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Planning Minutes 8/22/05

GRANVILLE PLANNING COMMISSION
August 22, 2005
Minutes

Members Present :), Tom Mitchell, Tym Tyler, Tim Riffle (Chair), Carl Wilkenfeld, Lyn Robertson (for Village Council)
 Members Absent:  Jack Burriss (Vice Chair)
 Visitors Present:  Gloria Hoover, Bill Heim, Bill Ryan, Barbara Franks, Dan Rogers, Mark Gearhart, Mark Compton, Sharon Sellitto, Sarah Wallace, Stewart Dyke, Paul Thompson, Fred Ashbaugh, John Cassell,  Ray Paprocki, Robert C. King, Lisa McKivergin, Lauren Pearson, Julio Valenzuela, JoAnn Morey, Bernie Dew, Deborah Jardine, Art Chonko, Kevin Reiner, Seth Patton
 Also Present: Chris Strayer, Village Planner

The Chair swore in all those who planned to speak.

Citizens Comments:  none

Minutes of August 8:  MR. MITCHELL MOVED TO APPROVE MINUTES AS DISTRIBUTED.  MR. TYLER SECONDED, AND MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.

Minutes of July 11: MR. TYLER MOVED TO APPROVE MINUTES AS DISTRIBUTED.  MR. WILKENFELD SECONDED, AND MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED

Old Business:
First Federal Savings, 209 East College St. Fence

{Mr. Riffle recused himself from consideration of this application and Mr. Wilkenfeld led the meeting.}
 The applicant wishes to (1) erect a black aluminum fence along the rear property line and to (2) enclose the dumpster with vinyl fencing and gate.  The color will match overhang of the Darfus building.
 John Compton, V.P. from First Federal, said the reason for the request is an agreement that First Federal had with Unizan to remove a tree along the southern property line which was growing over the First Federal in exchange for a fence as barrier.  Jim Siegel had granted permission to remove the tree. (2) They also wanted a barrier around the dumpster with a gate.
 Gloria Hoover movingly presented the concerns of the neighbors on College Street when and if the house First Federal owns is torn down for a parking lot. This is a neighborhood community village vs. a corporation.  The alley was a fire alley with access to neighborhood garages, and Chuck Kinsey bulldozed the garage.  The Village declared the alley legally vacated.   The proposed fence would close access through the alleyway.  Mrs. Hoover is adamant against having a parking lot next door.  She feels that people can easily park near the bank on the street. 
 Debby Jardine said the neighborhood is a wonderful ambiance of trees and she is strongly opposed to a fence
 There was a question as to who owns the alleyway and if it was legally vacated. Mr. Wilkenfeld would like the Law Director to research the matter and bring us an answer.  Mr. Mitchell thought that since a question exists, we need to review the past history of the area.  Mr. Strayer said the application is for the property line behind the white house.
 Mr. Compton said the easement is not affected by the record.  They are only talking about the southern line and whether or not there are other easements would have no bearing on their fence. He noted there are other fences along there and theirs is more "see-through" and ornamental.
  Mr. Strayer said it would be at the very edge of the easement and would not restrict traffic.
 Mark Gearhart, from Unizan, said they wanted the fence because the area was in bad shape.  People park on their lot and go to the other buildings, and they are trying to protect their parking spaces.
 Even though Lisa McKivergin is for preservation, she said this spot cannot be maintained with dignity and the next best thing is to go ahead and do what needs to be done.
 Deborah Jardin asked whether the intent for the fence is to keep cars out.
 Mr. Mitchell thought that since there are objections and since there is a question on the easement, more research should be done. 
Mr. Strayer says the tax maps do not show an easement along there.  He would have to get the map from the county, but it does not seem to be an easement there.  It seems to have been vacated.  An easement would not restrict any movement through the area.  People can walk parallel to the fence. 
Mr. Tyler said there are two private property owners who want the fence  and desire not going any farther onto anyone  else's property.   He reminded the group that First Federal has agreed to put in a fence to appease Unizan's wish to keep people off Unizan's property if they have no business with the bank.
Mr. Wilkenfeld said it's a nice fence and they are doing it in good faith, but if there are issues not being addressed, he wants that as a condition.
 John Cassell has two lots there and has heard nothing about maintenance of the fence, the fence on the rear line of his property was installed by the neighbor and it is being torn down and he has done nothing about it.  That would happen to this fence as well.  {He was told First Federal would maintain it.}

