will function and was told that it looks like four individual doors but there will be two sliding doors,
opening only halfway.
More discussion ensued on the windows,the detail ofthe bottom ofthe building,and the scale of
the little cornices.
Mr. Rogers is ready to make an application. Mr. Burriss requested detail on the bottom ofthe
building.
Finding ofFact:MR.PARRIS MOVED TO APPROVE THE FINDINGS OF FACT FOR ( B,C,D,E,
F,G,H)UNDER NEW BUSINESS AND ( A)UNDER OLD BUSINESS. ALL OF THESE FINDINGS
ARE CONSISTENT WITH RELEVANT SECTIONS OF THE VILLAGE PLANNER'S MEMO OF
SEPTEMBER 20,2001. MR. BURRISS SECONDED,AND THE MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY
APPROVED.
Adjournment: 9:00 p.m.
Next Meetings:October 9 and 22
Respectfully submitted,
Betty Allen
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