Granville Community Calendar

GPC Minutes 7/23/2001

GRANVILLE PLANNING COMMISSION

July 23,2001 DRAFT

Minutes

Members Present: Jack Biltrriss,Barb Lucier,Keith Myers,Mark Parris,Richard Salvage, Carl

Wilkenfeld

Members Absent:None h

Also Present: Seth Dorman, Village Planner

Visitors Present: Ned Roberts, Kathryn Raker,Kathy Merkle, James Arch, Dan Spence, Douglas

Rockwell,Virginia Abbott, Frits Rizor,Jon Raymond, Brian Rapp

Citizens'Comments: None

The Chair,Keith Myers,swore in all those who planned to speak.

Minutes of July 9,2001:

Page 2, In the Ned Roberts paragraph, the pitch is 5:12.

Down 2 paragraphs: T "he rear elevation was a concern ofMr. Myers, and he felt the proposed

windows did not work well together."

Line 4 under the Mr. Waggoner paragraph: w i"ll..s.tudy removal of an interior room..."

MR. SALVAGE MOVED TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS AMENDED. MR. WILKENFELD

SECONDED, AND THE MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.

New Business:

Kathryn Raker.117 East Elm Street -Change of Use

Mr. Dorman said the application is to change the use from a beauty salon back to a medical

office. The change was made but the beauty shop never opened, so the applicant wants to change it

back to a medical office, which is its current use.

Ms. Raker said she appreciated the Planning Commission's efforts to help with the situation.

She had been told it was ok to have the new tenant move in, but was not told she would have to apply

for a change of use.

MR. WILKENFELD MOVED TO APPROVE APPLICATION # 01-086 AS PRESENTED, MR.

PARRIS SECONDED,AND THE MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.

Larry Biefeid,121 East Elm StreetO -nec-ar Garage

Mr. Dorman said the applicant is requesting a 16'x12' one-car garage. The materials and colors

will match the house. The applicant will go before the BZBA on August 9 for side and rear yard setbacks

and lot coverage variances.

Mr. Biefeld said his mother has lived in the house most of her life and would like a place to put

her car and some storage room for her gardening tools.

MR, SALVAGE MOVED TO APPROVE APPLICATION # 01-088 SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING:

1)THE COLORS TO BE USED ON THE GARAGE WILL MATCH THE HOUSE;AND ( 2)

APPROVAL IS SUBJECT TO FINAL APPROVAL OF ALL VARIANCES BY THE BZBA, MR.

PARRIS SECONDED,AND THE MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.

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The Home and Garden Shop.119 East Elm StreetS -andwich BoardandWindow Signs

Mr.Dorman stated that the applicant already has a sign in the window,and ifapproval for a

sandwich board is granted,it should be at the front door behind the planter. The window sign exceeds the

maximum allowable size for a window sign.

Mr. Parris wondered what business the sandwich board sign would bring in beyond what business

the window sign brings in,since it would be about 5'from the front door.

Kathy Merkle said that most ofthe traffic comes from the alley and people say they cannot see her

window sign. The sandwich board sign would be a one-sided sign.

Mr. Myers said that normally sandwich boards are offthe sidewalk. But here cars park right in

front ofthe store. A sandwich board's value seems marginal to him,fearing it would clutter up the

doorway. Sandwich boards are for pedestrian traffic mostly.He thought the sign in the window is good

but the signage on the building is "not terrific."Even the window sign is over code limits;all the other

signs on the building add up to excessive signage.

Mr. Salvage's concerns are that people cannot see the window sign because cars are parked in

front of it. Also,the window sign reflects sunlight and is hard to read.

Mr. Parris thought ifthe sign in the window were white,it would be more visible. He also

recommended putting the store's name on the awning instead ofa sandwich board.

Mr. Wilkenfeld thought there were too many signs on the building,but a sandwich board catches

his eye as he walks by. He asked whether one ofthe window signs could be eliminated,fearing setting a

precedent for excessive signage. Mr. Myers is comfortable with the window signs.

Mr. Burriss asked since there is a red and white o"pen"sign in the window,ifit could be removed

as soon as the applicant begins using the sandwich board sign,which will also say " open ,and Ms.

Merkle said yes.

Members applied the application to the criteria for variances:

A. That special circumstances or conditions exist which are peculiar to the land or structure( s)

involved and which are not applicable to other lands or structures in the same zoning

district.Since there are three or four tenants in the building,this situation fits the criterion.

B. That a literal interpretation of the provisions of this Zoning Ordinance would deprive the

applicants of rights commonly enjoyed by other properties in the same zoning district under

the provisions of this Ordinance. It would deprive the applicant of rights enjoyed by others.

C. That the special conditions and circumstances do not result from the actions of the applicant.

They do not result from actions of the applicant.

D. That the granting of the variance will not confer on the applicant any undue privilege that is

denied by this Ordinance to other lands or structures in the same zoning district. No undue

privilege is noted.

E. That the granting of the variance will in no other manner adversely affect the health,safety

and general welfare of the persons residing or working within the vicinity of the proposed

variance. No adverse affects are noted.

