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Planning Minutes 8/9/04

GRANVILLE PLANNING COMMISSION
August 9, 2004
Minutes

Members Present:   Jack Burriss, Tom Mitchell, Jackie O'Keefe, Tim Riffle
Members Absent:  Mark Parris (Chair),  Carl Wilkenfeld (Vice Chair)
Visitors Present:  Barb Hammond, Richard Salvage, Kim Salvage, Dick Daly, Tim Hughes, Cindy Griesse, Kent Morgan, Jim Siegel, Chris and Sherry Campbell, Tod Darfus, Tom from Meleca, David Meleca
Also Present:  Chris Strayer, Village Planner
The Chair swore in all those who planned to speak.
Citizens Comments:  Barbara Hammond stated that signage is needed at corners to direct people to retail shops on side streets, and she wants some signs up within three months.  It would benefit the shops and eliminate sandwich signs.    She volunteered her help with this project.  It was decided to have some casual discussion following the meeting.
Minutes of July 26, 2004:   Minutes were postponed until the next meeting.

New Business:

Tim Hughes, 142 East Broadway - wall sign

 Mr. Strayer said the applicant wishes two signs for his new business: (1) wall sign over the awning and (2) wall sign on the side.  The size of the existing sign will not change, but words will change to new company name, "Keller Williams Greater Columbus Realty."  It will be dark red background with gray lettering.  There was some discussion on who has rightful lease on that building, and Mr. Hughes said he has the proper documents to give him rightful leasehold. He leases verbally from Dave Klauder and has four months left on the current lease.  Coldwell Barker bought the building and will take possession September 1, so Mr. Hughes needs permission for his new sign.  They will put up a new, color-coordinated awning later.  When they paint the sign, they will repaint the borders.  The (2) wall sign on the side will be a panel covering the words.
 
     MR. RIFFLE  MOVED TO APPROVE 04-107 AS SUBMITTED.  MR. MITCHELL SECONDED, AND MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.

Chris Campbell, 215 North Pearl Street - Fence

Mr. Strayer said all criteria are met for this application for a fence along north side of driveway from garage to the house and to install a fence along west and north sides of lot.  Mr. Campbell said they will eventually fence in the entire property and the treatment along the drive will be the same as in the picture-a privacy fence in the back along the garage. It stops there and does not turn the corner.  It will be the same as in the north property line. There will be no fence in the front; there is landscaping there and a retaining wall. 

MR. MITCHELL MOVED TO APPROVE #04-109 AS SUBMITTED.  MR. RIFFLE SECONDED, AND MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.

Tod Darfus, 132 N. Prospect St. - Change of Use
 Mr. Strayer said the applicant is requesting a change of use from restaurant to an upscale 4-bed tanning salon.  Ms. O'Keefe asked about utilities and Mr. Darfus said he has everything on board for licensing and electricity as well as insurance.

MR. RIFFLE MOVED TO APPROVE 04-110 AS SUBMITTED. MR. MITCHELL SECONDED, AND MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.

St, Edwards Catholic Church, 785 Newark-Granville Road - sign

 The application is for a new 48 sq.ft. ground sign to be illuminated by floodlights.  The representative said it will be the same limestone base and cap as the church.  Lettering is to be solid brass and letters with lights on either side.  He was under the impression the sign maximum was the area enclosing the letters, rather than the entire structure.  It will be in the same location as the existing sign.
 Mr. Burriss asked about landscaping, and Mr. Meleca said they have nothing formal yet. Mr. Burriss added that in other applications the lighting has been hidden in landscaping, and Mr. Meleca said they will be adding subtle planting.    The new sign will be 8" wider than the existing but the same height.  Text is smaller.
 Ms. O'Keefe asked if the old sign frame could be compared at all to the new frame.
 Mr. Strayer said that for free-standing signs we have used the entire sign, not just the portion with letters.  The only exception is a post sign underneath a hanging sign.
 From the audience Richard Salvage said in similar situations for other churches and schools the GPC found it appropriate to grant larger signs, in view of the larger buildings.  In the case of such precedent, he would recommend approving this sign. 

