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GPC Minutes 11/26/2001

GRANVILLE PLANNING COMMISSION

November 26,2001

Minutes

Members Present: Barb Lucier,Keith Myers, Mark Parris, Richard Salvage, Carl Wilkenfeld Members Absent: Jack Burriss

Also Present: Seth Dorman, Village Planner

Visitors Present: Jim &Jeanetta Pyle, Kathy Kerns, Walt Denny, Carolyn Carter, Eloise DeZwarte, Bea Eisenberg, Ted Handel, Ashlin Caravana, Kenneth Dickerman

Citizens'Comments: None

The Chair swore in all those who planned to speak.

Minutes of November 13,2001:Consideration of Minutes will be postponed until the next meeting.

Old Business:

Jim & Jeanetta Pyle.122 South Prospect Street - Demolition

The application was tabled at the last meeting,pending additional information on the future use of

the land.

Mr. Pyle stated that they want to expedite the process because the Historical Society plans to move

the Sinnett House through 122 South Prospect Street. There is a 60-day waiting period during which the

Ohio Historical Society reviews the historical aspects ifthey are deemed significant.

Eloise DeZwarte was concerned about the demolition because Granville is constantly working on

beautification of our village and she is not happy about a vacant lot. Also, Ganville Fellowship is

desperate for a house;could this be a spot for them?The Library will be partly funded by a levy and will

ask for support. When things like this are done,an overall plan should first be shown to let us know

exactly what will happen. She thinks we need more information.

Ashlin Caravana echoed Ms. DeZwarte's concerns for demolition without knowing exactly what

is going to be done there,and she would not like to see a vacant lot.

Kathy Kern,President ofLibrary Board,said the Library needs access to the space currently

housing the Sinnett House. They want to start demolition now because it is a vacant house and on the tax

register. They have hired an architect and will start a 17-week design plan in January 2002. They want to

expedite in order to help the Historical Society save the Sinnett House.

Mr. Myers is still curious about the timing. He would not have a problem with the Pyle house

going down and another building going in,but does not desire a vacant lot. Also,the levy is a year away.

Walt Denny, from the Library Board,feels it should be done now since the Pyles have tried for a

year to get this done, but there are problems with moving the house,i.e.,trees and the height. The Library

has given the Historical Society until the end of February to get their funding,and the demolition needs to

be done before that time.

Ashlin Caravana said when the Historical Society came before BZBA,it did not appear to be on a

fast track,and lots ofthings have to be done first. She thought the Pyle house could be rented until it is

demolished.

Mr. Parris questions the timeline because the Planning Commission is working with the Historical

Society as well. We are supportive and hope they can move the Sinnett House,but that will not happen

right away. They need funding and approvals. What will eventually be on the lot?Additional parking?

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Mr.Denny said there are not enough parking spaces,and one thought was to build an underground

parking garage.

Mr.Wilkenfeld said we need more books and fewer cars. He asked whether the Pyle house has

historical value,and Mr. Salvage said ourjob is to make a recommendation to the Village Manager,and

he needs to know whether the house has historical or architectural value. Mr. Salvage sees nothing that

would let us recommend against demolition.

Mr.Myers said the architectural value is the context ofthe house on the street. The house is not of

significant historical importance,but it is very important in maintaining the architectural character ofthe

streetscape. The purpose is to maintain a distinct phase ofthe village's history. He is concerned about

what will happen in the future. Once you make a decision to demolish a building,you can never get it

back,and he is not in favor of demolition.

Ms. Lucier said she brought up this subject at Village Council and we seem to be proceeding with

this in a backward fashion. She does not have a problem with this building coming down,but this is not

the correct time.

Mr. Myers said the Design Group will provide real drawings for the site,and that would raise our

comfort level.

Mr. Wilkenfeld feels this is premature and is uncomfortable about the demolition.

Mr. Parris does not see why it needs to come down now. Once everything is ready,the Planning

Commission can move fairly quickly. The Historical Society needs funding first. He had asked for some

idea ofwhat was going onto the lot and the applicants have provided this. It appears it might be a vacant

lot for at least a year.

Walt Denny described what the vacant lot would look like with grass and trees.

Mr.Myers thought the stakes were high as far as the Library levy is concerned. Ifthe levy passes,

OK,but if it does not,we are left with a hole. There are a lot offuzzy issues now,and there is too much

risk to make an irrevocable decision. We need to see architectural drawings first. He would just as soon

not act on this application now,but Mr.Pyle wanted GPC's answer tonight. They have a contract to

move the house or demolish it by a certain date.

MR. WILKENFELD MOVED TO TAKE THE APPLICATION OFF THE TABLE RETROACTIVELY

TO THE BEGINNING OF THE DISCUSSION. MR. SALVAGE SECONDED,AND THE MOTION

WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.

MR. SALVAGE MOVED THAT THE PLANNING'COMMISSION RECOMMEND THE

DEMOLITION APPLICATION BE APPROVED BY THE VILLAGE MANAGER. MR..PARRISS

SECONDED,AND THE VOTE WAS: MR. PARRIS-YES;MR. SALVAGE-YES;MR.

WILKENFELD-ABSTAINED;MR. MYERS-NO.

Lacking a three-vote majority,there is no recommendation of approval to pass onto the Village Manager.

