Granville Community Calendar

GPC Minutes 4/9/2001

GRANVILLE PLANNING COMMISSION

April 9,2001

Minutes

DRAFT

Members Present: Jack Burriss, Keith Myers, Mark Parris, Richard Salvage,Carl Wilkenfeld Members Absent: Barb Lucier

Also Present: Seth Dorman, Village Planner

Visitors Present: Art Chonko, Stewart Dyke, Evelyne Poelzing, Andrew Furr, Ilkka Aro, Todd and Debbie Troutman, Greg Ream

Citizens' Comments: None

The Chair,Keith Myers,swore in all those who planned to speak.

Minutes of March 26, 2001: Page 2, second line, change to: a"re.a..on the top of the hill.M..R".

WILKENFELD MOVED TO APPROVE MINUTES WITH ONE CORRECTION. MR. PARRIS

SECONDED, AND MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.

New Business:

Ilkka Aro, 335 Summit Street -Addition

Mr. Dorman stated that the applicant wants to add a master bedroom suite of 415 square feet on

the east side of the house. No variances are necessary. Mr. Aro added that they have two bedrooms and

want to add another,preferring to remain there while their child is in school nearby. New windows will

match the existing ones.

Mr. Salvage stated that these are great drawings, and Mr. Myers complimented the applicant on

the nice application.

MR. SALVAGE MOVED TO APPROVE APPLICATION AS SUBMITTED; MR. BURRIS

SECONDED, AND IT WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.

Denison University - Signs

Art Chonko described the plans for various construction and informational signs to be placed

around campus, including those at entrances on North Pearl,Burg Street, and Main.

Signs will go up and down depending on when the work is to be completed. They will combine signs

wherever they can, but some have different removal dates. The bigger informational sign at Main will

remain up until the end of the project, around May 2003. The sign on Burg will hold changeable

informational signs directing people to proper destinations. None of the signs will be lit.

Mr. Wilkenfeld wanted assurances that none of these signs would interfere with automobile

visibility.

Mr. Salvage asked whether the signs fit within the code, and Mr. Dorman replied yes, the big

sign is larger than code, but GPC has authority to approve the size for temporary signs not otherwise

listed in the code.

Mr. Salvage said the contractor signs probably could not be combined, but they should be of

similar colors and side by side, with each having its own logo.

Mr. Myers summarized that on the Pearl Street sign, we want no interference with traffic

visibility. The construction sign should be the same size, black and white with personal logos, which

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remain up for the duration of the project.

MR. SALVAGE MOVED TO APPROVE APPLICATION0 #10-27, SUBJECT TO THE

FOLLOWING (1)THAT CONSTRUCTION SIGNS AT BOTH MAIN &COLLEGE AND NORTH

PEARL STREET BE SITTING SIDE BY SIDE AND BE THE SAME SIZE, SAME COLORING

WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE COLOR BLUE FOR THE CONTRACTORS, AND 2)THAT WE

ALLOW THE TEMPORARY INFORMATINAL SIGN BE UP FOR A PERIOD OF 3 YEARS. MR.

PARRIS SECONDED, AND IT WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.

HelmutE &velyne Poetzing, 126 West Elm Street M- ajor renovations

Mr. Dorman explained the project, consisting of a number of renovations:

1)Expand sunroom

2)Expand dining room

3) Remove part of front porch and add an attached one-car garage

4) Expand front porch to full width of house

5) Build an arbor on east and remove existing concrete

Mrs. Poelzing explained that they just bought the house for their retirement and wish to make it

larger.

Mr. Wilkenfeld stated that this is a historic house in a historic area. In the past similar requests

for modern garages on historic houses have been denied

Mr. Parris asked whether there would be parking in the existing driveway under the arbor, and

Mrs. Poelzing said there is parking there now.

Mr. Myers asked whether they would remove the driveway, and she said all the area will be

replaced with brick in front and flowers in the rear. There is room for one car there. Brick will replace

existing concrete. On the west there will be a new driveway in brick, identical to the other side so the

house has balance.

