GRANVILLE PLANNING COMMISSION
February 12, 2001
Members Present:Jack Burriss,Barbara Lucier, Mark Parris, Richard Salvage, Carl Wilkenfeld Members Absent:Keith Myers
Also Present:Seth Dorman, Village Planner
Visitors Present: Norm Ingle,Bob Hill, David Neel, John Steve Minsker,Walter Palawsky,Kathryn Kern, Cramer, Phil Markwood,Celeste Stevenson
The Vice Chair, Carl Wilkenfeld, swore in all those who planned to speak.
Election of Officers: CARL WILKENFELD MOVED TO ELECT KEITH MYERS
CHAIRPERSON. MR. BURRISS SECONDED,AND THE MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY
APPROVED. MR. BURRISS NOMINATED RICHARD SALVAGE AS VICE CHAIR AND MR.
PARRIS SECONDED,AND THE MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.
Mr. Salvage assumed the Chairperson's seat and began his new duties.
Minutes of January 22,200*MR. PARRIS MOVED TO APPROVE MINUTES AS WRITTEN.
MR. WILKENFELD SECONDED,AND MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.
Walter Palawsky. 202 East Elm Street E -xterior Renovations
The applicant wishes to begin exterior renovations, and Mr. Dorman introduced them in a
PowerPoint presentation: 1( )Remove exterior door on east side elevation;2 ()Change gutters and
downspouts;3 ()Replacem/ odify brick patio; 4()Reinstall original shutters;5 ()Remove screening on
Elm Street side porch, restoring to original condition;6 ()Install white picket fence running east to
west, on the north lot line.
Mr. Parris asked if the fencing will be all vinyl or just the posts, and Mr. Palawsky said all
vinyl, and as Mr. Dorman's presentation showed, the neighbor's fence is a pretty accurate
representation of what it will look like.
Mr. Salvage asked if the door would be removed all together, and Mr. Palawsky said the one
on the north side o( f the east elevationt)h,at is correct.
Mr. Parris asked if there are two doors on the Elm Street side porch, and Mr. Palawsky said
just one, and Mr. Parris replied so that will be the main entrance.
Mr. Parris then said having looked at the structure this morning some of the windows are pretty
close together, is there room to put shutters on all the windows?Mr. Palawsky said no, that I will put
them up wherever they look right, and I am trying for symmetry and balance.
Mr. Wilkenfeld asked Mr. Palawsky to explain what is being done with the brick patio and he
Mr. Parris said that it appears, with the way the blocks are under the supporting structures
porch on the east elevation)th,at originally there was a wood porch there and somebody tore it out.
He then asked if there are any plans to change the look of the slab, and Mr. Palawsky said actually I am
going to put the wood porch back, so it will look like the porch on Elm Street and then flow into the
brick between the driveway and the porch.
Mr. Wilkenfeld clarified that the fence ( on the north lot line)will run parallel to the van in the
picture in Mr. Dorman's presentation, and Mr. Palawsky said yes, exactly.
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MR. BURRIS MOVED TO APPROVE0 #10-04 AS SUBMITTED. MR.WILKENFELD
SECONDED,AND MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.
Work Session on Granville Christian AcademyG (race Haven):
Celeste Stevenson explained the school's plans to expand with one or two modular classrooms
because they have run out of space at the school. They are turning students away now,and eventually
they will build a new school on a new location. The area indicated for the modular classrooms was
originally reserved for a two-story addition,but the modular classrooms will be one story with no
bathroom facilities and connected to the present school facilities. Currently there is a 3.5-foot mound
with pine trees between the Village Green and us. One modular unit 6(0'x24w')ould house 48 students
in two classrooms,and two ( 60'x57') would house 96 students in four classrooms. The modular units
are just like the ones currently used by Granville Schools. They are state approved commercial
structures,that meet all building codes,are 5B construction,Use Group E and ADA accessible,with a
height range from 12'8"to 13'6"depending on the roof pitch. Some of the aesthetics include a
permanent foundation with skirting,white siding to match the church building,exterior decking and the
units will have gutters and downspouts. In addition,we plan to add more trees along the dividing line
between the Village Green and us.
Mr. Burriss asked if when you have multiple units do they appear'to be one unit or are they
separate. Ms. Stevenson said they are separate and will have a 10'walkwy between them.
Mr. Burriss asked about the existing AC units, and Ms. Stevenson said with the modular units
running parallel to the brick portion of the building,the units would be hidden.
Mr. Burriss asked what the proposal was for the existing storage shed, and Ms. Stevenson said
it would be removed.
Mr. Burriss stated that from what you have said, this is more than a temporary installation,and
Ms. Stevenson said but it is temporary,because they can always be moved and the plan is to return
them to the company,when we are finished, for reimbursement.
Mr. Wilkenfeld reiterated, so these are not visible from the road, and Ms. Stevenson said no.
Mr. Wilkenfeld asked if Ms. Stevenson has had the opportunity to talk to the neighbors whose
houses will be affected, and she said not yet. Mr. Wilkenfeld said I would like to bring them into the
loop and if you can work out some of their concerns when you come back to us that would be very
Mr. Burriss stated that a site plan would be needed that showed the existing building,parking
lot and relationships there,but the distances to houses that would be affected;some indication of the
extent of the mound;and the location and some indication of the size of the trees on the mound ( which
could be done with photos as well).
Mr. Wilkenfeld asked Mr. Dorman to go through the code and make sure whatever is brought
in matches the code,and let Granville Christian Academy know of anything that might be pertinent to
Mr. Burriss asked if these were the only options they offer as far as exterior packages go, and
Ms. Stevenson said the company told her there are a lot of options.