MR..SALVAGE MOVED THAT WE APPROVE VARIANCES FOR THIS APPLICATION AND

THAT VARIANCES ALLOW FOR SIGNAGE AS PRESENTED IN BOTH QUANTITY AND

SQUARE FOOTAGE,AND WE FIND THE VARIANCES CONSISTENT WITH CONDITIONS

UNDER 1147 OF THE CODE. MR WILKENFELD SECONDED,AND THE MOTION WAS

UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.

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MR. WILKENFELD MOVED TO APPROVE APPLICATION # 01-090 SUBJECT TO THE

FOLLOWING: 1 ()THE LETTERING ON THE SANDWICHBOARD WILL BE GREEN TO MATCH

THE AWNING;2 ()THE RED"OPEN"SIGNWILL BE REMOVED ONCE THEY START USING

THE SANDWICH BOARD;AND (3)THE APPLICANT IS TO PROVIDE MATERIALS TO THE

VILLAGE PLANNER FORHIS FINAL APPROVAL. MR. SALVAGE SECONDED,AND THE

MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.

Susan and Doug Rockwell, 129 West BroadwayE -xterior Renovations

Mr. Dorman explained the exterior renovations,including: 1( )Enclose side porch,and match

materials;2 ()Replace windows on south with patio doors to provide access to garden;3 ()Replace siding

on rear addition;4 ()Install patio,extending current patio; 5 ()Move 3' gate and line up with garage;6 ()

possibly remove asphalt drive and replace with sod.

Doug Rockwell said they do want to remove the asphalt The back doors will not be French

doors,but rather will be 8' sliding glass doors, 16' wide. The reason for enclosing the porch is that the

porch is in poor condition. They would like more storage space for coats.

Mr. Burriss asked about the porch floor and was told it will be replaced with pressure treated

lumber. He thought the front elevation could be improved. When you fill in a space with stucco,it gets a

little crowded. The window on the side could be centered. He has concerns about running stucco up to

existing posts. Joining stucco with wood is not always successful. He would like to see the Italianate

rhythm continued on the porch. He thinks there could be an outside window up above. He recommended

consulting with the contractor on these details. Other houses under similar situations have suffered from

rot. He likes the posts and wants to preserve them. Mr. Rockwell thought a window could be added.

They considered clapboard, but that would make it look more like something stuck on. The wall will be

flush with existing columns. Ned Roberts suggested installing a shutter ( false)window on the street side

and that would allow the applicant to still use the space for coats, etc.

Mr. Wilkenfeld noted the porch has a certain grace, which may be lacking in the new design.

Mr. Myers said everything is good but he is uncomfortable about the porch. Mr. Salvage said if he

centers the window under the window above and adds a blind window with frame that should be all right.

MR. SALVAGE MOVED TO APPROVE APPLICATION # 01-092 SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING:

1)THAT THE DESIGN OF THE ENCLOSURE OF THE SIDE PORCH BE COORDINATED WITH

MR. BURRISS,INCLUDING THE BLIND WINDOW AND THE CENTERING OF THE WINDOW

ALONG THE DRIVEWAY SIDE. MR. PARRIS SECONDED,AND THE MOTION WAS

UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.

It was added that installing landkcaping along the driveway side is optional.

Virginia and Robert Abbott,1028 NewarkG- ranville RoadF -ence and Landscaping

Mr. Dorman said the applicant wants to install a wrought iron fence with stucco columns in the

front and side yard that would connect with existing fencing. They also wish to instalilandscaping in the

front yard near the front entrance.

Virginia Abbott explained the plantings she has in mind,including a tight hedge thit can handle

harsh conditions next to the road. She described the fence design,which met with general approval.

MR. WILKENFELD MOVED TO APPROVE APPLICATION # 01-095 AS PRESENTED. MR,

PARRIS SECONDED, AND THE MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.

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Frits Rizor.326 North Pearl StreetF e-nce and Exterior Renovations

Mr. Dorman said the request is to install a picket fence to enclose the back yard,replacing the

existing chain link fence. His neighbor has agreed to the plan;2 ()Add a railing to the front porch;3 (3)

Reduce the size ofthe deck and resurface it;and 4()Add a railing to the deck.

Fritz Rizor said the width ofthe pickets would equal the space in-between.

MR. SALVAGE MOVED TO APPROVE APPLICATION0 #10-96 AND TO GIVE THE APPLICANT

THE OPTION OF GOING TO 2"SPACES ON THE FENCE. MR. PARRIS SECONDED,AND THE

MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.

BruceWestall,241 East Maple StreetS -econd Story Addition.

Mr.Dorman showed where the new bath and walk-in closet would be added to the second floor.

Ned Roberts said they are going to raise the roofover the kitchen,and the fascia will match up the gable

and tie into it with the same pitch.

MR.WILKENFELD MOVED TO APPROVE APPLICATION0 #1-097 AS PRESENTED. MR.

PARRIS SECONDED,AND THE MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.