Mr. Parris asked whether she would be willing to address the look of the garage door and roof

somewhat to make more of a carriage house look, and Mr. Wilkenfeld added that the plans go from one

side of the lot to the other so there is a massing problem. Mrs. Poelzing said the neighbor's house is

far away.

Mr. Myers asked about setbacks and Mr. Dorman said they are OK on the west but the east

plans would require a setback variance. Other requirements are met. Mr. Myers added that (1)on a

66' lot, two curb cuts is a potential problem and breaks rhythm of the street. 2 ( ) S"nout"houses with

garages jutting out before front facades are a challenge and would not be good in this historic

neighborhood. He suggested making the porch smaller. He would have a problem approving this

application and suggested she find a way to use the existing garage. Extending the porch and putting

the garage on the west side is going to be difficult for us to accept in a historic district. He suggested

moving it to the back on the east side to save the integrity of appearance. He also suggested moving the

arbor to the west side in line with house and connected to it. There is already green space there.

Mr. Burris asked about the bay window, and Mrs. Poelzing said it was not original to the house.

Mr. Burris said he is sympathetic to her needs, as far as space is concerned, but wants to help her with

some architectural details to make the addition feel like it belongs with the house. Other homes in this

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area maintain architectural integrity, and there are ways to achieve what you want in a slightly different

language. We would be glad to look at other plans, or we could plan a work session.

Mrs. Poelzing said the windows will not change, and you will have the same feeling of the house as now.

Mr. Burriss said the house is a nice rectangle and that's a strong character. Putting the porch all

the way across makes it uncharacteristically horizontal. The walls are vertical on one plane and a

change would bother him. Consistency is important.

MR. WILKENFELD MOVED TO TABLE APPLICATION # 01-028, WITH THE APPLICANT'S

AGREEMENT. MR. SALVAGE SECONDED, AND IT WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.

Old Business:

Taylor's Drug Store, 200 East Broadway

Greg Ream stated there would be a step down between the drug store and the bank on the north

side. The initial plan did not take the grade change into account, and they need to accommodate

rainwater runoff. It's about a 36"drop. They want to step it down and meld the two properties into

one, and remove the retaining wall. Plantings will be added

t Mr. Burriss asked whether the step could be a pedestrian walkway, but Mr. Ream said it would

be pretty steep for walking.

MR. SALVAGE MOVED THAT THIS IS A MINOR MODIFICATION; MR. WILKENFELD

SECONDED, AND THIS WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.

Mr. Ream reported that Mr. Siegel from the Tree and Landscape Committee said it was foolish

to put in another tree to replace the one being removed because of the width of the bed. He said the

bed was choking the tree because it's bigger around than is logical for a tree of that height. They could

add other trees later. Mr. Myers prefers deciduous trees, i.e.,maple or ash trees.

Mr. Ream explained about curbs and drainage. He said the width for plantings is 5' curb to

curb.

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Mr. Burris prefers: (1)a neat definition in the parking lot and (2)as much space for plantings as

MR. SALVAGE MOVED TO APPROVE THE MODIFICATION TO APPLICATION # 00-108 AS

FOLLOWS: 1)THE ELEVATION ALONG THE NORTH LINE SHOULD BE MODIFIED TO

ALLOW FOR THE PROPOSED STEPDOWN OF THE EXISITING WALL AND REMOVAL OF

THE BALANCE, 2)THAT THE NORTH CURB CAN BE MOVED NORTHWARD TO A POINT

WHERE FROM THE BACK OF THAT CURB TO BACK OF THE CURB ON THE BANK

PROPERTY IS A MINIMUM OF 5' WIDE, TO ALLOW FOR A 5' PLANTER, 3)THAT WE WILL

WANT THE BANK TO CONCUR IN WRITING, 4)THAT THE TREE THAT WILL BE LOST

WILL BE REPLACED WITH AN ASH TREE, AND 5)THAT ASH TREES WILL BE PLANTED

WHERE THE LANDSCAPE PLAN CALLS FOR REDSPIRES. MR. WILKENFELD SECONDED,

AND IT WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.