 Mr. Burriss read the criteria for variances, and it appeared that No. E. would be appropriate:

D.  That the granting of the variance will in no other manner adversely affect the health, safety and general welfare of the persons residing or working within the vicinity of the proposed variance.

He thinks the new sign is more attractive and more in keeping with the signage we have encouraged within the village.  It will be more subtle and going away from being internally lit. It is architecturally consistent and complementary with the new church being built.

MR. RIFFLE MOVED TO APPROVE 04-111 AS SUBMITTED.  MR. MITCHELL SECONDED, AND MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.

Barbara Hammond, 115 North Prospect St. - Awning

 Mr. Strayer said this application matches the sign application we approved
at the last meeting.
 Ms. Hammond said it will be a plain purple awning, matching color of the sign.  It will be just over the door and cover the A.C. unit and offer protection for walkers.

MR. MITCHELL MOVED TO APPROVE 04-115 FOR AWNING AS SUBMITTED.  MR. RIFFLE SECONDED, AND MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.

Kim Salvage, 130 North Prospect Street - Change of Use

 Ms. Salvage wants to open a knitting shop in the space where the bookstore was.  She said her product will use natural fibers, and she will teach knitting classes.

MR. RIFFLE MOVED TO APPROVE 04-121 FOR CHANGE OF USE.  MR. MITCHELL SECONDED, AND MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED

Kim Salvage, 130 North Prospect Street - Signs
 
 Ms. Salvage also wishes signage for the abovementioned application.  She wants (1) a wall sign, (2) a projecting sign, and (3) a sidewalk sign. The projecting sign will be on the corner of the building, rather than at the storefront and will have two chains hanging from a wrought iron bracket.  The wood signs will be pale cream with dark red text.  The sidewalk sign will be taken in at day's end. Tod Darfus, the landlord has no problem with the project.

MR. MITCHELL MOVED TO APPROVE SIGNAGE FOR 04-118 AS SUMITTED.  MR. RIFFLE SECONDED, AND MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.

Kent Morgan, 228 N. Pearl Street - Porch

 Mr. Strayer said the application is for construction of a front porch over the existing concrete patio. 
 Mr. Morgan added that he wants to add some design element to the front.
 Ms. O'Keefe asked if the old sign frame could be compared at all to the new frame.
Mr. Riffle asked whether the overhang on the porch will cover the windows, and Mr. Morgan stated it will stop above the window and be below the lower window.  There may be a trim piece along bottom and top and there may be a railing on the porch.
Mr. Burriss asked about the dimensions and was told the front to corner goes off at a 45º angle and they will hold the posts as close to that as possible.  When asked about lighting fixtures, Mr. Morgan said the light would not be visible from the street.
They will try to get the same porch roof pitch as the house, and any railing would be attached to the wood siding.
Mr. Burriss is comfortable with the concept but less comfortable with the railings.  One thought might be to pass this with final details to be submitted to the Village Planner.  North Pearl contains a number of significant houses, and we have worked hard to maintain that.  When something is submitted to us to be built, we need to have it tied down as much as possible in detail for the permanent record.  Overhangs on roof, scale of posts, relationship of posts to existing porch and how far they are inset are some details missing. 

MR. MITCHELL MOVED TO APPROVE 04-117 FOR PORCH CONSTRUCTION CONTINGENT UPON SATISFYING THE VILLAGE PLANNER WITH DETAILS INCLUDING (1) SCALE OF POSTS, (2) SIDE RAILINGS, (3) ROOF PITCH AND OVERHANG WIDTH OF PORCH AND WHERE THEY INTERSECT WITH THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE, CONSIDERING WINDOW LOCATION.  MR. RIFFLE SECONDED, AND MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.
 
Finding of Fact:  MR. RIFFLE  MOVED TO APPPROVE THE FINDINGS OF FACT FOR ITEMS A THROUGH H UNDER NEW BUSINESS, AND WE FIND THEM CONSISTENT WITH THE RELEVANT SECTIONS OF THE ZONING CODE AS OUTLINED IN THE VILLAGE PLANNER'S MEMO OF AUGUST 5, 2004.  MR. MITCHELL  SECONDED, AND THE MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.