Vincent Paumier,329 North Granger StreetB -arn Addition

Mr. Dorman said the applicant was unaware he needed a permit to demolish the shed which was

attached to the barn and has already started construction. The new addition will duplicate the footprint of

the former structure. The back and side will be enclosed but the front will have a partial opening. He will

need a variance for the rear yard setback and will go to the BZBA on August 9. The metal roofwill

match the existing barn roof,and the paint and siding will match the siding.

Brian Rapp represented the applicant,who was out of town. He did not know whether a door

would be added. The storage is for bikes and lawn equipment and cannot be seen from the street.

MR. PARRIS MOVED TO APPROVE APPLICATION0 #1-098 WITH THE FOLLOWING

CONDITIONS: 1 ()THAT THE APPLICANT BE GIVEN THE OPTION OF PUTTING A DOOR ON

THE FRONT ELEVATION OF THE STRUCTURE;2 ()WE ALSO GIVE RETROACTIVE

APPROVAL OF THE DEMOLITION AND REPLACEMENT OF THE PREVIOUS STRUCTURE;

AND ( 3)APPROVAL SUBJECT TO BZBA APPROVAL FOR THE REAR YARD SETBACK. MR.

SALVAGE SECONDED,AND THE MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.

Jon Ravmond.Village Coffee Company.132 East Broadway L Awning Sign,

Mr. Dorman said the applicant wants a red and black awning with the words " Village Coffee

Company"on the valance. He is asking for a similar smaller awning over the rear door.

MR. WILKENFELD MOVED TO APPROVE APPLICATION # 01-099 AS PRESENTED. MR.

SALVAGE SECONDED,AND THE MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.

Old Business:

Denison University, 135 NorthMain StreetM -odification to Add Roofing Materials

Mr. Dorman said tonight's concern is with roof shingles and the previously approved porch.

Mr. Parris asked whether the porch floor is a subfioor or the final floor and was told it is the final

floor. Mr. Burriss noted that when the applicant was here before we asked if there would be a traditional

porch floor and the answer was yes,but this is not traditional. He also thought that the panels should have

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a solid frame around them. He thought there was sufficient overhang to get under it and add cove

molding.

Mr. Myers asked whether there could be a 2/6 trim board over the ends,and Mr. Burriss wants to

be sure the project is both functional and visually appealing.

Mr.Myers summarized: 1 ()It's a minor modification2; ()The porch floor will be painted dark

and should match the house; 3 ()Modifications to the lattice;4 ()Modifications to the front door; 5 ()

Modification ofroofing materials;and ( 6)Applicant is to come back with color samples for the Village

Planner's approval.

Dan Spence from Denison thought a thermo-pane window would be ok. Originally the Planning

Commission approved re-shingling the small roof and replacing the slate roof Dan Spence said the

roofer started to work on it and found the slate too soft and deteriorated to be reused. They would have as

much money working on slate as we did in putting on a shingle roof. SlateLine is supposed to resemble

slate,or they could use TimberLine.

Mr. Burriss wants the color of roofto tie in with other colors.

MR. SALVAGE MOVED THAT WE FIND THIS TO BE A MINOR MODIFICATION OF

APPLICATION0 #1-045. MR. BURRISS SECONDED,AND THE MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY

APPROVED.

MR. SALVAGE MOVED TO APPROVE MODIFICATIONS TO APPLICATION0 #1-045 AS

FOLLOWS: ( 1)THE PORCH FLOOR WILL BE PAINTED A DARK COLOR TO BE APPROVED

BY THE VILLAGE PLANNER;2 ()FRONT DOORS CAN BE EITHERWOOD ORMETAL BUT rN

EITHER CASE WILL BE DESIGNED TO MATCH THE EXISTING FRONT DOOR;3 ()APPROVE

USE OF THE GAF SLATELINE SHINGLES FOR THE MAIN ROOF AND A METAL ROOF ON

THE PORCH AND BAY WINDOW,WITH COLORS TO BE APPROVED BY THE VILLAGE

PLANNER;AND ( 4)WE WANT A TRIM BOARD AROUND THE TOP AND SIDES OF THE

LATTICEWORK OF THE PORCH AND TOP OF LATTICE WORK OF PORCH WITH COLORS TO

BE APPROVED BY THE VILLAGE PLANNER. MR. WILKENFELD SECONDED,AND THE

MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED

Comments for the Good of the Order:

Mr. Salvage brought up the fact that at our last meeting we approved an awning over the ATM at

Park National Bank,but the letters are excessively big. According to the approval, sign was to be 8"x12",

but the bank rep said she wanted 8"x12"letters. Mr. Myers suggested telling her to take the letters off or

come in for a modification b(ut it's likely to be denied).

Finding of Fact: MR. SALVAGE MOVED TO APPROVE THE FINDINGS OF FACT FOR A

THROUGH I UNDER NEW BUSINESS AND A UNDER OLD BUSINESS,AND WE FIND THEM

CONSISTENT WITH RELEVANT SECTIONS OF THE VILLAGE PLANNER'S MEMO OF JULY

19,2001. MR. PARRIS SECONDED,AND THE MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.

Adjournment: 9:25 p.m.

Next Meeting: August 27, 2001. Three members would have to be absent on August 13.

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