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Mr. Dorman said that change would-have to be reviewed and approved by the Tree and

Landscape Commission,but Mr. Myers said GPC could approve them, especially with his own

certification. Mr. Salvage said he believed that the Tree and Landscape Commission was a subcommission

of the Planning Commission and asked Mr. Dorman to verify that.

Work Session:

Debra Troutman,205 South Pearl St.

Mrs. Troutman brought in color samples for an exterior painting project. Most of the planned

projects are maintenance only, but the shutters created some discussion. Mr. Burriss said space is

needed between the shutters for siding to be exposed. On the first floor there is a light and the

applicants should not get too close to it. Protect the bay and picture window, but shutters probably

would not be needed there anyway. The GPC encourages shutters that look like they could close in

order to be the right scale. The window at the side entry probably should be shuttered. Windows on

the rear probably would not be shuttered. Functional shutters, in their day, would not allow trim to

show when open.

Mr. Salvage does not think GPC approval is required for the maintenance projects they have in

mind, but she should probably bring in plans for patio and shutters. Mr. Myers said they would like to

see drawings with sizes, spacing, etc.

Mr. Burriss said shutters must be to scale. Originally shutters would have been louvered rather

than paneled but we willlook at either. Panels were used earlier as a defensive system, and not every

window needs a shutter.

Certified Oil, S. Main Street

Mr. Furr reviewed discussion from the last work session: 1()lot coverage,which will stay the

same except if they shared space with IGA; 2()for signs,they proposed brick columns,which is yet to be

resolved;3 ()building desigsindin-g material will not be clapboard because it is not economically

feasible,so the building will be brick;4 ()parking has not been changed;5 ()for landscaping,low-profile

shrubs will be in front;6 ()for lighting, they want a flat lens with no glare.

Issues still to be resolved are (1)easement from IGA. They need to avoid stacking and will recurve

the lines;2 ()signage;3 ()curb cuts;4 ()traffic flowpeo-ple should not have to drive into the IGA

to get gas.

Mr. Burriss asked about the roof overhang and was told there is a 1' overhang outside the gutter.

Siding will be brick. Mr. Burriss suggested dormer-type vents across the back and front. He would like

to see the transom detail on the windows. A coping on the roof would breakup the massing and allow for

another color.

Mr. Myers asked whether there were any problems with the plans Greg Ross of IGA shared with

Certified. and there is no problem. There will be a sidewalk and lots of green space and 59%lot

coverage.

Mr. Myers asked whether a diesel pump was necessary,out in the middle by itself,and Mr. Furr

agreed to incorporate it with the other gas pumps. Certified does not want to attract semi truck traffic,

however Mr. Furr fears that a gasoline customer will get impatient while waiting for a truck to fill up with

diesel.

Regarding the canopy,Mr. Burriss stated that a good column has a base and capital, but Mr. Furr

thought that would be hard to do and they would have to work around the gutters.

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Mr.Myers summarized the discussion: 1()We want to see the plan;2 ()move diesel pump;3 () add hedge;4 ()landscaping plan; 5()eliminate curb;6 ()easement with IGA;7 ()resolve floodplain issues; 8)add decorative lighting on building M( r.Burriss)9; )s(ignage.

Finding of Fact:

MR. WILKENFELD MOVED TO APPROVE THE FINDINGS OF FACT FOR A AND B UNDER

NEW BUSINESS (Aro and Denison)AND WE FIND THEM CONSISTENT WITH RELEVANT

SECTIONS OF THE VILLAGE PLANNER'S MEMO OF APRIL 5, 2001. MR. SALVAGE

SECONDED, AND THE MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.

Adjournment: 10: 15 p.m.

Next Meetings: April 23 and May 14

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