AndrewT &ricia Rawnsley,430 West BroadwayF -ence Modification

Mr. Dorman said the applicant cannot be here tonight because of a death in the family,and he

could present the modification. The fence was built with more fencing than what was approved. It was

supposed to start behind the window,but goes to the edge of the front facade of the house. It does not

infringe on any setbacks other than the TCOD.

MR. SALVAGE MOVED TO FIND THE MODIFICATION A MINOR ONE. MR. PARRIS

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SECONDED AND THE MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.

MR. SALVAGE MOVED TO APPROVE THE MODIFICATION TO APPLICATION # PRESENTED. 01-138 AS MR. PARRIS SECONDED,AND THE MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.

Ashlin Caravana.209 East Elm StreetF e-nceModification

The temporary green wire fence was originally approved to contain the child and would have been replaced by landscaping eventually. But now they have a dog that needs to learn boundaries,so the

applicant is seeking permanent approval ofthe fence. They do not want to install a picket fence or an invisible fence. The neighbors have no problem with the fence.

MR. SALVAGE MOVED TO FIND THE MODIFICATION A MINOR ONE. MR. WILKENFELD

SECONDED,AND THE MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.

MR. SALVAGE MOYED TO APPROVE THE MODIFICATION TO APPLICATION0 #00-22. MR.

WILKENFELD SECONDED,AND THE MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.

New Business:

New Day Spa, 1287 Cherry Valley Road- Parking Lot Expansion

Because of an increase in their business,the applicants wish to expand parking lot from 6 to 16

spaces. This will require a variance from BZBA for maximum spaces and being inside the minimum side

yard setback. Carolyn Carter said they were supposed to have a 4 2'/' fence to deter headlights,but the

two huge pine trees have big roots and they can't install a fence,so they wanted a 6' painted wood

privacy fence. They have new neighbors with an unsavory appearance to their property. There is a chain

link fence on their property.

Mr. Salvage is glad to see the business is a success, and the parking has no negative visual aspects,

but he wishes they could take out the chain link,a suggestion echoed by Mr. Myers. He is willing to pass

a resolution of recommendation to BZBA.

MR. SALVAGE MOVED THAT THE GRANVILLE PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVE THE

APPLICATION AS PRESENTED;THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION ALSO INDICATE THEIR

DESIRE FOR THE FENCE TO BE ON THE PROPERTY LINE AND TO REPLACE THE EX[STING

CHAIN LINK FENCE IF THE APPLICANT SO DESIRES AND CAN WORK IT OUT WITH THE

NEIGHBOR;AND THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDS TO THE BZBA TO

APPROVE THE VARIANCES NEEDED TO ACCOMPLISH THIS. MR. PARRIS SECONDED,AND

THE MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.

MoundB-uilders Real Estate, 130 East BroadwavC -hange ofUse

The applicant wishes to rent the former Taylor's Drug Store and a change of use is required to

change from a drug store to a real estate office.

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MR.PARRIS MOVED TO APPROVE APPLICATION0 #1-163 AS PRESENTED. MR. SALVAGE

SECONDED,AND THE MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.

MoundB-uilders Real Estate,130 East BroadwayC -anopy andWindow Signs

The real estate office is applying for a canopy sign and a window sign. The replacement awning

will be navy blue and turquoise stripes,and will say Mound- Builders Real Estate. The placement and

construction will match that ofthe Village Coffee Shop.

The color was discussed,and Mr. Salvage wanted to see color samples.

MR. SALVAGE MOVED TO APPROVE APPLICATION0 #1-164 WITH THE CONDITION THAT

COLOR SAMPLES BE PROVIDED TO THE VILLAGE PLANNER FOR FINAL APPROVAL. MR.

PARRIS SECONDED,AND THE MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.

Kenneth Dickerman,321 North Pearl StreetR -emodel Porches

The applicant has already begun work on rebuilding 1St and 2nd story porches in the rear. He

wanted to create a bigger back yard by removing the catwalk.

MR.WILKENFELD MOVED TO APPROVE APPLICATION0 #1-165 AS SUBMITTED. MR.

PARRIS SECONDED,AND THE MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.

Work Session:

Brvn DuWoodsIm -prove White Barn

Mr. Parris recused himself in order to present the plan ofthe homeowners association. It is a

small white barn which needs to be upgraded. They want to add steps and guard rails. They want to put

trim on opening and repair the battens. It will be painted white. Steps will go in the center 12' section.

The other two sections will have guardrails installed. Alternatively,they could bring in dirt and slope it

up to the opening.

Mr. Myers recommended raising the grade 18".They could raise it to 18"and not need the

railing. The simplification ofraising the grade is consistent with the simplicity ofthe barn's architecture.

Finding of Fact: MR. SALVAGE MOVED TO APPROVE THE FINDINGS OF FACT FOR A

THROUGH C UNDER OLD BUSINESS AND A THROUGH D UNDER NEW BUSINESS AND WE

FIND THEM CONSISTENT WITH RELEVANT SECTIONS OF THE CODE AS DESCRIBED IN

THE V[LLAGE PLANNER'S MEMO OF NOVEMBER 21, 2001. MR. WILKENFELD SECONDED,

AND THE MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.

Adjournment: 9:15 p.m.

Next Meetings: December 10, 2001

January 14, 2001

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