GRANVILLE PLANNING COMMISSION
November 14, 2005
Members Present: Jack Burriss (Vice Chair), Tim Riffle (Chair), Jackie O'Keefe, Carl Wilkenfeld, and Tym Tyler
Members Absent: Tom Mitchell
Visitors Present: Sharon Sellito, Lee & Kathy Cecil, Renie Baker, Jeff Clark, Kim Kopral, Jim Silone, Bob Kent, Jamie Smith, Dave Ulritz, Ron Jones, David Thomas, ,Alyssa Lowry, Mike Oll, Innocent Wodzisz, Jim Ogden, Barbara Franks, Dan Rogers, Carl Strauss, Dr. and Mrs. Mark Law, Brian & Dana Krieg, Gil Krone, Omar Whisman, Kent & Marilyn Petoker
Also Present: Chris Strayer, Village Planner
The Chair swore in all those who planned to speak
Citizens Comments: none
Minutes of October 24: MR. WILKENFELD MOVED TO APPROVE MINUTES AS PRESENTED. MR. TYLER SECONDED, AND MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.
Dave White, 204 South Main - Sign
The application was tabled at the last meeting pending further information.
MR. WILKENFELD MOVED TO TAKE THE APPLICATION OFF THE TABLE. MR. TYLER SECONDED, AND MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.
As presented, this request for a second free-standing sign would need a variance for a second sign.
In answer to a question by Mr. Tyler about the post, Mr. White said it would be similar to the other, which is an old sign. The old sign had a variance for two signs at one time. His request is for a 4.8 sq.ft. wood sign with white background and blue and green lettering.
Mr. Wilkenfeld thought a way should be found to put the sign on the post already there, and Mr. White said the post is old and frail and the sign hangs from a chain, so some modification would be required. He wondered whether he would have to re-apply.
Mr. Tyler said we could approve this with the provision that the Village Planner give final approval. Mr. Wilkenfeld said it is OK to put in the new post and put the old sign and the White's new sign on the new post. We are trying to limit the number of signs. Mr. White noted that he might want a sidewalk sign later.
Mr. Burriss said typically we like to have the graphics framed with a border, which is consistent with other signs and seems more finished.
MR. WILKENFELD MOVED TO APPROVE WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS: (1) ERECT A NEW POST FOR THE NEW SIGN AND THE OLD SIGN; (2) THE OLD POST IS TO BE TAKEN DOWN; (3) POSTS ARE TO BE THE SAME SIZE AS REMOVED SIGN; (4) ADD A BORDER; (5) VILLAGE PLANNER TO GIVE FINAL APPROVAL TO THE POST. MR. TYLER SECONDED, AND MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.
Dan Rogers, 210 East Maple Street - Fence
MR. WILKENFELD MOVED TO TAKE THE APPLICATION OFF THE TABLE. MR. TYLER SECONDED, AND MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.
Mr. Strayer said the application is for a fence which will be the same style of fence as already on the property but it will only be 42" high across the front instead of 72": He showed pictures of the yard and aerial photos. It is an in-ground concrete spa with a cover.
Mr. Tyler noted that tonight we are simply looking at the enclosure, and we need to see exactly where the fence will be located.
Barbara Franks reviewed his history of the square footage and the distances between spa and property line.
Mr. Riffle is still concerned about privacy issues, but it falls within the code. Sharon Sellito wanted to speak, but the Chair said we will not take public comments because we have been over this so many times previously. This is a public meeting but not a public hearing.
MR. WILKENFELD MOVED TO APPROVE THE REQUEST FOR FENCE WITH THE FOLLOWING STIPULATIONS: (1) THE FENCE IS TO BE PUT IN THE GROUND BEFORE THE SPA GOES IN; (2) THE VILLAGE PLANNER TO GRANT FINAL APPROVAL; (3) SPA WILL BE 10'X10'; (4) SPA WITH APRON IS 14'X14'; (5) A 2' APRON WILL BE AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THE SPA; (5) EDGE OF GRASS IS 10' FROM THE REAR FENCE AND WEST SIDE FENCE; (6) FENCE ON WEST SIDE COMES OFF SOUTHERNMOST POST ON WEST SIDE; (7) FENCE ON EAST COMES OFF THE EAST SIDE OF THE HOUSE. MR. TYLER SECONDED, AND MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.