MR. MITCHELL MOVED TO APPROVE WITH THE CONDITION THAT THE VILLAGE PLANNER CONSULT WITH THE VILLAGE ATTORNEY AND DETERMINE FOR CERTAIN THAT THERE IS NO PUBLIC ACCESS BEING AFFECTED BY THIS FENCE. MR. TYLER SECONDED, AND MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.
Dan Rogers - 210 East Maple Street - Patio

 Mr. Strayer said we have a revised version, and we have letters from some neighbors opposed (Sharon Sellitto and Bernarditto Llanos) to the plans.  BZBA did approve a variance for 56% lot coverage, which was reduced from 67%.  They strongly recommended that some kind of screening or privacy be included in the application.  The fence is not included in this application.  Jack Burris told Mr. Strayer he was concerned about the viewshed from the roadway, 
 Barbara Franks explained that the reduction in lot coverage came about because originally there was going to be a patio but now it's just a spa.  The planter boxes will match the driveway. The spa is in the back of the property.  Someone suggested a wrought iron fence, but she does not think that is necessary.  Since they have extended the fence forward, this would tie into it.  When asked whether it would be visible to the neighbors, she said it's a 6' fence and it would be visible from the second story.  Water next door drains onto their property.
 Mr. Strayer said they still need to meet with the Service Director to be sure water does not drain onto this property.
 Ms. Franks repeated some of the difficulties she has had with the neighbors over water drainage and other issues.
 Mr. Riffle noted that we have no information on the spa. And Mr. Wilkenfeld is concerned about objections from neighbors.
 Sharon Sellitto read from 1161.02 about stylistically preserving the structures (a spa does not); contributing to the historical character (a spa does not); contributing to the continuing vitality (it makes neighboring lots harder to rent or buy).  She requests this vista be eliminated.  She recommends building the spa in the Rogers ample garage.
 Ms. Franks said you couldn't see anything until Ms. Sellitto cut down the trees (including hers).
 Mr. Riffle brought the discussion back to the application.
 Lisa McKivergin, who owns lots near there, thinks there is a way to make everything work.  There's merit to what Sharon Sellitto says, and to have a spa or hottub with proper screening might work.  Wrought iron does not screen.  She would have no objection to their having a spa.
Mr. Tyler asked in the AROD where are there other hottubs and pools?  He was told there are at least two pools (enclosed). 
 Mr. Wilkenfeld noted we have no drawings or pictures of how it will look.
 Mr. Tyler said there should be a way for neighbors to sort this out, but what will happen is that eventually there will be issues coming up later if we approve it as it is now.  He wants to know how the Rogers will prevent neighbors' complaints, and Barbara Franks said it has to be visible from the second floor next door. 
 Mr. Riffle said (1) we don't really have an accurate representation of how this would go together; (2) information is missing that would help us make decisions; (3) we don't know what the planter looks like; (4) we need to talk about privacy issues from the perspective of the neighbors; and (5) we don't know anything about the spa and whether it is permanent.
 Mr. Franks said it is a permanent structure and below ground.  She will take pictures of their driveway.  It's a 10x10 spa with a 2' patio around it.    She wants to look at other spas in town.
 Mr. Wilkenfeld stated that we approve what goes into the ground and we have to be specific:  what materials?  How far from the property line, etc.?

MR. TYLER MOVED TO TABLE THE APPLICATION PENDING RECEIPT OF MORE DETAILS ON THE SPA.  MR. MITCHELL SECONDED, AND MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.

Julio Valenzuela - Remodeling

 The applicant wishes to remove the siding, scrape, prime, and repaint the exterior and he will replace any damage uncovered.  He will also restore the roof, which will be slate colored asphalt; maybe the porch roof will be copper.  They will take out the rear steps and return the house to a single family dwelling.  They will strip the paint off the columns.

MR. TYLER MOVED TO APPROVE 05-123.  MR. WILKENFELD SECONDED, AND MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.