Work Session:

Opera House Park Gazebo

 Norm Engle and Dick Daly made a proposal to V.C. about the possibility of Kiwanis's placing a gazebo in the park for the Bicentennial, and they requested we come before GPC for advice regarding appropriateness of this structure.  Mr. Strayer added that V.C. wanted our thoughts on concept as a legacy from Kiwanis and scale and design option.

 Ms. O'Keefe asked about their timeline, and Mr. Engle thought this fall would be best or next spring.  They have not appropriated money yet. 
 Mr. Burriss had hoped for such a structure for a long time, and this would be historically appropriate, but his concerns were not about concept so much as that we get a tasteful structure.  He likes the ones in Bellville and Newark because they are elevated for dignity and presence.  But Mr. Daly said they did not want to give GPC any predisposed ideas.  Mr. Engle said this would be an open space rather than with seating.

 Jim Siegel had opposing opinions.  He worked on the original design, which was for greenspace to be used by various groups and churches.  A gazebo would destroy the ambiance and openness of the park.  Utilities are underground.  He has been caretaker of the park since it began and made a lot of improvements.  A gazebo is a nice gift but this is the wrong place.  Also, it would require much maintenance.
 Ms. O'Keefe asked whether Kiwanis has gotten feedback from others, and Mr. Engle said they have not sought feedback yet.
 Mr. Burriss asked whether a fountain was requested, and the answer was No. 
 Mr. Siegel had proposed a vets' memorial with flagpole, since there is no veterans' recognition in Granville.  The trees in the southeast are dedicated memorial trees, and putting a gazebo in the southwest would involve removal of several trees and having to redo the sidewalks.
 Ms. O'Keefe asked about a work of art.
 Mr. Daly said the last thing we need is something that would cause friction.
 Mr. Burriss asked about using the bell. It could be used for special occasions, and could be elevated with an arch underneath.  He asked whether a proposal could go ahead in theory and then get public input and was told Yes.
 Mr. Burriss likes the gazebo idea but feels the need to explore the various user groups and learn whether it would actually be used.  He suggested contacting the Village Beautification Society and the Recreational Commission. 
 Mr. Riffle thought that done correctly it can only enhance the park, but put it farther back  to allow openness in the front.
 Mr. Burriss asked what is going on in St. Luke's back yard, for at one time that was a nice little garden.  Could the gazebo straddle it and not eat up open space. 
 Mr. Burriss suggested placing the gazebo in front of Stone Hall to replace the Concert on the Green stage. 
 Mr. Strayer will talk to some of the users of the park about how they feel about the idea.
 
Discussion on Signs:

 In regard to the signs suggested by Barbara Hammond earlier, Mr. Burriss asked who would pay for such signs?  He would like one for his business too, farther out on Route 16.  He is not in favor of more sandwich boards and suggested little signs on chains hanging from lampposts.  Signs now are too high and don't help the merchants very much.  Put them lower and they interfere with traffic and pedestrians.  At the Elms they have a nice sign.  Could we come up with a bracket on corners of buildings? He suggested maps listing all businesses to be given away freely.   Our businesses cannot survive with local clientele; we are becoming more and more a destination town, and we need to offer visitors help finding businesses. 
 Mr. Strayer reminded the group that plans for a kiosk are underway for Alltel Park.  We have the informational signs now, and with sandwich boards, signs are everywhere. 
 Could the Chamber of Commerce negotiate removal of sandwich boards in exchange for a way-finding sign?  Ms. O'Keefe thought it was up to them to suggest a proposal.  But Mr. Strayer said they are looking at us to do it and give them suggestions. 
 Mr. Mitchell suggested getting a proposal from Rodger Kessler, and consensus agreed. 
 Mr. Burriss said the sign code would have to be rewritten. We do not allow off-premises signs now. Would we allow them to have logos?   He would like to schedule a work session with the Chamber of Commerce at our next meeting.   
 Mr. Mitchell wants to severely restrict sandwich boards.

Next Meetings:    August 23 and September 6 (Labor Day)
Adjournment:    9:20 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Betty Allen Hullinger

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