Mr. Burriss said some thought to what will be done with the downspout water would be
appropriate,including where the current downspout water is goilg. The proposals should be submitted
on a site plan of the entire development.
There was some discussion as to the next step in the process, and Mr. Burriss mentioned
notifying the neighbors and Ms. Stevenson said how many houses, and Planning Commission told her
within 200 feet of the property.
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Mr. Salvage said you might open the door of discussion with the neighbors by simply sending
out a letter of explanation and what the proposal is and giving a number for the neighbors to call and discuss the proposal.
Mr. Burriss said he would also like information on the windows package,what the options are and what the school would like;further he stated that the more detail you can give us as to what you
want the better. In addition he said the proposal should include the roof slope, and it might be
beneficial for the school to obtain all the information and come back for another work session.
Mr. Salvage reiterated that this is zoned PUD, and Mr. Dorman confirmed that it is, and Mr.
Salvage then said that Planning Commission won't be giving final approval for this, it will have to go to
Council, and if you want these to be ready for next year you will have to move quick.
Mr. Parris noted that these units are being presented as temporary structures, with no end
point, and as such might be something you will want to discuss, in other words what is the definition of
temporary. Mr. Salvage then said that we would have to approve these as permanent structures.
Mr. Burriss added that the proposal would need to address any overhead wiring, where the
electrical meters will be located, and whether the HVAC units will be wall mounted or roof mounted.
Work Session for Granville Historical Society:
Dick Daley, President, introduced Bob Hill, Dave Neal, and George Wales. Bob Hill began by
saying they are simply in the planning stages for their proposal to move the Sinnett House behind the
Museum to enable them to have more space and at the same time giving the Public Library space to
expand. Preserving the historic Sinnett House, which was previously moved in 1946, would also do the
community a service. Although the Granville Fellowship will lose their home,the Historical Society
will do what it can to find a new home for the Fellowship.
Dick Daley stated the Museum's main goals: ( 1)Gather information of 208 century artifacts;
2)Exhibition space;3 ()Expansion of archives area;4 ()Add reading room for community access;5 ()
Store township and village records;6 ()Office for partt-ime person to assist with database creation.
David Neel said they had a survey done showing setbacks, etc. for the bank and museum. The
west side is 8' into the alley;PNB is right on the property line. On June 16, 1952, Village Council
passed a resolution granting them 9' into the public alleyway and an asphalt drive leading to the drivethrough.
They also have a right to the sidewalk leading to the ATM.
George Wales stated that there would be something like a glass-enclosed space between the
Museum and the Sinnett House. They will remove the kitchen; there will be a basement and maybe an
Bob Hill showed his model of the proposed expansion. The basements would be connected.
The gables are the same.' The house- mover thought this project feasible with removal of one dead tree.
It will appear quite massive but only from the Aladdin.
Mr. Burriss thought the second story would be better if not over the entire structure, and the
second floor could be moved back a little. It's important to preserve the appearance of both buildings.
Mr. Parris noted the importance of preventing the Sinnett House from being destroyed. In the
absence of an alternative, he thought this plan might work, but he would rather see more land around it.
Mr. Salvage would like to see detailed site plan, including the bank and measurements.
Permission will be required from Village Council to use the public alley.
Mr. Burriss asked about the traffic flow behind the building, more detail of the side of Sinnett
House, said that the two buildings have to be comfortable with each other, and also to show setbacks.
He also suggested talking to the Newark Building Code office about their fire code requirements, etc.
Work Session on Methodist Church:
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Architect Philip Markwood showed the updates with the site survey and the revised elevations
on front facade. There will be a small entrance on the west side,identical to that on the east,and
extensive renovations on the east side. The parking lot will be restriped to gain several more spaces,but
the parking on the east will be eliminated. He explained how the bank encroaches into the easement.
They are still working on design work and kitchen plans,but they want to remove the mansard roof on
the classroom building and put in a joint line with stucco,a new strip over it and tile atop. Bracketed
cornices with tile work will be on east and west sides. The steeple is almost identical to what was there
before but of a slightly different material,although it is not apart of the addition proposal,it is just
there for master planning.
Mr. Wilkenfeld feels a conflict because part of him wants to give the church what they need
and the other part of him says this is a very important corner in the Village and a big portion of green
space is taken up and creating a narrow alley and removing trees. He wondered about percentage of lot
Mr. Markwood repeated the church's needs,with handicap access,etc. They cannot expand to
the north with different floor levels in the Education Building. The alley will be 12'111h"after
development versus 19-20' now.
Mr. Burriss finds this plan greatly improved over the previous one,but he is troubled about the
exit doors on Broadway. Moving the addition fagade back on the Broadway side would allow more
greenspace and break up the facade offering a softening effect of the corner instead of at a right angle,
so it is perceived as wider. Mr. Markwood thinks this might be do-able.
Mr. Parris was doubtful about mixing half-rounds,arches, and triangle windows on one facade.
Next steps are to finalize the site plan and get footprint approval from the BZBA. Also the
Church should talk to the bank people and inform them of plans.
Finding of Fact: MR. WILKENFELD MOVED TO APPROVE FINDING FOR ITEM A
PALAWSKY)UNDER NEW BUSINESS, AND GPC FINDS THAT THE FINDING IS
CONSISTENT WITH RELEVANT SECTIONS OF THE CODE AS PRESENTED IN THE
VILLAGE PLANNER'S MEMO OF FEBRUARY 6,2001. MR. BURRISS SECONDED, AND IT
WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.
Next Meetings: February 26, 2001, 7:30 p.m.
March 12 (Ms. Lucier will be absent),7:30 p.m.