Twig, 454 S. Main Street - Sign
Mr. Strayer said the applicant is not here, but the 6 sq.ft. blue and white wall sign will be upgraded with changed text and border.
MR. TYLER MOVED TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION AS PRESENTED. MR. BURRISS SECONDED, AND MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.
Innocent Wodzisz, Sidewalk Sign
To identify a photography business above Bank One, the applicant wishes an orange, black, and silver plastic sidewalk sign. In the application, it is the photo on the left side and will be 25" x 45". Mr. Burriss reminded him the sign is to be outside only during business hours.
MR. TYLER MOVED TO APPROVE APPLICATION AS SUBMITTED. MR. WILKENFELD SECONDED, AND MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.
Granville Mill, 400 South Main Street - Sign
Mr. Strayer said in March we approved a temporary sidewalk sign for six months, and now they would like to extend that for another 6 months
MR. WILKENFELD MOVED TO APPROVE APPLICATION AS SUBMITTED. MR. TYLER SECONDED AND MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.
Granville Golf Course Co., Trinity Court - Preliminary Plat
Mr. Strayer said the applicant is presenting an introductory preliminary plat for a subdivision of 32 units to come off Trinity Court. We are still awaiting reports from department heads and Village Engineer and Traffic Engineer. It is a total of 36 acres, of which 32 acres are buildable land with 3 acres for reserve and right of way. Trinity Court is extended to serve as access point. When Wexford was approved, there was an easement put in, which is for this proposal.
Ms. O'Keefe wanted to know what kind of houses will be built and was told by Mr. Kent that they will be like the Bryn Du Woods homes, $500,000-600,000 homes.
The woman who is president of the Residents Association at Bryn Du said they have concerns about the density and the amount of traffic to be generated. What Mr. Kent proposal is denser than what we have here. Lots average less than one acre, and most of the existing houses have two acres or more.
Ms. O'Keefe wanted to know plans for future access. Jeff Clark, Engineer for Mr. Kent, explained where it would be. It is a steep slope so they followed the ridge. There will be a stub there for emergency vehicles.
Mr. Strayer said this would be 32 units over 30 acres and would require a variance from the one-per-acre rule. If the reserve area were to be given to the village, that would have to be subtracted. If the Residents Association kept the reserve, it would not be included in the density total because it will not be deeded to the village.
Mr. Clark said the lots with sewer are smaller. The sewer will extend up further.
The engineer said they have talked about how traffic comes off Trinity Court. It's a three-way intersection and will remain and there will be an island with grass median. They could not put in a roundabout. The traffic review will concentrate on Wexford/Jones intersection.
Carl Strauss stated that the pond is his, and the way they have set this up, there is a drainage going across his yard, which holds septic and leach bed. Those things need to be taken into account. He thinks drainage should go into the storm. He also wants an easement for access to his 15 acres. The engineer said they can definitely look at these items. There is a large ridge, a ravine, and a wooded area, so the natural lay of the land will be followed. He showed the group how the drainage would course down the hill.
Gil Krone said the extension is said to be an easement, but the original 1983- approved development showed differently. It is a 200' access for future access. The developer who created the plat reserves his intention to use that for access. In order to create an effective dedication for a roadway, there has to be a present intent, which should have occurred in 1983. There has never been any change in the developer's intent in regard to making it a dedicated easement. Mr. Strayer will talk to the Law Director about this. Mr. Krone said there is a three-acre wetland, and he explained where water runs into the area.
Jim Ogden's concern is with the access also. The access to the property from the south was discounted much too quickly. Mr. Strayer said they will look at this. There are considerable elevation problems. We don't want to make public roadways that are so severe as to be undrivable, but we need more than one access into the subdivision.