Lisa McKivergin, 224 East College Street -Remodeling
 Mr. Strayer said that after extensive repair, they wish to turn the five-apartment building into four condos.  He talked to the Law Director and found it a nonconforming use now.  It will still be nonconforming, and the property will have a property association though the condos will be owned by the owners. 
 Ms. McKivergin said the carriage house will be of board and batten and will harmonize with the house.  There will be new windows more in proportion to the front of the house.  They started ripping off the siding to see what they had and it will need lots of patching but it's in pretty good shape.    There will be three condos in front and one in back.
 Mr. Mitchell asked about the 6 over 6 windows, and discussion ensued about all the different types of windows.  Mr. Riffle thought the 6 over 6 gives it a character that makes that part of the house stand out.    Ms. McKivergin said there is a variety but they will harmonize.  The trim will match, and the siding will match too. 
 Mr. Riffle would like to see the most effort put into the central area.  With the roof renovation, try to make the renovation as close to the original as possible with the other pieces added on.  As long as the central part is historically accurate, it's not as important for the ells.  Do 6 over 6 in the center and let the3 other pieces do what they want to do.  Let it all be honest.
Mr. Riffle added that we can approve with the condition that the applicant bring us a drawing of what it will look like.  The 6' fence will be OK. 
MR. TYLER MOVED TO APPROVE 05-127 WITH THE PROVISIONS THAT (1) WE WILL HAVE A REVISED DRAWING OF THE WINDOWS ON THE FRONT AND THEY WILL BE REVIEWED BY MR. STRAYER, MR. TYLER, AND MR. BURRISS; (2) APPROVAL OF FENCE DESIGN AS PRESENTED TO US TONIGHT WITH THE PROVISION THAT MR. STRAYER WILL APPROVE THE PLANS.  MR. MITCHELL SECONDED, AND MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.
Unizan Bank, 222 East Broadway - Drive Through 
 Bill Ryan, contractor, said the reason for the new drive-through is to keep up with new technology.  The new ATM is larger and requires a larger enclosure.  There will be no modification of the concrete, and the color will be Unizan blue.  It is back-lit and the lights point to the building.
MR. WILKENFELD MOVED TO APPROVE 05-133 FOR NEW ATM WITH THE STIPULATION THAT THE COLOR OF THE NEW ATM WILL BE OF UNIZAN BLUE.  MR. MITCHELL SECONDED AND MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.
Work Session:
Kevin Reiner, 540 W. Broadway - Modification
 After having received approval for a greenhouse, Mr. Reiner wants to change from a greenhouse to an addition to the house for a family room and dining area on the back of the house.    The footprint will become a little smaller. 
Consensus of the group liked the plan
Denison University - Renovation
 Art Chonko introduced Jack Potter, architect, who provided plans for the conceptual, but doable, renovation as a gateway to campus.  There will be a potential studio above the power plant.  There will be a public gallery and improved access uphill. There's potential for pedestrian mall on College Street as a central gathering place with the street closed off from cars between Mulberry and Plum for most of the year.  They will put in an elevator. The copper finish exterior will turn green.  Outdoor area will have space for music and performance. Room for ceramics and kiln is planned.  The new additions are separated by glass ceiling and walls, which will create a different look at night for artists and will show like a beacon.  They will make a new entrance.  They will need to do fund-raising.
 Mr. Wilkenfeld liked the plans, and Mr. Mitchell recommends they consult with the Fire Department about access.  Mr. Potter wants to make it safe with access from this road and this driveway.
Finding of Fact:  MR. TYLER MOVED TO APPROVE THE FINDINGS FOR ITEM A UNDER OLD BUSINESS AND ITEMS A,B,C UNDER NEW BUSINESS,  AND WE FIND THEM CONSISTENT WITH THE RELEVANT SECTIONS OF THE ZONING CODE AS OUTLINED IN THE VILLAGE PLANNER'S MEMO OF AUGUST 22, 2005.  MR. WILKENFELD SECONDED, AND MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.
Adjournment:  9:44 p.m.
Next Meetings:  September 12 and September 26
Respectfully submitted,
Betty Hullinger

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