Warren Whisman has lived in Erinwood 19 years, and several times he has almost been rear-ended on Jones. He requested a time-study on the traffic study. Mr. Tyler noted that there will be a lot of traffic at Bryn Du Mansion.
MR. TYLER MOVED TO TABLE THE APPLICATION PENDING FURTHER INFORMATION. MR. WILKENFELD SECONDED, AND IT WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED
Village Baker, 212 South Main Street - Sign
Mr. Strayer said the new baker wants a new sign with changeable letters, which is not allowed in the village. Because of other signs in the village with messages that change, this is not considered a temporary sign.
Tom Wenway (?) said his goal is to promote community activities. The current sign is a stagnant sign, and they want to invite customers to attend activities and eat goodies. Mr. Strayer said we permit blackboard or erase marker boards but none with changeable letters.
Mr. Tyler wants to get creative and come up with something not quite as commercial looking, something with consistent fonts.
Mr. Burris said it took a long time to get the original sign the way we wanted it. Could we work for something with The Village Baker at the top and four lines of smaller type below? We want to be consistent throughout the village, and we want the sign to look like it belongs there.
Jim Kopral, owner, said they are looking for something with driver impact.
Mr. Riffle would be more in favor of changeable information below the top saying "The Village Baker." He wants the applicants to have what they want while at the same time keeping it consistent with other village signs.
MR. TYLER MOVED TO TABLE APPLICATION WITH THE PROVISION THAT THE FOLKS AT VILLAGE BAKER WORK WITH MR. STRAYER IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS TO DESIGN A MORE SUITABLE SIGN. MR. STRAYER WILL EMAIL THE COMMITTEE. MR. WILKENFELD SECONDED, AND MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.
Brian Kreig, 226 East Maple - Addition
Mr. Kreig noted they received a variance from BZBA and they refined the elevation according to GPC's recommendations.
Mr. Burris expressed his appreciation and thanks for Mr. Kreig's patience in dealing with the application.
Mr. Kreig said it would be wood-sided in the back and front. They are debating shingle vs. standing seam metal. Wood windows, standard 4" trim. They want to match what's there now. New windows will be 2 over 2 for the renovated porch.
MR. TYLER MOVED TO APPROVE WITH CONDITION: (1) UPPER EAST WINDOWS TO BE 2 OVER 2. MR. WILKENFELD SECONDED AND MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.
Fifth Third Bank, Cherry Valley Road.
They want to build a bank at the SuperAmerica site, with three drive-throughs. It would be a neutral color, with shutters and wood trim of a taupe color. Asphalt shingles, weathered wood-look on dimensional shingles.
Mr. Burris said they heed a landscape plan. He wants more architectural detail rather than more glass and a nicer or paneled door. We need a sign package, sidewalk plan, and lighting plan. Speedway needs to provide a temporary plan to ODOT, and then it goes to Village Council. Mr. Wilkenfeld said SuperAmerica would have right-in only. Mr. Strayer said the interchange is not certain yet. If Cherry Valley is an up-and-over, it would make Fifth Third Bank's location difficult. Not knowing what ODOT wants to do scares him.
The woman representative said there will be ground-mounted signs with poles and under-canopy lighting. Trash will be privately picked up.
Mr. Strayer requested Fifth Third to contact District V at ODOT about their plans before going further.
Finding of Fact: MR. WILKENFELD MOVED TO APPROVE THE FINDINGS FOR ITEMS A and B UNDER OLD BUSINESS AND ITEMS A,B,C,F UNDER NEW BUSINESS, AND WE FIND THEM CONSISTENT WITH THE RELEVANT SECTIONS OF THE ZONING CODE AS OUTLINED IN THE VILLAGE PLANNER'S MEMO OF NOVEMBER 14, 2005. MR. TYLER SECONDED, AND MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.
Next Meetings: November 28 and December 19